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Trollzyn the Infinite
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:41 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I think he blocked me as well. I just reply anyway. He will see via anybody else quoting, out of curiosity and even justification for blocking :D

I have a solution for all my fellow nation persons, don't block any persons you strongly disagree with on Trump, the elections or any issues, for any reasons, do like I do. GMS.


When Trumpers start putting facts before personal feelings, half-assed conspiracy theories, incoherent rambling, authoritarian apologism, and partisan propaganda then maybe I'll consider unblocking you, Aureum, GHK, and all the rest. Alas, you're so content being willfully ignorant hypocrites that worship a nepotistic, narcissistic, pathologically lying, treasonous, incompetent, sociopathic, cryptofascist criminal caudillo and pedophilic rapist who robbed America blind while leaving Americans to die that I seriously doubt that will happen but who knows maybe you'll surprise me and wash your hands of America's worst president.

But I won't hold my breath.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:44 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I have a solution for all my fellow nation persons, don't block any persons you strongly disagree with on Trump, the elections or any issues, for any reasons, do like I do. GMS.


When Trumpers start putting facts before personal feelings, half-assed conspiracy theories, incoherent rambling, authoritarian apologism, and partisan propaganda then maybe I'll consider unblocking you, Aureum, GHK, and all the rest. Alas, you're so content being willfully ignorant hypocrites that worship a nepotistic, narcissistic, pathologically lying, treasonous, incompetent, sociopathic, cryptofascist criminal caudillo and pedophilic rapist who robbed America blind while leaving Americans to die that I seriously doubt that will happen but who knows maybe you'll surprise me and wash your hands of America's worst president.

But I won't hold my breath.

I respect your rights to all your opinions above, while strongly disagreeing with them, it is called Democracy. This respect is given it is not earned. GMS.
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Postby Sundiata » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:47 pm

GMS, sometimes people just aren't going to like you, agree with you, or even want to talk to you. That's fine, just do what you can to forgive and move on. You can't change everyone's mind even if you're right about a subject.
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Trollzyn the Infinite
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:49 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
When Trumpers start putting facts before personal feelings, half-assed conspiracy theories, incoherent rambling, authoritarian apologism, and partisan propaganda then maybe I'll consider unblocking you, Aureum, GHK, and all the rest. Alas, you're so content being willfully ignorant hypocrites that worship a nepotistic, narcissistic, pathologically lying, treasonous, incompetent, sociopathic, cryptofascist criminal caudillo and pedophilic rapist who robbed America blind while leaving Americans to die that I seriously doubt that will happen but who knows maybe you'll surprise me and wash your hands of America's worst president.

But I won't hold my breath.

I respect your rights to all your opinions above, while strongly disagreeing with them, it is called Democracy. This respect is given it is not earned. GMS.


When the day comes that you learn that opinions based on feelings are not equal to those based on fact and thus should not be respected, then and only then will you earn my respect.

Until then you're blocked, bucko.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:59 pm

Jesus Christ, here we go again...
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Postby Sundiata » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:01 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Jesus Christ, here we go again...

How do you feel about the American political situation?
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Postby Nakena » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:03 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Jesus Christ, here we go again...


Texas GOP has threatened secession from the Union.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:03 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Jesus Christ, here we go again...

I strongly agree, here we go again, oh well is not my problem. I respect his rights to his opinions. GMS.
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Postby Sundiata » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:04 pm

Nakena wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Jesus Christ, here we go again...


Texas GOP has threatened secession from the Union.

That isn't remotely American.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:07 pm

Sundiata wrote:

That isn't remotely American.

Of course, its literally secession from America, how is it supposed to be American?
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Postby Uiiop » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:13 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Jesus Christ, here we go again...

How do you feel about the American political situation?

It seems the dems leadership are either delusional or are praying for a miracle.

Granted they just might get it if this "Destroy the GOP for betraying trump" Bit picks up steams and holds thru nov 2022 but i'd rather be pleasantly surprised seeing that than holding on to a improbable hope.
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:14 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Jesus Christ, here we go again...

How do you feel about the American political situation?


Actually, what CTOAN said above is a quite accurate depiction of how most of us feel about it.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:14 pm

Sundiata wrote:

That isn't remotely American.


America started with secession from their rightful ruler King George III.

But that is a topic for another thread.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:17 pm

Nakena wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Jesus Christ, here we go again...


Texas GOP has threatened secession from the Union.

They’ve done some sort of ramble about seceding so often it has it’s own wiki page. Including Rick Perry floating the idea as governor at one point. It’s the same shit they always say when they don’t get their way. We already covered this like a page or two ago.
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Postby Sundiata » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:19 pm

Nakena wrote:
Sundiata wrote:That isn't remotely American.


America started with secession from their rightful ruler King George III.

But that is a topic for another thread.

Well, not necessarily.
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Postby Omniabstracta » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:20 pm

Nakena wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Jesus Christ, here we go again...


Texas GOP has threatened secession from the Union.

Mm, possible legislation to allow the possibility of a non-binding referendum to possibly do something illegal.

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Postby Untecna » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:32 pm

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Mm, possible legislation to allow the possibility of a non-binding referendum to possibly do something illegal.

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If they do, at least they already have an embassy to the US!

but it's so illegal

they would probably be destroyed

in a war i mean

yay
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:33 pm

Nakena wrote:
Sundiata wrote:That isn't remotely American.


America started with secession from their rightful ruler King George III.

But that is a topic for another thread.

Great point :D

The Confederacy including Texas seceded from the USA during the civil war.

Many nations have done so from other nations in different ways for many reasons. GMS.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:40 pm

Untecna wrote:
Omniabstracta wrote:Mm, possible legislation to allow the possibility of a non-binding referendum to possibly do something illegal.

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If they do, at least they already have an embassy to the US!

but it's so illegal

they would probably be destroyed

in a war i mean

yay

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Postby Untecna » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:42 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Untecna wrote:If they do, at least they already have an embassy to the US!

but it's so illegal

they would probably be destroyed

in a war i mean

yay

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:52 pm

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San Lumen wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trump-eyeing-florida-as-place-to-start-political-career-2020-12

Ivanka Trump is eying Florida to start a political career. She might run for Governor or Senate.

Fuck. No.


Meh. Let her.

She has shown she like her father is rather incompetent at the job.

If Florida wants her; they deserve the misery she will bring.

Having said that; New York has rejected her. Florida in time will learn to do the same........well.......maybe......
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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:53 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
When Trumpers start putting facts before personal feelings, half-assed conspiracy theories, incoherent rambling, authoritarian apologism, and partisan propaganda then maybe I'll consider unblocking you, Aureum, GHK, and all the rest. Alas, you're so content being willfully ignorant hypocrites that worship a nepotistic, narcissistic, pathologically lying, treasonous, incompetent, sociopathic, cryptofascist criminal caudillo and pedophilic rapist who robbed America blind while leaving Americans to die that I seriously doubt that will happen but who knows maybe you'll surprise me and wash your hands of America's worst president.

But I won't hold my breath.

I respect your rights to all your opinions above, while strongly disagreeing with them, it is called Democracy. This respect is given it is not earned. GMS.

What is the definition of an opinion and what is the definition of a fact?

You ran away last time this was asked, so come on, get to it, you've had plenty of time to figure out.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:53 pm

New haven america wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I respect your rights to all your opinions above, while strongly disagreeing with them, it is called Democracy. This respect is given it is not earned. GMS.

What is the definition of an opinion and what is the definition of a fact?

You ran away last time this was asked, so come on, get to it, you've had plenty of time to figure out.


He won’t answer it because he can’t tell the difference.
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Postby Ranoria » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:43 pm

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/le ... rb-obesity

Anyone have an opinion on this? Honestly looking back I totally think Michelle Obama was onto something here, but I wasn't old enough to know much at the time. I honestly like the idea of additional taxes on soda and fruit juice in theory but it also conflicts with my free market mentality. :p

Just figured I'd see what you all think about it. I'll also note that the way obesity is determined is a simple factor of weight and height (BMI), and I think we should perhaps use something like FFMI, or fat free mass index, instead.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:43 pm

Untecna wrote:
Genivaria wrote:'Lives in San Antonio'
Haha I'm in danger.

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Please no, San Antonio is leftist.

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