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The Black Forrest
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:28 pm

Kowani wrote:Unfortunately, GHK has me blocked, so I can’t respond to his bs.
But if someone could tell him that the court didn’t start at 9 justices for me, that would be wonderful.

Anyway, Bill Barr us under fire again.


I think he blocked me as well. I just reply anyway. He will see via anybody else quoting, out of curiosity and even justification for blocking :D
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:36 pm

Kowani wrote:Unfortunately, GHK has me blocked, so I can’t respond to his bs.
But if someone could tell him that the court didn’t start at 9 justices for me, that would be wonderful.

Anyway, Bill Barr us under fire again.


I thought that was Bill Burr for a second, and my hands were about to be rated E for everyone.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:14 pm

Awww Trump fails again in Wisconsin.

Judge dismissed the suit for “ finding that the president’s arguments “fail as a matter of law and fact.””

Of course Rudy is saying he is not finished. Go Rudy go. Keep destroying your image.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... -wisconsin

So what is Trumps record now? 3-60something?

Can’t people start suing the trump organization over harassment lawsuits?
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:17 pm

I hope that the electoral college voters are being protected.
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Kexholm Karelia
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:19 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kowani wrote:unfortunately, yes


well, some "verifieds" (parler version of blue checkmarks) are calling for the outright destruction of the GOP, lots of hot air for civil war, the entire SCOTUS is a deep state plant, some people claiming that the entire texas lawsuit was a distraction, and Qanon is back in full force

I hope they do destroy the party as they say and launch a primary challenge of every incumbent.

Usually I would agree but the two party system makes it so that a split wing means the opposition wins
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:20 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I hope they do destroy the party as they say and launch a primary challenge of every incumbent.

Usually I would agree but the two party system makes it so that a split wing means the opposition wins


do primary challengers then

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:22 pm

Neutraligon wrote:I hope that the electoral college voters are being protected.


Same here. There will be death threats and harassment if the names are leaked.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:22 pm

Neutraligon wrote:I hope that the electoral college voters are being protected.

Are their identities public record? :blink:

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:23 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I hope that the electoral college voters are being protected.

Are their identities public record? :blink:


Yes. The list is on Wikipedia.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:25 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I hope that the electoral college voters are being protected.

Are their identities public record? :blink:

Yes
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Postby Kowani » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:32 pm

Neutraligon wrote:I hope that the electoral college voters are being protected.

In Michigan, yes.

I didn’t bother checking all the other states. :p
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:33 pm

Kowani wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I hope that the electoral college voters are being protected.

In Michigan, yes.

I didn’t bother checking all the other states. :p


here is the list for every state: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2 ... l_electors

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Postby Kowani » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:36 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kowani wrote:In Michigan, yes.

I didn’t bother checking all the other states. :p


here is the list for every state: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2 ... l_electors

…I was talking about if they got police protection or not. I don’t particularly care for their identities outside of a few odd cases.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby San Lumen » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:37 pm

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
here is the list for every state: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2 ... l_electors

…I was talking about if they got police protection or not. I don’t particularly care for their identities outside of a few odd cases.

I hope they do

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Postby Xanthal » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:08 pm

This one hasn't been prominent in the national news, but the Red House standoff is a big deal locally. Lots to unpack, but I'm posting it here mainly because I think it's a fascinating example of how the extreme right and extreme left are in many ways on the same page in the US right now when it comes to "your law doesn't apply to me." The main difference seems to be which laws they want to ignore and for whom.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_House ... on_defense
https://www.koin.com/news/protests/long ... ily-armed/
https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-red ... ontroversy
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/202 ... wists.html
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:13 pm

https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka- ... er-2020-12

Ivanka Trump is eying Florida to start a political career. She might run for Governor or Senate.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:20 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trump-eyeing-florida-as-place-to-start-political-career-2020-12

Ivanka Trump is eying Florida to start a political career. She might run for Governor or Senate.

Fuck. No.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:21 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trump-eyeing-florida-as-place-to-start-political-career-2020-12

Ivanka Trump is eying Florida to start a political career. She might run for Governor or Senate.

Fuck. No.

Heck Yes Awesome. GMS.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:24 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Fuck. No.

Heck Yes Awesome. GMS.

Oh there you are. You have been awfully silent about recent events by Republicans and Trump
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:25 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trump-eyeing-florida-as-place-to-start-political-career-2020-12

Ivanka Trump is eying Florida to start a political career. She might run for Governor or Senate.

Fuck. No.

I mean if you had to pick a cesspool where a Trump would belong I guess Florida would be it.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:26 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Fuck. No.

Heck Yes Awesome. GMS.

I now have this link for my posts records:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trump-eyeing-florida-as-place-to-start-political-career-2020-12


Any thoughts on the Supreme Court's actions? Do you accept Trump lost and there was no widespread fraud?

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:28 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Heck Yes Awesome. GMS.

I now have this link for my posts records:


Any thoughts on the Supreme Court's actions? Do you accept Trump lost and there was no widespread fraud?

To S L: I already answered your question on Republican President Trump in great details a few times; GMS.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:29 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Any thoughts on the Supreme Court's actions? Do you accept Trump lost and there was no widespread fraud?

To S L: I already answered your question on Republican President Trump in great details a few times; GMS.


Not on their most recent actions.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:33 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kowani wrote:Unfortunately, GHK has me blocked, so I can’t respond to his bs.
But if someone could tell him that the court didn’t start at 9 justices for me, that would be wonderful.

Anyway, Bill Barr us under fire again.


I think he blocked me as well. I just reply anyway. He will see via anybody else quoting, out of curiosity and even justification for blocking :D

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:37 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Fuck. No.

I mean if you had to pick a cesspool where a Trump would belong I guess Florida would be it.

As a Proud Floridian, Miamian, Republican and Trump Supporter this is an insult, :) lol. But nothing insults me on NS anyway, I have learned that the hard way on NS. GMS.
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