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Postby Untecna » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 am

Somehow still arguing in the WA since 2020.
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The Caleshan Valkyrie
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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 am

Sahravana wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So if 53 people being arrested for trying to overturn a free and fair election is tyranny, what does that make 280 people being arrested in one night for protesting against police brutality?

that was antifa


If so, so the fuck what?
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 am

Sahravana wrote:the blacks acted like victims just because a few of them got shot... how is this less significant


1) That's an idiotic mischaracterization
2) Unless getting fired is worse than getting shot it is manifestly less significant.
3) If you think somebody shit their pants, whether or not you're right, it doesn't make it okay to shit your pants.

Did someone formulate your stances for you? These are not things people should say after their old enough to achieve political consciousness.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:FB and Insta have blocked Trump for the rest of his term.


Good, but Facebook still needs to be broken up.


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Postby Heloin » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 am

Sahravana wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:You are so desperate to be a victim its laughable.

the blacks acted like victims just because a few of them got shot... how is this less significant

I wonder who's puppet you are.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 am

Corindia wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:I’m expecting a lot of far right political violence to be a long lasting part of Trump’s legacy.

pretty much, living in a red state I'm going to need a plan in case trump supporters start to look up voter registrations and target the addresses of people who aren't republican. It's not like the cops will help.

We may be looking at a 1980s Spain situation where Trumpists pull a stunt once in a while.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:11 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Sahravana wrote:that's what they said about samuel jackson and the sons of liberty


Do you mean Samuel Adams?

The first amendment protects you from the government interfering in your speech, it does not protect your from others reacting to your speech. Now I'll agree that it is improper for businesses to fire their employees for peacefully protesting, but saying they shouldn't fire people who break the law is taking it a bit far.


I can't lie, I suddenly pictured Mace Windu fighting redcoats.
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Postby Corindia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:11 am

Sahravana wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:You are so desperate to be a victim its laughable.

the blacks acted like victims just because a few of them got shot... how is this less significant

Being shot all the time for doing nothing does in fact make them victims

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Postby Rusozak » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:11 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Do you mean Samuel Adams?

The first amendment protects you from the government interfering in your speech, it does not protect your from others reacting to your speech. Now I'll agree that it is improper for businesses to fire their employees for peacefully protesting, but saying they shouldn't fire people who break the law is taking it a bit far.


I can't lie, I suddenly pictured Mace Windu fighting redcoats.


I would watch that.
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Postby Page » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:12 am

Corindia wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:I’m expecting a lot of far right political violence to be a long lasting part of Trump’s legacy.

pretty much, living in a red state I'm going to need a plan in case trump supporters start to look up voter registrations and target the addresses of people who aren't republican. It's not like the cops will help.


That's ridiculous! Of course the cops will help, they will plant weapons on the bodies of the victims so the killers can claim self-defense.
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Postby Untecna » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:12 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Do you mean Samuel Adams?

The first amendment protects you from the government interfering in your speech, it does not protect your from others reacting to your speech. Now I'll agree that it is improper for businesses to fire their employees for peacefully protesting, but saying they shouldn't fire people who break the law is taking it a bit far.


I can't lie, I suddenly pictured Mace Windu fighting redcoats.

Me too
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Postby Asherahan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:12 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Sahravana wrote:pretty soon being conservative will be considered "a serious crime"


So in your mind if someone wearing a MAGA hat killed and ate a baby on camera, firing would be an attack on free speech?

That is stupid level whataboutism.

I prefer to in cases like Sahravana I much prefer the "Yeah Get ready for the Gulag Approach."
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Myrensis
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Postby Myrensis » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:13 am

Have to say I'm a bit amused by all these Republicans suddenly feigning shock and outrage at the discovery that Donald Trump is...the same Donald Trump he has been for his entire life, both of his campaigns, and his entire Presidency.

"I am appalled that Donald Trump would behave in such a Donald Trump like fashion!"

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The Caleshan Valkyrie
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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:13 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Do you mean Samuel Adams?

The first amendment protects you from the government interfering in your speech, it does not protect your from others reacting to your speech. Now I'll agree that it is improper for businesses to fire their employees for peacefully protesting, but saying they shouldn't fire people who break the law is taking it a bit far.


I can't lie, I suddenly pictured Mace Windu fighting redcoats.


I just remembered the Chapelle Show parody about Samuel Jackson Lager.

”NO I CAN’T STOP YELLING, CUZ THAT’S HOW I TALK!”
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Sahravana
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Postby Sahravana » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:14 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Do you mean Samuel Adams?

The first amendment protects you from the government interfering in your speech, it does not protect your from others reacting to your speech. Now I'll agree that it is improper for businesses to fire their employees for peacefully protesting, but saying they shouldn't fire people who break the law is taking it a bit far.


I can't lie, I suddenly pictured Mace Windu fighting redcoats.

Like the other socialist leftist radicals, I see that since you could not address my logical argument you attacked a spelling error instead. Hint: that means that you lost the argument

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Corindia
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Postby Corindia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:14 am

Myrensis wrote:Have to say I'm a bit amused by all these Republicans suddenly feigning shock and outrage at the discovery that Donald Trump is...the same Donald Trump he has been for his entire life, both of his campaigns, and his entire Presidency.

"I am appalled that Donald Trump would behave in such a Donald Trump like fashion!"

Yeah the collective surprised pikachu reaction has been kind of funny. At least we found that they do in fact have a limit, I assumed they'd be going with him all the way.

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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:14 am

Sahravana wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:You are so desperate to be a victim its laughable.

the blacks acted like victims just because a few of them got shot... how is this less significant

First of all, as I’ve told the kids in my school, stop saying “the blacks”.
And secondly, a conservative isn’t shot every 29 hours. 1 out of 1000 conservatives aren’t going to get shot by police. Conservatives haven’t been profiled for centuries for being conservative, and aren’t incarcerated at higher rates for crimes they didn’t commit than liberals. Conservatives aren’t not having an opioid epidemic simply because doctors look at them and refuse to give them painkillers because they assume they’ll just sell them.
You are NOT a victim. Accept it.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:15 am

Sahravana wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
I can't lie, I suddenly pictured Mace Windu fighting redcoats.

Like the other socialist leftist radicals, I see that since you could not address my logical argument you attacked a spelling error instead. Hint: that means that you lost the argument

You find what happened yesterday acceptable conduct?

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Postby Heloin » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:15 am

Sahravana wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
I can't lie, I suddenly pictured Mace Windu fighting redcoats.

Like the other socialist leftist radicals, I see that since you could not address my logical argument you attacked a spelling error instead. Hint: that means that you lost the argument

Accusing Emerald of all people of being a radical socialist is fucking hilarious.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:15 am

Sahravana wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
I can't lie, I suddenly pictured Mace Windu fighting redcoats.

Like the other socialist leftist radicals, I see that since you could not address my logical argument you attacked a spelling error instead. Hint: that means that you lost the argument


.... What?
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Untecna
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Postby Untecna » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:16 am

Sahravana wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
I can't lie, I suddenly pictured Mace Windu fighting redcoats.

Like the other socialist leftist radicals, I see that since you could not address my logical argument you attacked a spelling error instead. Hint: that means that you lost the argument

Sahr, I appreciate your contribution the the thread, but you need to stfu. All you are doing is getting yourself closer to being reported.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:16 am

San Lumen wrote:
Sahravana wrote:Like the other socialist leftist radicals, I see that since you could not address my logical argument you attacked a spelling error instead. Hint: that means that you lost the argument

You find what happened yesterday acceptable conduct?


Lumen he is transparently a puppet.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:16 am

Corindia wrote:pretty much, living in a red state I'm going to need a plan in case trump supporters start to look up voter registrations and target the addresses of people who aren't republican. It's not like the cops will help.


I am telling everybody who expresses concern to arm themselves. I don't think it's going to get to mass public violence but if I'm going to surprised I'm going to have a rifle and a high capacity magazine.
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Postby Page » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:16 am

Corindia wrote:
Myrensis wrote:Have to say I'm a bit amused by all these Republicans suddenly feigning shock and outrage at the discovery that Donald Trump is...the same Donald Trump he has been for his entire life, both of his campaigns, and his entire Presidency.

"I am appalled that Donald Trump would behave in such a Donald Trump like fashion!"

Yeah the collective surprised pikachu reaction has been kind of funny. At least we found that they do in fact have a limit, I assumed they'd be going with him all the way.


It's really more of a weathervane than a limit. It's not that they wouldn't endorse what happened if it was politically popular, but they know it's not. Not yet, anyway. The normalization of fascism is a slow march.
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:17 am

Myrensis wrote:Have to say I'm a bit amused by all these Republicans suddenly feigning shock and outrage at the discovery that Donald Trump is...the same Donald Trump he has been for his entire life, both of his campaigns, and his entire Presidency.

"I am appalled that Donald Trump would behave in such a Donald Trump like fashion!"


And all it took was their personal safety being threatened by the ravenous mob they've helped him create for the past 4 years.
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