American Politics I: It's All Applesauce

[Hirota]

Well I'm talking about America. Yes, the rest of the world has dealt with stuff like this since the beginning of time .

Then it should be reassuring to discover that the rest of the world has dealt with it perfectly fine, and I'm sure the US will continue the long tradition the rest of the planet has established in overcoming adversity, right?

[The Emerald Legion]

You mean the thing that wasn't a coup and you're being disengenuous about?

It was a coup plain and simple.

You have still yet to answer what is the alleged system you want abolished to let cities die.

Making a thread because that's a fucking big subject.

[Major-Tom]

Virginia might not be the best litmus test, since like Colorado, it has solidified itself as a generally blue state as opposed to a battleground. Either way, we'll see, the Parler Crowd has made more than a few murmurs about starting a third party. They won't get much outside funding or assistance, but it could be a legitimate far-right grassroots movement that could even win in a few states (see Wyoming, Idaho, the Dakotas etc).

Virginia is a good test as it mirrors the country demographically.

Let them start the third party. A split in the Republican party would help Democrats.

Seeing as Trump left office w 90% GOP support, it is safe to assume it would destroy the GOP and leave an even more radical party in its' place that'll have us libs smiling over Mitch McConnell in the same way libs now smile over Romney.

I, frankly, don't want to see it. What happens if they win the Governorship of even one state? It'll be a nightmare.

[San Lumen]

Virginia is a good test as it mirrors the country demographically.

Let them start the third party. A split in the Republican party would help Democrats.

Seeing as Trump left office w 90% GOP support, it is safe to assume it would destroy the GOP and leave an even more radical party in its' place that'll have us libs smiling over Mitch McConnell in the same way libs now smile over Romney.

I, frankly, don't want to see it. What happens if they win the Governorship of even one state? It'll be a nightmare.

Its plausible they could however in many other places splitting the vote would help Democrats.

[Vassenor]

So a rioter who claimed to have been maced was photographed rubbing her eyes with an onion half hidden in her towel.

[Kexholm Karelia]

There was tear gas and smoke grenades going off, mass arrests happened outside

And one woman, Ashli Babbitt, was shot dead by security forces. The SJW Left is suddenly so supportive of the police when the rioters are on the other side. As I say in response to all police killings, #AllLivesMatter.

I agree, the BLM ACAB crowd is showing their true colors now

[Major-Tom]

Seeing as Trump left office w 90% GOP support, it is safe to assume it would destroy the GOP and leave an even more radical party in its' place that'll have us libs smiling over Mitch McConnell in the same way libs now smile over Romney.

I, frankly, don't want to see it. What happens if they win the Governorship of even one state? It'll be a nightmare.

Its plausible they could however in many other places splitting the vote would help Democrats.

In most cases, yes, but politics isn't a zero sum game. If a truly radicalized, let's call it a "Patriot Party" takes off, which I'm beginning to think it will, it will cause a lot of hurt and a lot of suffering. I don't care to see that just because it'll help my own party and my own career.

[Vassenor]

And one woman, Ashli Babbitt, was shot dead by security forces. The SJW Left is suddenly so supportive of the police when the rioters are on the other side. As I say in response to all police killings, #AllLivesMatter.

I agree, the BLM ACAB crowd is showing their true colors now

And what true colours would those be?

[Salus Maior]

What you think Trump is gonna decree emergency powers to himself?

Is he that megalomaniac?

Considering he just conceded the election, I think we're overthinking things.

[Major-Tom]

And one woman, Ashli Babbitt, was shot dead by security forces. The SJW Left is suddenly so supportive of the police when the rioters are on the other side. As I say in response to all police killings, #AllLivesMatter.

I agree, the BLM ACAB crowd is showing their true colors now

It's been one fucking day, can't you wait a few more to shove the narrative back down everyone's throats like an Italian grandmother who doesn't listen to you when you say you're full?

[The Alma Mater]

In light hearted fake news, Mexico has announced that they have agreed to pay for Trumps borderwall.
In addition, Canada wants one too.

[Major-Tom]

What you think Trump is gonna decree emergency powers to himself?

Is he that megalomaniac?

Considering he just conceded the election, I think we're overthinking things.

This too. Apart from some 120 shitheads in the House and only 6 in the Senate, he hardly has any allies left. His cabinet is finally done etc etc. Trump may pave the path for someone even more deranged to take his place.

[The Alma Mater]

And one woman, Ashli Babbitt, was shot dead by security forces. The SJW Left is suddenly so supportive of the police when the rioters are on the other side. As I say in response to all police killings, #AllLivesMatter.

I agree, the BLM ACAB crowd is showing their true colors now

To be fair, the woman in question has argued often and loudly that BLM protesters should be killed.

[San Lumen]

Its plausible they could however in many other places splitting the vote would help Democrats.

In most cases, yes, but politics isn't a zero sum game. If a truly radicalized, let's call it a "Patriot Party" takes off, which I'm beginning to think it will, it will cause a lot of hurt and a lot of suffering. I don't care to see that just because it'll help my own party and my own career.

Don’t misunderstand. I agree with you. A Qanon person getting into statewide office would be a terrible thing.

The chances of a split of the party seems to be growing by the hour.

[Spirit of Hope]

What you think Trump is gonna decree emergency powers to himself?

Is he that megalomaniac?

Considering he just conceded the election, I think we're overthinking things.

Where has Trump conceded the election? Last I saw he was still claiming it was rigged, but saying he would do a peaceful transfer on the 20th.

[Salus Maior]

I agree, the BLM ACAB crowd is showing their true colors now

To be fair, the woman in question has argued often and loudly that BLM protesters should be killed.

Isn't this sort of justification on par with "but he was a drug dealer/abused his kids/etc."?

Just because they're a shitty person doesn't justify being being shot while unarmed.

[The Alma Mater]

Its plausible they could however in many other places splitting the vote would help Democrats.

In most cases, yes, but politics isn't a zero sum game. If a truly radicalized, let's call it a "Patriot Party" takes off, which I'm beginning to think it will, it will cause a lot of hurt and a lot of suffering. I don't care to see that just because it'll help my own party and my own career.

I genuinely wonder how people that wave a confederate battle flag think they are "patriots".

[The Blaatschapen]

Considering he just conceded the election, I think we're overthinking things.

This too. Apart from some 120 shitheads in the House and only 6 in the Senate, he hardly has any allies left. His cabinet is finally done etc etc. Trump may pave the path for someone even more deranged to take his place.

Fine, alright.

I'll do it *sigh*

[Major-Tom]

In most cases, yes, but politics isn't a zero sum game. If a truly radicalized, let's call it a "Patriot Party" takes off, which I'm beginning to think it will, it will cause a lot of hurt and a lot of suffering. I don't care to see that just because it'll help my own party and my own career.

I genuinely wonder how people that wave a confederate battle flag think they are "patriots".

Patriots of their own reality, their own idea of what America is? I dunno, really.

[Omniabstracta]

Considering he just conceded the election, I think we're overthinking things.

Where has Trump conceded the election? Last I saw he was still claiming it was rigged, but saying he would do a peaceful transfer on the 20th.

“I didn’t lose! I’m simply, uhh, not going to be President!”

[The Alma Mater]

To be fair, the woman in question has argued often and loudly that BLM protesters should be killed.

Isn't this sort of justification on par with "but he was a drug dealer/abused his kids/etc."?

Just because they're a shitty person doesn't justify being being shot while unarmed.

Not entirely. It was her personal belief that the death penalty was an appropiate punishment for what she did.
I personally respect that.

But yes. It would have been better if she were still alive and redeemable.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

For all my denunciations of Trump and his violent, hardcore supporters, I still don't consider them to be literal fascists or white supremacists. Just a bunch of badly-dressed 1776 QAnon LARPers as some have suggested. Trump is more of a run-of-the-mill, wannabe corrupt dictator devoid of ideology than any kind of actual fascist or communist demagogue unlike Hitler or Stalin. He's a narcissistic demagogue, but he's no fascist.

He has far more in common with Najib Razak, our beloved former Prime Minister of Malaysia who we miraculously voted out of office along with the corrupt, racist, ruling party of over 60 years due to record-high voter turnout in the face of actual, widespread, systematic election fraud and gerrymandering and a slew of newly-passed, draconian laws specifically designed to quash political dissent and silence any discussion of the 1MDB corruption scandal he was implicated in.

I'm still right about one thing. American democracy continues to endure despite the coup attempt. May American exceptionalism prevail for the next 10,000 years.

[Valrifell]

You mean the thing that wasn't a coup and you're being disengenuous about?

I mean, when a guy repeatedly tells his supporters that he won, repeatedly tries to stop the incoming administration from being certified, and tells his supporters to descend on the capitol, what are we supposed to call it?

A little fucky wucky mishapperino at the Capitol? Give me a break.

...

I will now be referring to yesterdays events as a little fucky wucky mishapperino at the Capitol.

[Vassenor]

To be fair, the woman in question has argued often and loudly that BLM protesters should be killed.

Isn't this sort of justification on par with "but he was a drug dealer/abused his kids/etc."?

Just because they're a shitty person doesn't justify being being shot while unarmed.

Who's justified the shooting?

And most of the "BLM / ACAB hypocrisy" has been "why don't you treat our protests with the same kid gloves you used here".

[Ifreann]

Must be weird to be so convinced of Trump's genius that you feel you have to invent new motivations for his failed coup.

You mean the thing that wasn't a coup and you're being disengenuous about?

Maybe you're convincing yourself with these pathetic lies, I doubt it but it's possible, but you must be aware at this point that you're not convincing anyone else.