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Esheaun Stroakuss
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:00 am



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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:00 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:The fault of the Civil was the South wanting to keep slaves so much that the began firing on Fort Sumter.

Which Buchanan helped get going.

If Buchanan had actually tried he could have prevented the civil war, he didn’t. Instead he inflamed things.

I’m not saying Buchanan isn’t at all responsible for a rise in tensions that were existent up till Lincoln inauguration. I AM saying he didn’t fire the cannons at the South Carolina fort.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:01 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
This is why fascism is a death cult.

I am not using the f word flippantly, btw. What Trump advocated for, and what his supporters attempted, is basically fascism.
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The Emerald Legion
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:01 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:The real unifying power of the European Union will create the world of the future. America will have to get used to it whether it wants to or not.


I do hope the EU can at least replace the United States for some time as a global leader, but even the EU must decline someday.


The EU doesn't have the military power to do so.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:01 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Which was the correct course of action.


If you're part of a fascist cult who wants to destroy america, I guess that would seem like the right idea. Because that really seems to be what corporate America has become.

Asherahan wrote:Yeah if you watched his video of himself asking his supporters to please be calm and leave then you would understand the fucking insincerity and lies he spewed in less than 1 minute.


You see insincerity because you want to see insincerity.


1. There is a fascist cult. It's the MAGA movement.

2. Trump has been the pinnacle of insincerity for all his professional life. Why should we believe him when he wants to avoid being 25th'd?
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:04 am

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:04 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
If you're part of a fascist cult who wants to destroy america, I guess that would seem like the right idea. Because that really seems to be what corporate America has become.



You see insincerity because you want to see insincerity.


1. There is a fascist cult. It's the MAGA movement.

2. Trump has been the pinnacle of insincerity for all his professional life. Why should we believe him when he wants to avoid being 25th'd?


0.5 out of 2. Good job.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:04 am

FB and Insta have blocked Trump for the rest of his term.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:04 am

Thermodolia wrote:Facebook has permanently banned Trump


How easy it is to take a brave stand with two weeks left and little possibility of consequences.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:05 am

Fartsniffage wrote:FB and Insta have blocked Trump for the rest of his term.


Good, but Facebook still needs to be broken up.
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Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:05 am

Thermodolia wrote:Facebook has permanently banned Trump


His platforms are going the way of the GOP it seems

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:05 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
1. There is a fascist cult. It's the MAGA movement.

2. Trump has been the pinnacle of insincerity for all his professional life. Why should we believe him when he wants to avoid being 25th'd?


0.5 out of 2. Good job.


"The REAL fascist cult is antifa guys"
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:05 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
1. There is a fascist cult. It's the MAGA movement.

2. Trump has been the pinnacle of insincerity for all his professional life. Why should we believe him when he wants to avoid being 25th'd?


0.5 out of 2. Good job.


Enlighten me, what do I need to do to gain 1.5 extra points according to your arbitrary rating systems?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:06 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
1. There is a fascist cult. It's the MAGA movement.

2. Trump has been the pinnacle of insincerity for all his professional life. Why should we believe him when he wants to avoid being 25th'd?


0.5 out of 2. Good job.

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:06 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:FB and Insta have blocked Trump for the rest of his term.


Good, but Facebook still needs to be broken up.


Never forgetti that social media platforms have been the biggest Trump enablers since 2016.

Granted some of them have improved somewhat, but the overall problem of rampant misinformation and manipulative bad actors remain.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:07 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Which was the correct course of action.


If you're part of a fascist cult who wants to destroy america, I guess that would seem like the right idea. Because that really seems to be what corporate America has become.

Fucking what? The video was very obviously going to be taken by Trump's people as supportive of their actions. Did you not watch it?
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I'll tell you where the real road lies: between your ears, behind your eyes. That is the path to paradise, likewise the road to ruin.

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The Emerald Legion
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:08 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
0.5 out of 2. Good job.


Enlighten me, what do I need to do to gain 1.5 extra points according to your arbitrary rating systems?


Be right on the rest of your two points.

You were half right on your second statement because admittedly he is a scheming asshole. While I don't think in this particular instance this was some kind of scheme because I'm not taken in by the nonsensical propaganda and alarmism about it, you do have a point that he's not an especially trustworthy person.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:08 am

Valrifell wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
0.5 out of 2. Good job.


"The REAL fascist cult is antifa guys"


Those pesky Cultural Marxists!
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:08 am

Thermodolia wrote:Facebook has permanently banned Trump

But Mark, why now, why not eight years ago?
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You've got a lonesome road to walk, and it ain't along the railroad track, and it ain't along the black-top tar you walked a hundred times before.
I'll tell you where the real road lies: between your ears, behind your eyes. That is the path to paradise, likewise the road to ruin.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:09 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
If you're part of a fascist cult who wants to destroy america, I guess that would seem like the right idea. Because that really seems to be what corporate America has become.

Fucking what? The video was very obviously going to be taken by Trump's people as supportive of their actions. Did you not watch it?


He sounded like a parent talking a child down from a tantrum. "Look, I know you're upset. But we need peace. Go home."
"23.The unwise man is awake all night, and ponders everything over; when morning comes he is weary in mind, and all is a burden as ever." - Havamal

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:10 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
0.5 out of 2. Good job.

How's life in the Führerbunker?

Trump is literally hitler

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:10 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
1. There is a fascist cult. It's the MAGA movement.

2. Trump has been the pinnacle of insincerity for all his professional life. Why should we believe him when he wants to avoid being 25th'd?


0.5 out of 2. Good job.


Nah I'd give it a 3. He's totally correct.
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Postby Asherahan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:10 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Which was the correct course of action.


If you're part of a fascist cult who wants to destroy america, I guess that would seem like the right idea. Because that really seems to be what corporate America has become.

Asherahan wrote:Yeah if you watched his video of himself asking his supporters to please be calm and leave then you would understand the fucking insincerity and lies he spewed in less than 1 minute.


You see insincerity because you want to see insincerity.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:10 am

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:How's life in the Führerbunker?

Trump is literally hitler

Everyone drink


You must not be living in the same universe as us. Cause we just saw Trump try to launch a coup.
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The Emerald Legion
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:11 am

Valrifell wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
0.5 out of 2. Good job.


"The REAL fascist cult is antifa guys"


No, Antifa are just the brownshirts. The DNC is the fascist cult, as evidenced by most of their beliefs being indistinguishable from the NSDAP, aside from who they think is pure and who they think is impure.
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