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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:42 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
San Lumen wrote:It’s a miracle a member of congress wasn’t injured or killed. This could have easily been much worse.


This failed simply because Trump and the fans who rushed the capitol aren't very smart. Their tactics for the attempted coup were limited to "run as fast as you can into the capitol building and break shit," and there was no plan after that.

Most likely they all expected that Trump would send them military reinforcements.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:42 am

I am so glad to see that, for some, the mask has finally come off. For others, the emperor was always naked.

Donald Trump is a conman, a snake oil salesman, an anti-intellectual demagogue who somehow is able to convince his followers to attempt a terrorist coup. Worst than that, he's proud of it. Throughout his whole life, he is a swindling cheat who has no consistent moral values, a grifter of the highest order, a man whose entire political career is oppositional even when he is president. A wannabe fascist whose supporters are thankfully too incompetent to even do a coup right, a greasy palmed buddy of Jeffrey Epstein, and by far the prime example of wealth not being achieved through hard work but inheritance and opportunism.

He's gone. His career is over. Even if he somehow escapes prosecution, he will go down as a lead balloon in the annals of contemporary history.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:42 am

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Same.
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He will not be remembered well. James Buchanan is no longer the worst president

Trump will definitely not be remembered well but far from the worst, or anywhere near that. Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover, Millard Fillmore, and James Buchanan all caused lasting damage to America that took decades to fix and isn’t even fixed today. Trump, for all he shouts and screams, didn’t pass much destructive policy
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Postby Corrian » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:43 am

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:After what happened on Tuesday and Wednesday, I don't think I can call myself a Trump supporter any longer. Until now, I have always considered Donald Trump and his supporters to be the more peaceful and tolerant side compared to the much more violent, intolerant, anti-free speech, anti-democratic Left. Not anymore. Now, they've crossed a line.

For the first time ever, Donald Trump and his supporters in D.C. are actually guilty of inciting and enacting riotous violence and threatening democracy. Now, they are no better than equally violent, anti-democratic Antifa/BLM rioters on the far-left, and Republicans and Democrats alike are absolutely right to condemn the violence, although Joe Biden, his party colleagues, and the MSM are hypocrites for waiting till now to finally condemn seditious mob violence when they have had more than half a year to do so instead of labeling critics of Antifa and BLM as racists, fascists, pro-police sympathizers, shills for dictatorships, and "fundamentally dishonest actors" like they did to me last year. It's supremely ironic to hear Joe Biden et al. calling for law and order now. Defund the police? I don't think so.

Trump rioters and Antifa/BLM rioters should be severely dealt with in equal measure without anyone being labeled a traitor or a fascist, respectively. This condemnation of Trump rioters has also extended to those who would normally be sympathetic, such as Megyn Kelly and Lauren Southern judging from my Twitter feed.

For the first time ever, I agree with Facebook and Twitter's decision to remove some of Trump's controversial posts and suspend him from their platforms. It's one thing to spread lies and misinformation about an election or a pandemic. I don't believe misinformation should be censored provided the accounts are authentic. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and all sides should be heard. But if you actively incite violence or threaten people or groups of people, FB and Twitter have every right to ban you permanently.

Donald Trump just cost Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue their seats in the Senate, giving the Democrats complete control of the legislature, the executive, and potentially, via the Senate, the judiciary. He has denied Republicans the ability to provide a meaningful check and balance in Congress. Many of his own staff have resigned in disgust. Mike Pence's safety and the safety of other moderate Republicans, some of whom I respect and admire, were put on the line that day. They are right to turn their backs on him in response to the Georgia losses and the Capitol riots. Donald Trump is a political liability and I won't hold it against them if they vote to remove him from office less than two weeks ahead of schedule. Or not. It's entirely up to them. Thankfully, it appears that the President's last-ditch attempt at a self-coup has backfired spectacularly.

I'm thoroughly disappointed in the President, his formerly peaceful hardcore supporters, and the multiracial Proud Boys whose black Cuban leader was arrested earlier. Donald Trump was awesome before he lost the election. Now, he's nothing more than a pathetic whiner who has just dug an early grave. Sucks to be him right now.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:44 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:The mask has finally come off. Donald Trump is a conman, a snake oil salesman, an anti-intellectual demagogue who somehow is able to convince his followers to attempt a terrorist coup. Worst than that, he's proud of it. Throughout his whole life, he is a swindling cheat who has no consistent moral values, a grifter of the highest order, a man whose entire political career is oppositional even when he is president. A wannabe fascist whose supporters are thankfully too incompetent to even do a coup right, a greasy palmed buddy of Jeffrey Epstein, and by far the prime example of wealth not being achieved through hard work but inheritance and opportunism.

He's gone. His career is over. Even if he somehow escapes prosecution, he will go down as a lead balloon in the annals of contemporary history.

There was never a mask. The Emperor has always been naked.
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Postby Asherahan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:46 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Please he did the best he could.

He tweeted that they should stop.

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"best he could."

Yes exactly like that.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:47 am

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:-snip-


Based, kind of. Better late than never to realise the joke's been on you for a while.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:47 am

Insaanistan wrote:
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James Buchanan didn't actively try to destroy the United States. Trump did.

^This

Y’all Buchanan is literally responsible for the civil war. He did nothing to stop it and actually inflamed everything. For all of Trumps faults he’s not Buchanan
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:48 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Please he did the best he could.

He tweeted that they should stop.

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"best he could."

This is legit the quote I used when discussing Trump’s response to my friends yesterday.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:48 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No Buchanan is still the worst on account of the civil war


James Buchanan didn't actively try to destroy the United States. Trump did.


Stop being melodramatic.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:49 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:^This

Y’all Buchanan is literally responsible for the civil war. He did nothing to stop it and actually inflamed everything. For all of Trumps faults he’s not Buchanan

The fault of the Civil was the South wanting to keep slaves so much that the began firing on Fort Sumter.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:49 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Y’all Buchanan is literally responsible for the civil war. He did nothing to stop it and actually inflamed everything. For all of Trumps faults he’s not Buchanan

The fault of the Civil was the South wanting to keep slaves so much that the began firing on Fort Sumter.

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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
James Buchanan didn't actively try to destroy the United States. Trump did.

You sure about that? Take a look at some of his letters to aides and friends in the South after South Carolina seceded
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:50 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
James Buchanan didn't actively try to destroy the United States. Trump did.


Stop being melodramatic.


Trump literally stood aside and allowed his NPCs to raid the Capitol building in DC to forcefully overturn a democratic election. That sounds like destroying a fundamental value of America to me.

James Buchanan did that Civil War thing so he's still worse.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:51 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Please he did the best he could.

He tweeted that they should stop.

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"best he could."


Twitter literally deleted his tweets telling them to go home.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:52 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Image
"best he could."


Twitter literally deleted his tweets telling them to go home.

Which was the correct course of action.
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Postby The Marlborough » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:54 am

How could the Irish potato famine happen if they were surrounded by fish?
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Postby Asherahan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:54 am

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This is why fascism is a death cult.

I am not using the f word flippantly, btw. What Trump advocated for, and what his supporters attempted, is basically fascism.
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Postby Asherahan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:56 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Image
"best he could."


Twitter literally deleted his tweets telling them to go home.

Yeah if you watched his video of himself asking his supporters to please be calm and leave then you would understand the fucking insincerity and lies he spewed in less than 1 minute.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:56 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Y’all Buchanan is literally responsible for the civil war. He did nothing to stop it and actually inflamed everything. For all of Trumps faults he’s not Buchanan

The fault of the Civil was the South wanting to keep slaves so much that the began firing on Fort Sumter.

Which Buchanan helped get going.

If Buchanan had actually tried he could have prevented the civil war, he didn’t. Instead he inflamed things.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:56 am



Y'all cowards don't even storm Capitols.
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Postby Charleville de Montoir » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:56 am

Ifreann wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
This failed simply because Trump and the fans who rushed the capitol aren't very smart. Their tactics for the attempted coup were limited to "run as fast as you can into the capitol building and break shit," and there was no plan after that.

Most likely they all expected that Trump would send them military reinforcements.

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Postby Omniabstracta » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:57 am

Asherahan wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Twitter literally deleted his tweets telling them to go home.

Yeah if you watched his video of himself asking his supporters to please be calm and leave then you would understand the fucking insincerity and lies he spewed in less than 1 minute.

They also didn’t delete them until well after his mob was already dispersing.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:58 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Image
"best he could."


Twitter literally deleted his tweets telling them to go home.


Which were really insincere and full of shit.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:59 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Twitter literally deleted his tweets telling them to go home.

Which was the correct course of action.


If you're part of a fascist cult who wants to destroy america, I guess that would seem like the right idea. Because that really seems to be what corporate America has become.

Asherahan wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Twitter literally deleted his tweets telling them to go home.

Yeah if you watched his video of himself asking his supporters to please be calm and leave then you would understand the fucking insincerity and lies he spewed in less than 1 minute.


You see insincerity because you want to see insincerity.
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