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Postby Nevertopia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:45 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Photo of a very ssmart individual flying the flag of Georgia at the storming yesterday


Just happens to be the wrong Georgia


This needs to be framed at the smithsonian. Its such a poignant snapshot of the current times. People marching against the very thing that they said they were fighting for and believing in things they don't understand. Its art.
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Postby Esternial » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:45 am

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Esternial wrote:Blame that on politicians, etc. de-humanizing their opponents.


That's rich, coming from an alpaca.

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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:46 am

I'm tired of living in interesting times.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:49 am

Punished UMN wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Cool down the rhetoric? Fuck that. She was a domestic terrorist participating in a coup on the Capitol building. I don't have sympathy for anyone who brazenly try to destroy our republic.

Even if you don't for her, she had family and friends, many of whom likely didn't share her views.


And they can blame themselves for not helping her escape the qAnon hell.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:49 am

alright everyone, it looks like we're all done for the night, so your news bulletin is shutting down after 2 successive days of rapid fire reporting :p
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:51 am

Asherahan wrote:Are trumpers seriously calling the people who stormed the capitol antifa?


Disinformation is a core business of the republicans now. Even if people like Romney beg people to just stop lying.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:54 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Are trumpers seriously calling the people who stormed the capitol antifa?


Disinformation is a core business of the republicans now. Even if people like Romney beg people to just stop lying.


Far right wingers benefit from post-truth and ahistoricality. It doesn't matter what comes out of their mouths, what matters is if people are convinced.
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Postby Nevertopia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:54 am

Ever feel like all the Q-Anon conspiracy theorists are a bunch of LARPers? All they care about is preserving their objectively wrong, fantastical world view that they want to inhabit in. They want to feel special, like the world is flat, that magic exists and science is deception. Any time something from the real world punctures their world view they try to add in more lore and mythical figures to console themselves like an aggressive "dark" army thats trying to break down their world or a god emperor of man who will save them. The more I think about it the more it seems like Q-Anons are a bunch of conspiracy weebs.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:55 am

Also apparently the woman who died was shot after repeatedly refusing to heed police warnings.

What is it the cons always say? If you could've cooperated with police and don't then it's your own fault if you get shot?
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Postby Kanadorika » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:57 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Photo of a very ssmart individual flying the flag of Georgia at the storming yesterday


Just happens to be the wrong Georgia

Tbh they're probably actually Georgian. I see Armenian flags all the time at protests where i live.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:58 am

Nevertopia wrote:Ever feel like all the Q-Anon conspiracy theorists are a bunch of LARPers? All they care about is preserving their objectively wrong, fantastical world view that they want to inhabit in. They want to feel special, like the world is flat, that magic exists and science is deception. Any time something from the real world punctures their world view they try to add in more lore and mythical figures to console themselves like an aggressive "dark" army thats trying to break down their world or a god emperor of man who will save them. The more I think about it the more it seems like Q-Anons are a bunch of conspiracy weebs.


There is an overlap between conspiracy theories and bootlicking. Usually there is an Other or grand master behind the conspiracy, who needs to be overthrown by an ENLIGHTENED SAVIOUR who will restore peace, order and stability for those who know The Truth TM.
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Postby Nevertopia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:01 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
Nevertopia wrote:Ever feel like all the Q-Anon conspiracy theorists are a bunch of LARPers? All they care about is preserving their objectively wrong, fantastical world view that they want to inhabit in. They want to feel special, like the world is flat, that magic exists and science is deception. Any time something from the real world punctures their world view they try to add in more lore and mythical figures to console themselves like an aggressive "dark" army thats trying to break down their world or a god emperor of man who will save them. The more I think about it the more it seems like Q-Anons are a bunch of conspiracy weebs.


There is an overlap between conspiracy theories and bootlicking. Usually there is an Other or grand master behind the conspiracy, who needs to be overthrown by an ENLIGHTENED SAVIOUR who will restore peace, order and stability for those who know The Truth TM.


So they ARE LARPers. Its like the grown up dysfunctional version of that one kid in highschool who thought he had superpowers.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:02 am

America urgently needs Real Social Democracy. The events are very sad. The whole world is worried about American politics. I hope nobody gets hurt. I would like to believe that American Democracy cannot be corrupt enough to kill its own citizens, but I really doubt it.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:07 am

Nevertopia wrote:Ever feel like all the Q-Anon conspiracy theorists are a bunch of LARPers? All they care about is preserving their objectively wrong, fantastical world view that they want to inhabit in. They want to feel special, like the world is flat, that magic exists and science is deception. Any time something from the real world punctures their world view they try to add in more lore and mythical figures to console themselves like an aggressive "dark" army thats trying to break down their world or a god emperor of man who will save them. The more I think about it the more it seems like Q-Anons are a bunch of conspiracy weebs.


Q-Anon is more insidious. It works by encouraging you to "do your own research" - or at least pretending you will be doing that.
Instead they start you on a trail of crumbs leading to the path they want you to take. And since you are convinced that*YOU* discovered everything, your belief in it is strengthened. So much easier to believe that the media is telling lies when you "discovered" those "lies" yourself.
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Postby Nerovia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:09 am

I absolutely condemn yesterday's siege on Capitol Hill. I felt so angry and speechless inside. Trump has lost any and all legitimacy from the American public. Thank God the members of Congress prevailed by coming back into the chamber and certified the vote. Stay safe out there everyone.

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Postby Hirota » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:14 am

RiderSyl wrote:I'm tired of living in interesting times.
It's no more or less interesting than before. It's simply 24 hour news channels, and citizen journos on twitter and youtube have to do something to occupy their time and attract revenue motivates them towards sensationalism, and the relative ease with which we can access that information makes it easier to discover content.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:18 am

It is a tragic proof that what matters is not language, religion, or race. Social Democrats must unite against anti-democratic Racist Radicals.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:19 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:It is a tragic proof that what matters is not language, religion, or race. Social Democrats must unite against anti-democratic Racist Radicals.

Dont even fucking think of trying to turn this into another one of your Anti Armenian rants.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:20 am

Vassenor wrote:Also apparently the woman who died was shot after repeatedly refusing to heed police warnings.

What is it the cons always say? If you could've cooperated with police and don't then it's your own fault if you get shot?

It's very silly when they blame people for being killed, it's very silly when you blame people for being killed. The act is silly not the people doing it*.

* the people doing it may or may not be silly and should be judged on a case by case basis
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Postby Shanzie » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:22 am

Hirota wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:I'm tired of living in interesting times.
It's no more or less interesting than before. It's simply 24 hour news channels, and citizen journos on twitter and youtube have to do something to occupy their time and attract revenue motivates them towards sensationalism, and the relative ease with which we can access that information makes it easier to discover content.

How is it no more interesting than before? So many unprecedented things happened yesterday and this morning in the midst of a pandemic thats killed over 350,000 Americans, a massive global recession, massive protests and riots all year long,, and the edging of our nation to war with yet another Middle Eastern country. The 2000s had two wars and a global recession and the public didn't react like this and our politics didn't get this dirty.

Our nation is in continual crisis mode and we aren't gonna be out of this for a while yet.

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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:24 am

Interesting looks from life site news, that great source of bullshit that used to be a decent website to read about developments relevant to pro-life campaigning:

Prior to today, the election was totally stolen, go out and protest. Then the protesters were 'patriots.' Now Trump has promised a peaceful transition, Biden has won. I love to see how 'facts' change depending on what Trump thinks for some of these people.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:32 am

Vassenor wrote:Also apparently the woman who died was shot after repeatedly refusing to heed police warnings.

What is it the cons always say? If you could've cooperated with police and don't then it's your own fault if you get shot?


She died in battle for a sleazebag new york billionaire.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:35 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:It is a tragic proof that what matters is not language, religion, or race. Social Democrats must unite against anti-democratic Racist Radicals.

Dont even fucking think of trying to turn this into another one of your Anti Armenian rants.
(It is a tragic proof that what matters is not language, religion, or race) Read what I have written correctly, everything like this in America and the world is based on anti-democracy. I think the social democrats should be together against such anti-democratic people. Huskar, I will explain in a language you can understand. It doesn't matter if you are Armenian, Turkish or American. the important thing is to be a good person.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:35 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Also apparently the woman who died was shot after repeatedly refusing to heed police warnings.

What is it the cons always say? If you could've cooperated with police and don't then it's your own fault if you get shot?


She died in battle for a sleazebag new york billionaire.


This is why fascism is a death cult.

I am not using the f word flippantly, btw. What Trump advocated for, and what his supporters attempted, is basically fascism.
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