American Politics I: It's All Applesauce

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

Nah, if you want truly ascended people, bring back Huey Long

Leftists: "No kings!"

Conservatives: "Keep our king!"

Huey Long: "Every man a King!"

If everyone's a king, no one is a king.

*Crowns myself.*

[Major-Tom]

I just wish that one of these Senators who was 100% on the Trump Train would just flatly say "I was wrong and I screwed up." No "I had to reconsiders," just having the balls to say "I did the wrong things before and after the election."

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Both are very dangerous demagogues.

They sure are. They would further accelerate inevitable developments in the one or other direction and fulfill unwittigly a specific role within the greater picture.

Of course an Andrew Yang might be the much better alternative, because he skips several steps ahead.

Always unpack more. Who exactly are “Latino” voters? Why are Cuban Americans more Republican than Mexican ones? Does...uh...actual ancestry matter? Yes it does. Whether people speak Spanish doesn’t.

American definition of race is total nonsense.

It even ignores the spanish casta system. lol

The thing is...ethnic voting is very dangerous. The fact that everyone already agrees on ethnic bean counting is what makes a democracy unstable.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I just wish that one of these Senators who was 100% on the Trump Train would just flatly say "I was wrong and I screwed up." No "I had to reconsiders," just having the balls to say "I did the wrong things before and after the election."

"I supported an extremist."

[Torisakia]

I just wish that one of these Senators who was 100% on the Trump Train would just flatly say "I was wrong and I screwed up." No "I had to reconsiders," just having the balls to say "I did the wrong things before and after the election."

As if that's supposed to make people feel sorry for them.

[Bombadil]

I just wish that one of these Senators who was 100% on the Trump Train would just flatly say "I was wrong and I screwed up." No "I had to reconsiders," just having the balls to say "I did the wrong things before and after the election."

Didn't Kelly Loeffler kind of say that?

EDIT: oh, see what you mean..

[Herador]

"Blood has been spilled in these hallways".
Something about that line put this in a kind of context for me, it feels heavier now. Damn.

[Thermodolia]

Biden more or less maintained minority support (exception of Hispanics in Texas and Florida) and greatly increased his share of poor whites, a demographic some had convinced themselves would never vote Dem after 2016.

Turns out poor people want to hear you talk about jobs and the future instead of QAnon election rigging.

Which is why democrats won in Georgia. They talked about jobs, healthcare, and defeating Covid so we can get back to work.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

"Blood has been spilled in these hallways".
Something about that line put this in a kind of context for me, it feels heavier now. Damn.

Whenever the Capitol building is open for tours again (so, like, 2099), it's going to feel very somber.

[Ostroeuropa]

Biden lost among all age and income groups for black people too though.

It was literally the retirement home white males abandoning trump en masse. Again; he gained among *every single other demographic*.

He didn't though.

He actually got most of the black vote for example. (Even with Kamala, one of the most hated women in by the black population, as his running mate)

Yeah, as I said, that was me being unclear with language. Biden "lost" as in he had proportionally less support of that demographic than previous years for the democrats. (So like, instead of 60% of the black vote, he got 55%.). I phrased this as "Lost among all age and income groups for black people", which obviously sounds wrong.

Trump gained in all demographics, except older white males, who swung heavily for biden.

[Ameriganastan]

If you're looking for a genuine person rather than rabid bourgeoisie...

Nah, if you want truly ascended people, bring back Huey Long

Leftists: "No kings!"

Conservatives: "Keep our king!"

Huey Long: "Every man a King!"

I'd have voted for Huey if I was around back then. That guy spoke my language.

[Jerzylvania]

Lots of talk about invoking the 25th in the cabinet apparently.

Finally, some impetus!

[Picairn]

"Blood has been spilled in these hallways".
Something about that line put this in a kind of context for me, it feels heavier now. Damn.

Unprecedented events create unprecedented emotions.

[La Paz de Los Ricos]

I just wish that one of these Senators who was 100% on the Trump Train would just flatly say "I was wrong and I screwed up." No "I had to reconsiders," just having the balls to say "I did the wrong things before and after the election."

"I supported an extremist."

"I supported the dismantling of the system by which the will of the people may be exercised in order to support an extremist." All the skeletons need to come out, in no uncertain terms.

[Chan Island]

Where can we watch the Senate stuff?

I'm watching it on NPR on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/10643211755/vi ... /?__tn__=F

Well, listening.


Also, Ben Sasse is being the absolute definition of uncanny valley. I have no clear idea about how to interpret it.

[Cedoria]

For anyone trying to justify Trump in that he asked people to 'go home in peace', no, they should have turned themselves into the police frankly, going home in peace should not be the result of an attempted coup.

Law and order only applies to people who don't like Trump inside Trumpworld.

‘Law and order’ for Trump is when he makes the laws and sets the rules of the order.

[Torisakia]

"I supported an extremist."

"I supported the dismantling of the system by which the will of the people may be exercised in order to support an extremist." All the skeletons need to come out, in no uncertain terms.

Honestly after they've supported all that I don't see how they could be forgiven. Even if they admit they were wrong.

[Major-Tom]

Where can we watch the Senate stuff?

I'm watching it on NPR on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/10643211755/vi ... /?__tn__=F

Well, listening.


Also, Ben Sasse is being the absolute definition of uncanny valley. I have no clear idea about how to interpret it.

Yeah, it's bizarre just listening to these words.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Law and order only applies to people who don't like Trump inside Trumpworld.

‘Law and order’ for Trump is when he makes the laws and sets the rules of the order.

“Law and order” means status quo.

[Nakena]

The thing is...ethnic voting is very dangerous. The fact that everyone already agrees on ethnic bean counting is what makes a democracy unstable.

It's not the paramount topic anymore due Covid-19 and other factors. It's still present though.

Trump and the GOP lost because they focussed on playing the race and ideology card and failed in practical terms, not just a bit but desastrously. The poor handling of Covid-19 cost Trump the presidency.

[Herador]

"Blood has been spilled in these hallways".
Something about that line put this in a kind of context for me, it feels heavier now. Damn.

Unprecedented events create unprecedented emotions.

It is unprecedented, isn't it? Shitposting aside for a moment, it's weird to know we just watched American history get live tweeted.

[Baldwin Park]

The Biden campaign did say they had no interest in Latino voters, and Latino voters clearly listened.

Always unpack more. Who exactly are “Latino” voters? Why are Cuban Americans more Republican than Mexican ones? Does...uh...actual ancestry matter? Yes it does. Whether people speak Spanish doesn’t just like whether they speak English doesn’t.

This! Each group tends towards different politics. Mexican Americans tend to vote Democrat, Cuban Americans are Republican diehards.

There are always vendidos everywhere afterall.

Latinos more than just one monolithic bloc with predictable outcomes.

[Chan Island]

I'm watching it on NPR on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/10643211755/vi ... /?__tn__=F

Well, listening.


Also, Ben Sasse is being the absolute definition of uncanny valley. I have no clear idea about how to interpret it.

Yeah, it's bizarre just listening to these words.

He's so all over the place. Best explanation I can think is that his psyche's been rattled by the events and it's basically word salad for him.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

The thing is...ethnic voting is very dangerous. The fact that everyone already agrees on ethnic bean counting is what makes a democracy unstable.

It's not the paramount topic anymore due Covid-19 and other factors. It's still present though.

Trump and the GOP lost because they focussed on playing the race and ideology card and failed in practical terms, not just a bit but desastrously. The poor handling of Covid-19 cost Trump the presidency.

Well, ideology is actually not that dangerous except for totalitarian ones. Ethnicity is.

[Jerzylvania]

I'm watching it on NPR on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/10643211755/vi ... /?__tn__=F

Well, listening.


Also, Ben Sasse is being the absolute definition of uncanny valley. I have no clear idea about how to interpret it.

Yeah, it's bizarre just listening to these words.

It's like they all suddenly got religion.