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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm

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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm

The Provincial Union of the Pacific wrote:
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Peacefully gathering doesn’t involve smashing windows while heavily armed, shooting stuff, and occupying government buildings.
That sounds like a slightly more violent version of Lenin’s takeover of Petrograd.


I condemn what they're doing, I said I believe the people should have the right to peacefully gather rather than do what they are doing now. I never said they were peacefully gathering.


Ah okay.
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Postby CoraSpia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm


There might be some context that's being missed.
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Postby Phaenix » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm

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New haven america wrote:Can I call them fascists now without getting the whole "You don't know what fascism is" spiel?

I mean she specifically said Hitler was right about saying whomever has the youth has the future...which is true.

She could've not mentioned she agreed with Hitler to make that point. It kinda shows her true colors. And they're red and black arranged into a broken cross.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm

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What’s to add about that post other than the obvious thing we know: Trump is a fucking tool.

I feel like you haven't seen it. He told them to go home.


I have. Opened with saying elections were stolen. Nice way to throw more fuel to the fire. Then told them to go home and “be angry”. Nice presidential de-escalation tactics. Much wow. Mhm. :roll:
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I mean she specifically said Hitler was right about saying whomever has the youth has the future...which is true.


Silence, you and your context. We don't allow any of that in here.


Maybe don't quote Hitler if you don't want people to get the wrong idea.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
Peacefully gathering doesn’t involve smashing windows while heavily armed, shooting stuff, and occupying government buildings.
That sounds like a slightly more violent version of Lenin’s takeover of Petrograd.

Please don't compare it to a cool thing


Cringe take.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:As someone who supports abolition of police entirely but also dislikes those far-right protestors, I'm having conflicted feelings right now.

What’s far right? Most of those protestors are just normal Trump supporters
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:56 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
New haven america wrote:Can I call them fascists now without getting the whole "You don't know what fascism is" spiel?

I mean she specifically said Hitler was right about saying whomever has the youth has the future...which is true.

Then why did she have to mention Hitler specifically?
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

Valrifell wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Silence, you and your context. We don't allow any of that in here.


Maybe don't quote Hitler if you don't want people to get the wrong idea.

Yeah...that should go without saying, but alas....
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Postby Cordel One » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

The Federal Government of Iowa wrote:
Cordel One wrote:He was dripping with sarcasm when he said that.

lmao no he wasn't

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
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The sooner the better.

Fuck Trump and his cult.


Iirc he called himself the Law and Order candidate.


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Postby The Federal Government of Iowa » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Federal Government of Iowa wrote:I feel like you haven't seen it. He told them to go home.


I have. Opened with saying elections were stolen. Nice way to throw more fuel to the fire. Then told them to go home and “be angry”. Nice presidential de-escalation tactics. Much wow. Mhm. :roll:

Better than saying "stay here and be angry"
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:As someone who supports abolition of police entirely but also dislikes those far-right protestors, I'm having conflicted feelings right now.

What’s far right? Most of those protestors are just normal Trump supporters


So far right
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

The Federal Government of Iowa wrote:
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The individuals--who have been incorrectly identified as "Americans"--who are attempting to subvert the lawful Federal Government of the United States of America, her Constitution, and the democratic process because their cryptofascist cult leader lost a free and fair election.

Who else?

A. Trump is not a fascist
B. He did lose
C. These nuts are traitors.


I didn't say he was a fascist, I said he was a cryptofascist.
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Postby Xanthal » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

New haven america wrote:2. Moving goalposts from "They did it to de-escalate" to "They would've died if they did it."

Pick one and stick with it please.

In fairness, the two aren't mutually exclusive.
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Postby Chan Island » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

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The Two Jerseys wrote:Protesters clearly found a way to the other side of the fence already, I wouldn't be surprised if they took the fence down so as not to agitate the crowd.


Either way Capitol police dropped the ball and need to be investigated as to how they let this happen.


And took selfies with the protestors inside the Capitol building.
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Postby Phaenix » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:As someone who supports abolition of police entirely but also dislikes those far-right protestors, I'm having conflicted feelings right now.

What’s far right? Most of those protestors are just normal Trump supporters

Normal Trump supporters voted for him because he's a Republican. These guys are far-right insurrectionists.
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Postby The Federal Government of Iowa » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm

Cordel One wrote:
The Federal Government of Iowa wrote:lmao no he wasn't

"They stole the election but go away, it's all horrile but we need peace, we can't let them win but this is not okay..."

Yes, both of those things can be true at once. They aren't mutually exclusive.
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Postby Heloin » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:58 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
New haven america wrote:Can I call them fascists now without getting the whole "You don't know what fascism is" spiel?

I mean she specifically said Hitler was right about saying whomever has the youth has the future...which is true.

Plenty of people said that, she didn't need to mention Hitler. Let's start being honest about it, a bunch of right wing fascists have stormed the US Capital building.

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Postby Jedi Council » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:58 pm

CoraSpia wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Jesus fucking christ.

There might be some context that's being missed.


No no, I understand the context; but surely, if one wants to make a quote about winning the hearts and minds of the youth, there are better people to quote than Adolf eh?
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:58 pm

New haven america wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I mean she specifically said Hitler was right about saying whomever has the youth has the future...which is true.

Then why did she have to mention Hitler specifically?

No idea, that was stupid to do. There are other people who have said something similar. “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man" being similar.
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