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Zarnicovia nova
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:45 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The terrorist faction of the MAGA hats is here. These people are terrorists. No better then ISIS.

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... not really... ISIS shoots... these well shoot less.
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Postby Silvedania » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:45 pm

The Federal Government of Iowa wrote:I am a Trump supporter, I believe that his policies have been largely good and correct, even though his attitude is terrible and he says dumb s###. But honestly, f### these rioters. These bastards don't represent conservativism or Republicans, people who truly like this country would not do what they're doing. F### them, they should all be tried and killed for this siege.

Now, I don't support Trump, but I agree with you that they are embarrassing themselves in the face of a movement(conservatism) that doesn't want to be represented that way.
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Postby The Provincial Union of the Pacific » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:45 pm

The United States Capitol from my understanding belongs to the People of the United States and they should have the right to peacefully gather in it and occupy it as they need, all sides and opinions should have that right. However the violence they've undertaken to exercise said rights is disgraceful, storming the Capitol of the United States and defacing it like a common warehouse in some slummed out neighbourhood isn't a modern form of protest.

I believe while they should have the right to occupy the chambers and building (as I believe all of the American people should on all ends of the political spectrum), I believe their methods of doing so to be utterly disgraceful and they should choose better forms of protest.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:46 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Too late one woman is already dead.


This is not necessarily true.

The news came from the American politics thread via a contested tweet that's since been deleted.

The latest reports from reputable media are that 'one woman is in critical condition after being shot in the chest on Capitol grounds'.

I know that this is an emotive topic, but let's please try and stick to verifiable facts if possible.

Oh good, hope she survives.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:46 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You need a little more than that, but yes. It didn’t work this time, but wait until the president is intelligent and the very electorate deeming said person popular permits the shenanigans. Check Putin, and Chavez. What they did they did because the electorate permitted it.

Get someone who can game the system, who’s popular and an accepting population and say goodbye to your republic.

Or wait till we have another unpopular president and another economic crisis, and some bright young senator or DC-area colonel gets an idea.


Another possibility, yes.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:46 pm

Xanthal wrote:

I don't think this is what you're portraying it as.

Protesters clearly found a way to the other side of the fence already, I wouldn't be surprised if they took the fence down so as not to agitate the crowd.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:46 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Too late one woman is already dead.


This is not necessarily true.

The news came from the American politics thread via a contested tweet that's since been deleted.

The latest reports from reputable media are that 'one woman is in critical condition after being shot in the chest on Capitol grounds'.

I know that this is an emotive topic, but let's please try and stick to verifiable facts if possible.

Well from what is sounds she may not survive.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:46 pm

New haven america wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
85% of Norway is Norwegian by ethnic ancestry. What percentage do they need to have for you to consider it an ethnostate?

The Norwegian sovereign wealth fund totals $200k USD per taxpayer, almost exclusively funded with oil. The US only makes ~700 dollars per citizen off of oil. In what world is 200k comparable to 700, or were you just throwing out unfounded assumptions you repeat as truth?

That's because Norway actually invests that money into it's population's well being, instead of the US which invests that money into its corporation's well being.


But my graph is going up! Neoliberalism must be our only way.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:46 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Too late one woman is already dead.


This is not necessarily true.

The news came from the American politics thread via a contested tweet that's since been deleted.

The latest reports from reputable media are that 'one woman is in critical condition after being shot in the chest on Capitol grounds'.

I know that this is an emotive topic, but let's please try and stick to verifiable facts if possible.

Oh thanks gods. Hopefully she lives.
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Postby Cordel One » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:46 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Xanthal wrote:I don't think this is what you're portraying it as.

Protesters clearly found a way to the other side of the fence already, I wouldn't be surprised if they took the fence down so as not to agitate the crowd.

Riiiight.

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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:47 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
This is not necessarily true.

The news came from the American politics thread via a contested tweet that's since been deleted.

The latest reports from reputable media are that 'one woman is in critical condition after being shot in the chest on Capitol grounds'.

I know that this is an emotive topic, but let's please try and stick to verifiable facts if possible.

Oh good, hope she survives.

yes I hope that she survives. No one should die here but from what I've heard it doesn't sound too good for her.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:47 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The terrorist faction of the MAGA hats is here. These people are terrorists. No better then ISIS.

Yeah no, ISIS waged wars of genocide and cultural annihilation across multiple states in the Middle East, committed mass rape, mass executions, mass forced conversion and sold people into slavery and killed and injured thousands in terror attacks across multiple continents. ISIS is considerable worse.
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Postby Phaenix » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:47 pm

Setting fire to a court somewhere in Portland is one thing. A nuisance, but not unsalvageable. Attempting to breach the Capitol and institute mob rule is another. This should be put down hard and fast.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:47 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Xanthal wrote:I don't think this is what you're portraying it as.

Protesters clearly found a way to the other side of the fence already, I wouldn't be surprised if they took the fence down so as not to agitate the crowd.

Because god forbid police agitate the crowd.

Oh wait, they spent the entire summer happily doing that with left-wing protesters.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:47 pm

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:47 pm

New haven america wrote:1. Actually, me and Grav has just checked, Norway is one of the only NATO members to meet it's required spending.
2. Well they're not an ethno-state and they make less oil money than the US does, so...


A last comment, since some people are sad about sidetalk.

By the source Grav posted, Norway missed their 2% target every single year for the last ten years except getting within a hair's breadth in 2020. If you consider that meeting required spending, I'm not sure how to talk math with you.

Another math comment. If you want to compare raw oil numbers between the US, who has 300 million inhabitants, and Norway, who has 5 million inhabitants, and not talk per capita numbers, you're just not applying rational measurements.

And that's all I'll say. You can Google numbers for yourself. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:48 pm

I will never get tired of the fact that the name of the mayor of DC is Bowser.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:48 pm

Looks like Tear gas has deployed.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:48 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Xanthal wrote:I don't think this is what you're portraying it as.

Protesters clearly found a way to the other side of the fence already, I wouldn't be surprised if they took the fence down so as not to agitate the crowd.


Either way Capitol police dropped the ball and need to be investigated as to how they let this happen.
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Postby Silvedania » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:48 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:The terrorist faction of the MAGA hats is here. These people are terrorists. No better then ISIS.

This is not true, ISIS is a lot worse than these protestors.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:48 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:I will never get tired of the fact that the name of the mayor of DC is Bowser.


That’s true! :lol2:

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:48 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
"All we want is for the Capitol police to stand down, and surrender the building to us," says one man to news cameras, as he is filmed by other Trump supporters.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/electio ... type=share

Fucking lol. Completely delusional.

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:49 pm

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Postby Chan Island » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:49 pm

Shrillland wrote:I'm not normally so strict, but will you all shut the fuck up about Norway? The United States Capitol has been taken over by a bunch of treasonous rats, take your discussion to another thread.


Never thought you'd have it to say it like that. Respect.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:49 pm

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