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Heloin
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Postby Heloin » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:39 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Torisakia wrote:This whole event has added fuel to my argument that the US is not a first world country. Even calling us a third world country would be an insult to actually third world countries.

But the literal definition of "first world country" includes the US and its allies.

First world and third world hasn't been used for that propose in decades aside as pedantic way to not describe some countries as what they are. The US isn't that bad yet but it is a complete mess.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:39 pm

Can we stop talking about Norway. The thread is moving fast enough as it is, without superfluous posts.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:39 pm

Well, hopefully these protests end before anyone dies. Pence already has told them to leave the building, and Trump has ordered the national guard, so at least they'll ensure peace.

Wonder if these will be classified as peaceful as the Euromaidan and the BLM protests.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm

[quote="New haven america";p="38175160"][/quote]

So... your point is that they get to not have and use a military because others secure their borders, and they can't even have the intellectual integrity to support those others?

Just posted some facts on the Norwegian ethnostate and oil revenues. Would love to hear your opinion.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Well, hopefully these protests end before anyone dies. Pence already has told them to leave the building, and Trump has ordered the national guard, so at least they'll ensure peace.

Wonder if these will be classified as peaceful as the Euromaidan and the BLM protests.

Too late one woman is already dead.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm

Shrillland wrote:NBC News is saying Congressional leadership might continue the count procedures from inside their bunkers if necessary.

Fucking hell. Imagine having to elect your head of state from a bunker complex.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm

"All we want is for the Capitol police to stand down, and surrender the building to us," says one man to news cameras, as he is filmed by other Trump supporters.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/electio ... type=share

Fucking lol. Completely delusional.

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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:FFS Vassenor and Insaanistan why the hell did you quote that post.

Not sure. A lot of Trump supporters are just like that, so I didn’t realize he was a troll. Evidently, he wasn’t an ex-Nation either when I replied.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm

Istoreya wrote:
Silvedania wrote:Was the woman storming the building?

She was, but unarmed, and possibly pregnant.

Oh. Welp what happened to get her shot and killed?
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Postby Andsed » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm

Shrillland wrote:NBC News is saying Congressional leadership might continue the count procedures from inside their bunkers if necessary.

Good. Get the confirmation done. Show these fucks their temper tantrum means nothing.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm

TBH, this probably should've happened 4 years ago, except instead of trying to keep Trump in it should've been to keep him out. (And you know, less shooty)

Because now any forceful push for ideology in this country is gonna get labeled Right-Wing/Trumpian.
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Postby Faraby » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm

Shrillland wrote:NBC News is saying Congressional leadership might continue the count procedures from inside their bunkers if necessary.


Good. This is a perfectly legitimate, constitutional process.
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Postby Silvedania » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm

Istoreya wrote:
Silvedania wrote:Was the woman storming the building?

She was, but unarmed, and possibly pregnant.

Wait, so a person storming the building killed another person storming the building. It was a very dumb idea that that person had to start randomly firing, it definitely was.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:40 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Torisakia wrote:This whole event has added fuel to my argument that the US is not a first world country. Even calling us a third world country would be an insult to actually third world countries.

But the literal definition of "first world country" includes the US and its allies.

This has gotten so far out of hand. I think a lot of it might be caused by pent-up frustrations from everything that's been happening, and now it's all boiled over.


While it's true that first/second/third world were originally used for such a definition, popular usage has changed and so have their meanings.

I think this "pent up frustrations" will only continue to grow so long as Americans suffer from the inaction of two parties that are beholden to their corporate interests. Reform is but an empty promise. The current economic and societal structure cannot be sustained.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:41 pm



The sooner the better.

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Postby Xanthal » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:41 pm

Shrillland wrote:NBC News is saying Congressional leadership might continue the count procedures from inside their bunkers if necessary.

I hope not; this is not a time for our leaders to retreat. Get back in the chamber and do your Constitutional duty. Let the cameras see what destruction Trump's rhetoric has wrought.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:41 pm

Silvedania wrote:
Istoreya wrote:She was, but unarmed, and possibly pregnant.

Wait, so a person storming the building killed another person storming the building. It was a very dumb idea that that person had to start randomly firing, it definitely was.

No it's thought that police/guards of the white house killed her.
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Postby Istoreya » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:41 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Istoreya wrote:She was, but unarmed, and possibly pregnant.

Oh. Welp what happened to get her shot and killed?

Another stormer who did take a gun with an absolutely terrible aim, from the looks of it.

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Postby CoraSpia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:41 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
"All we want is for the Capitol police to stand down, and surrender the building to us," says one man to news cameras, as he is filmed by other Trump supporters.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/electio ... type=share

Fucking lol. Completely delusional.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:41 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
New haven america wrote:


So... your point is that they get to not have and use a military because others secure their borders, and they can't even have the intellectual integrity to support those others?

Just posted some facts on the Norwegian ethnostate and oil revenues. Would love to hear your opinion.


You're missing my point, which is Norway doesn't try to install regime change every few years when a country opposes them.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:42 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Well, hopefully these protests end before anyone dies. Pence already has told them to leave the building, and Trump has ordered the national guard, so at least they'll ensure peace.

Wonder if these will be classified as peaceful as the Euromaidan and the BLM protests.

someone has died. A mother possibly pregent was shot and killed.
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Postby Phaenix » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:42 pm

Looks like government forces are pushing the mob back, or at least beginning too according to live coverage by CBS.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:42 pm

1. So... your point is that they get to not have and use a military because others secure their borders, and they can't even have the intellectual integrity to support those others?

2. Just posted some facts on the Norwegian ethnostate and oil revenues. Would love to hear your opinion.[/quote]
1. Actually, me and Grav has just checked, Norway is one of the only NATO members to meet it's required spending.
2. Well they're not an ethno-state and they make less oil money than the US does, so...
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Postby The Federal Government of Iowa » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:42 pm

I am a Trump supporter, I believe that his policies have been largely good and correct, even though his attitude is terrible and he says dumb s###. But honestly, f### these rioters. These bastards don't represent conservativism or Republicans, people who truly like this country would not do what they're doing. F### them, they should all be tried and killed for this siege.
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