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Greed and Death
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:49 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:

DCNG hasn't been called into federal service, DOD has no say in the matter. Twitter rando is full of shit.

Nationalizing the guard puts it under federal control. Ie the DOD.

Before it was nationalized the guard could been called forth by the mayor of DC.
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Postby Esalia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:49 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Because it is a coup and this type of action is beyond unacceptable

That's YOUR opinion.


Obviously it's San Lumen's opinion, he said it.
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Postby Esalia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:49 pm



Jesus, he looked really scared.
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Postby Cordel One » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:49 pm


I wonder why that would be. Hmm...

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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:49 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Gravlen wrote:He didn't look like a guy who *let them* walk by. He looked scared. Really frightened :(


I thought police in America expressed fear with gunfire though.

Not necessarily when faced with white people.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:49 pm

Why are these cops even on the payroll? Is taking action against literal terrorists and coupers not part of their fucking job description?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:50 pm

Greater Kopmakia wrote:
Esalia wrote:
He hasn't tweeted that they should stop what they're doing, just that they be peaceful about it.

Which is okay and all, but a) he could tell them to stop entirely not just be peaceful, and b) he could've not falsely contested the election and whip his base up and feed them lies to a point where this happens.

He did not do the best he could, assuming you are being serious and not sarcastic about this.


wh- falsely? theres too much evidence for there not to have been at least SOME fraud. full on videos of them pulling out boxes of ballots and continuing to count after ppl left a few months ago, and theyre claiming that theres 130% rate for biden which should be statistically impossible.

You are aware that those specific claims were all shown to be false rather convincingly, right ?
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Postby Loben III » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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in what way is this a coup, have they taken over key infrastructure?


They breached the Capitol. A literal definition of a coup


the capital is breached every day when in session by self serving bastards and whores calling themselves senators and representatives.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:50 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Because it is a coup and this type of action is beyond unacceptable

That's YOUR opinion.

You support what’s going on right now? Shame on you! This is a insurrection
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:50 pm

Please stop comparing this to the March on Rome, if anyone’s doing it
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Postby Nejii » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:50 pm

Newsmax and CNN have some juicy footage. ‘Bloody hell...

Tear gas, smoke grenades, fistfights, shootings, this is... mm...
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Postby Nejii » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Please stop comparing this to the March on Rome, if anyone’s doing it

I second this. More of a Beer Hall Putsch.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 pm

They literally barricaded the door to the Senate chamber.

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Postby Wymondham » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 pm

This is the first time I have ever posted in NSG. I am just shocked. I've always held a great deal of respect for the USA, but this truly makes me sad. As much as those of us in the UK, across the great pond, joke about finding you American's intolerable and annoying, the vast majority of us hold a great deal of affection or our american cousins. It saddens me greatly to see such a bastion of democracy reduced to this, and I truly hope that America recovers from this.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 pm

Grenartia wrote:Why are these cops even on the payroll? Is taking action against literal terrorists and coupers not part of their fucking job description?


As several people, including myself, mentioned earlier - had the protesters been black, the capitol would now be red.
Sofar it seems only a single - possibly pregnant - woman was shot.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 pm

Vassenor wrote:So when can we expect Trump to actually condemn all this?


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Postby Torisakia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 pm

Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
They breached the Capitol. A literal definition of a coup


the capital is breached every day when in session by self serving bastards and whores calling themselves senators and representatives.

Yeah but this is one of the few times where actually violence is involved.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 pm


I told you all a lot of police support the coup.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 pm

Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
They breached the Capitol. A literal definition of a coup


the capital is breached every day when in session by self serving bastards and whores calling themselves senators and representatives.

You sound like a neo-Francoist right now.
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 pm

Nejii wrote:Newsmax and CNN have some juicy footage. ‘Bloody hell...

Tear gas, smoke grenades, fistfights, shootings, this is... mm...

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:DCNG hasn't been called into federal service, DOD has no say in the matter. Twitter rando is full of shit.

Nationalizing the guard puts it under federal control. Ie the DOD.

Before it was nationalized the guard could been called forth by the mayor of DC.


Nope. DCNG reports directly to the President.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:52 pm

CNN reporting Virginia state police being sent to DC.

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Postby Grenartia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:52 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Why are these cops even on the payroll? Is taking action against literal terrorists and coupers not part of their fucking job description?


As several people, including myself, mentioned earlier - had the protesters been black, the capitol would now be red.


Oh, absolutely.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:52 pm

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Loben III wrote:
the capital is breached every day when in session by self serving bastards and whores calling themselves senators and representatives.

You sound like a neo-Francoist right now.

I am sure History will call what comes from this a Trumpist form of government.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:52 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Please stop comparing this to the March on Rome, if anyone’s doing it


Why?

Because you think the March on Rome was respectable compared to this?

If so, I'm sure many of the more historically aware posters here would savour the implications of that comparison.

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