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Postby Maineiacs » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter



Embarrassingly, I was about to ask if you were serious. :oops:
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Postby Andsed » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter

Yay.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter

Has he actually?
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Postby Solarampa » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter


The cheese stands alone.


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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Because it is a coup and this type of action is beyond unacceptable

That's YOUR opinion.

Are you for real? You think this is acceptable?

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:Now now, us Calis are sitting over here being peaceful and all.

Oh wait, there are crowds at our capitol as well...

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article248312575.html
It's not too bad here.

True, our side of the dirt patch is a little less rowdy.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm

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San Lumen wrote:The Republican Party should tell his base they don’t want their votes if they are going to do things like this


Why would they do that? This has been an amusing round of more-peaceful-than-usual protests, and the sheer terror and cringe-worthy proclamations of ‘coup’ warm the cockles of my aging heart.

It’s at least a riot. Definitely not a coup
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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter

:lol:

Also, Pence is promising to prosecute the people responsible for this "attack".
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Postby Istoreya » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm

Gravlen wrote:

He didn't look like a guy who *let them* walk by. He looked scared. Really frightened :(

I know, right? I feel really bad for him. Where's the other police? Why is it one dude left alone to get pushed around like that? :(

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:


And again:

The Archregimancy wrote:A) The House of Commons protesters weren't involved in the selection of the Prime Minister.

B) The House of Commons protesters didn't have guns, and no one was shot.


Indeed the violance does take it to another level. I'd be surious if any lawmakers were shot or if it was a less-lethal round from police etc. BTW I'm sorry I didn't see your first post, it's difficult to keep track with such a quickly developing topic.
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Postby Chan Island » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm

Torisakia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:A armed insurrection and coup attempt

Although would it really be a coup if they're attempting to keep the existing government in place rather than remove it? Unless the definition of a coup d'etat has changed.


It is if you come at it from the point of view of Biden being the elected president.

So, it's like a pre-emptive coup.
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Postby Baloo Kingdom » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter

Its the Trump Party now, it never was the Republican Party I guess.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm

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Stellar Colonies wrote:California's population alone is more than Canada's, so it would ultimately be dominated by us anyway.


The Queen is currently boarding Air Force Swan to come over there and give you all a properly smacked botty.

Too late. The tea has been dumped into the harbor.
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Postby Esalia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm

Greater Kopmakia wrote:
Esalia wrote:
He hasn't tweeted that they should stop what they're doing, just that they be peaceful about it.

Which is okay and all, but a) he could tell them to stop entirely not just be peaceful, and b) he could've not falsely contested the election and whip his base up and feed them lies to a point where this happens.

He did not do the best he could, assuming you are being serious and not sarcastic about this.


wh- falsely? theres too much evidence for there not to have been at least SOME fraud. full on videos of them pulling out boxes of ballots and continuing to count after ppl left a few months ago, and theyre claiming that theres 130% rate for biden which should be statistically impossible.


Yes, falsely. Trump was claiming even before any vote was cast that the election was going to be rigged with no evidence for it. Trump's own people have called this election safe, and I see no reason why they would go against Trump other than because Trump's lies are so blatant not even they could go along with it.

Trump's entire claims and basis for it are false. He was not cheated out of victory by fraud, he lost, plain and simple.

Now, maybe, maybe you can dig around and find a few instances of a few fraudulent votes. Maybe. I haven't seen any. But I am confident in stating that absolutely no fraud on the scale Trump claims (or needs it to be for his claims to have a basis) occurred.
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Postby Rusozak » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm

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Postby Loben III » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Why would they do that? This has been an amusing round of more-peaceful-than-usual protests, and the sheer terror and cringe-worthy proclamations of ‘coup’ warm the cockles of my aging heart.

Because it is a coup and this type of action is beyond unacceptable


in what way is this a coup, have they taken over key infrastructure?
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Torisakia
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Postby Torisakia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:That's YOUR opinion.

Are you for real? You think this is acceptable?

Some people might say a coup would be acceptable if it was to remove an oppressive regime. Obviously that's not happening here, but it's an example.
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Esalia
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Postby Esalia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:48 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So when can we expect Trump to actually condemn all this?

He did say a thing about being peaceful, that's probably the most anyone would get out of him.


From someone who is probably the individual most responsible for this situation, it's like setting a house on fire and then throwing a bottle of water on it after the fire's engulfed everything.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:48 pm

Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Because it is a coup and this type of action is beyond unacceptable


in what way is this a coup, have they taken over key infrastructure?


They breached the Capitol. A literal definition of a coup

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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:48 pm

Esalia wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:The usual double standard, no surprise. You seem to only condemn violence when it’s the opposition


There's a big difference between antifa and this.

I don't recall a time antifa literally broke into the capitol in an attempt to stop a legitimate democratic process.


Of course, Trump supporters on parler are now claiming that this is all a false flag by Antifa.
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:48 pm

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Postby Torisakia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:48 pm

Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Because it is a coup and this type of action is beyond unacceptable


in what way is this a coup, have they taken over key infrastructure?

I mean storming the Capitol seems like taking over key infrastructure.
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Postby Dresderstan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:49 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:That's YOUR opinion.

Are you for real? You think this is acceptable?

Because this is not a coup.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:49 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter

Lmao

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