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San Lumen
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:41 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And the party needs to tell them to go to hell.


Nah mate. Shit was funny af.

Jars upon jars of tears for the long dark ahead.

The Republican Party should tell his base they don’t want their votes if they are going to do things like this

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:41 pm

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:41 pm

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Dresderstan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Nah mate. Shit was funny af.

Jars upon jars of tears for the long dark ahead.

The Republican Party should tell his base they don’t want their votes if they are going to do things like this

Well too bad.

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Ex-Nation

Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 pm

Greater Kopmakia wrote:
Esalia wrote:
He hasn't tweeted that they should stop what they're doing, just that they be peaceful about it.

Which is okay and all, but a) he could tell them to stop entirely not just be peaceful, and b) he could've not falsely contested the election and whip his base up and feed them lies to a point where this happens.

He did not do the best he could, assuming you are being serious and not sarcastic about this.


wh- falsely? theres too much evidence for there not to have been at least SOME fraud. full on videos of them pulling out boxes of ballots and continuing to count after ppl left a few months ago, and theyre claiming that theres 130% rate for biden which should be statistically impossible.

Using gish gallop by throwing out as much bullshit as possible doesn't make something true.
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Chist.

Should canada just come in and annex the US now?

California's population alone is more than Canada's, so it would ultimately be dominated by us anyway.


The Queen is currently boarding Air Force Swan to come over there and give you all a properly smacked botty.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 pm

Vassenor wrote:So when can we expect Trump to actually condemn all this?

He did say a thing about being peaceful, that's probably the most anyone would get out of him.
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Postby Pretty Much God » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:43 pm

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Come the season premiere for Season 2021, and god the producer could not have captured my attention better. Can't wait for the civil war plotline to start this season or next season.
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:43 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Cultural Posadism wrote:They are exponentially worse than antifa and they've always been worse than antifa. You were on the wrong side all along. Happy reaping.

The usual double standard, no surprise. You seem to only condemn violence when it’s the opposition

I have no problem with condemning left-wing violence, but American leftists didn't storm the capitol today because they were having a collective psychotic break over fake claims of electoral fraud. Trumpists like you did.

I don’t believe there is a right and wrong side of history because our perception of history changes with the times

That's nice, but we're not talking about the politics of Pride & Prejudice. We're talking about stuff that's happening right now, stuff that you and others helped enable by supporting Trump and his cult.
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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:44 pm


He didn't look like a guy who *let them* walk by. He looked scared. Really frightened :(
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Nah mate. Shit was funny af.

Jars upon jars of tears for the long dark ahead.

The Republican Party should tell his base they don’t want their votes if they are going to do things like this


Why would they do that? This has been an amusing round of more-peaceful-than-usual protests, and the sheer terror and cringe-worthy proclamations of ‘coup’ warm the cockles of my aging heart.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:44 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:California's population alone is more than Canada's, so it would ultimately be dominated by us anyway.


The Queen is currently boarding Air Force Swan to come over there and give you all a properly smacked botty.

Now now, us Calis are sitting over here being peaceful and all.

Oh wait, there are crowds at our capitol as well...
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.

North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.

The Confederacy & the WA.

Add 1200 years.

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:44 pm

Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:44 pm

Gravlen wrote:

He didn't look like a guy who *let them* walk by. He looked scared. Really frightened :(


I thought police in America expressed fear with gunfire though.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:45 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:Trump is promising to pardon them all.

Stop it now. This is not even remotely funny

Which part.
That we almost had a coup?
That few if any will be punished for it, because Trump rewards loyalist with pardons like it is candy ?

That even if the coup is prevented and a few people are prosecuted that violence going forward will be used to make passage of future laws difficult.

I think the only reason it upsets you is you know I am right.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:45 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I get the joy of remembering both.




Are you old enough to remember when we thought the Challenger disaster was the worst thing we'd ever have to witness? Now even 9/11 isn't the worst thing we've had to witness.


I was in HS when my Dad asked me into his den to witness the 1968 Police riot in Chicago at the Dem convention. This is something of am antithesis. Very few cops, right wing extremists instead of hippies. Bizzaro world.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter

Lmao
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:45 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The Republican Party should tell his base they don’t want their votes if they are going to do things like this


Why would they do that? This has been an amusing round of more-peaceful-than-usual protests, and the sheer terror and cringe-worthy proclamations of ‘coup’ warm the cockles of my aging heart.

Because it is a coup and this type of action is beyond unacceptable
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Postby Omniabstracta » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter

The ultimate sign of our times.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter


The cheese stands alone.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

The Baltimore Orioles are shocking the baseball world!

Jerzylvania is the NFL Picks League Champion in 2018 and in 2020 as puppet Traffic Signal and AGAIN in 2023 as puppet Joe Munchkin !!!

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:45 pm

Have the brave patriots starting saying 1984 yet.
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Postby Boda » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter

source?
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Postby Cordel One » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
The Queen is currently boarding Air Force Swan to come over there and give you all a properly smacked botty.

Now now, us Calis are sitting over here being peaceful and all.

Oh wait, there are crowds at our capitol as well...

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article248312575.html
It's not too bad here.

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Postby Cultural Posadism » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Pence has unfollowed Trump on Twitter

lmao
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Postby Dresderstan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 pm

San Lumen wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Why would they do that? This has been an amusing round of more-peaceful-than-usual protests, and the sheer terror and cringe-worthy proclamations of ‘coup’ warm the cockles of my aging heart.

Because it is a coup and this type of action is beyond unacceptable

That's YOUR opinion.

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