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Kiu Ghesik
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:28 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Nobody's getting decapitated, though.


No, just shot.

Which is terrible...no matter the political ideology, there is always a pocket of craziness.
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SD_Film Artists
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Father Knows Best State

Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:28 pm

-Ra- wrote:Never in my lifetime would I have ever imagined the capitol of the most prosperous democracy on Earth being stormed by hooligans, thugs and plain-clothed Nazis.

I am genuinely afraid for the continuation of the liberal democratic world order.


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The Archregimancy wrote:Imagine that these scenes were being played out in Africa or Latin America; what would you be saying then?

This is an utter disgrace.

I thought I was beyond being shocked at this stage; yet I've apparently rediscovered my ability to be shocked.

We are watching the moral authority of the United States collapse in real time.


How is this different from the House of Commons getting stormed by pro-hunting activists? The scale, the fact that it's about an election rather than a single bill or that the president is possibly encouraging it? I'm not denying what you say, I'm just trying to catagorise this event since I am passed being shocked. I think I will be shocked if the protesters actualy achieve anything beyond delying the procedings for a day.
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Asherahan
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Postby Asherahan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:28 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:It speaks volumes that Trump is not even trying to calm the situation.

Please he did the best he could.

He tweeted that they should stop.
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:29 pm

American History and Historiography; Political and Labour History, Urbanism, Political Parties, Congressional Procedure, Elections.

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San Lumen
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:29 pm


This a coup attempt plain and simple

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Esalia
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Postby Esalia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:29 pm

So, I guess 2021 is shaping up to be "2020 Hard Mode", and is not holding back.
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Baloo Kingdom
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Baloo Kingdom » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:29 pm

Loben III wrote:
Baloo Kingdom wrote:Imagine if the United States doesn't collapse.

its what we deserve

Turns out the whole thing was Ohio's idea
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Cultural Posadism
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:29 pm

be gay do crime

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Loben III
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Postby Loben III » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:29 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
Loben III wrote:
answer the question


No; I'm not playing that game with you.


you could be polite as to include my entire reply
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Neutraligon
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Neutraligon » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:29 pm

Faraby wrote:Will we remember where we were on this day like we (or our parents or older siblings) remember where we were on 9/11?

I get the joy of remembering both.
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Andsed
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Postby Andsed » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:30 pm


As I said this was going to spread.
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Celritannia
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Celritannia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:30 pm

-Ra- wrote:Never in my lifetime would I have ever imagined the capitol of the most prosperous democracy on Earth being stormed by hooligans, thugs and plain-clothed Nazis.

I am genuinely afraid for the continuation of the liberal democratic world order.


I would not call the US the most prosperous democracy.

But it is horrendous that these terrorists think they can do this.

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Dumb Ideologies
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:30 pm

I hope the protestors are socially distancing.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:30 pm

Andsed wrote:

As I said this was going to spread.

The crowd is apparently small in Atlanta.

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The Archregimancy
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Democratic Socialists

Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:31 pm

Loben III wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
No; I'm not playing that game with you.


you could be polite as to include my entire reply


Almost uniquely in NSG, you are not an individual towards whom I believe rules of common courtesy apply.

I shan't waste my time replying further.
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Cultural Posadism
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:31 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:Okay, cops are definitely clearing the building now. Pepper spray and riot shields have come out.

Funnily enough the protestors are bitching and moaning about it.

Trumpists fucking around and finding out.

They thought voraciously licking boots would make them immune to the police state.
be gay do crime

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:31 pm

American History and Historiography; Political and Labour History, Urbanism, Political Parties, Congressional Procedure, Elections.

Servant of The Democracy since 1896.


Historian, of sorts.

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San Lumen
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Founded: Jul 02, 2009
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:32 pm


Montgomery and prince George’s county police on the way too according to cnn.

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Esalia
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Founded: Oct 22, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Esalia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:32 pm

SD_Film Artists wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:Imagine that these scenes were being played out in Africa or Latin America; what would you be saying then?

This is an utter disgrace.

I thought I was beyond being shocked at this stage; yet I've apparently rediscovered my ability to be shocked.

We are watching the moral authority of the United States collapse in real time.


How is this different from the House of Commons getting stormed by pro-hunting activists? The scale, the fact that it's about an election rather than a single bill or that the president is possibly encouraging it? I'm not denying what you say, I'm just trying to catagorise this event since I am passed being shocked. I think I will be shocked if the protesters actualy achieve anything beyond delying the procedings for a day.


I'm not Archregimancy, but what scares me about all of this is the potential precedent.

It's what scares me the most about any of Trump's post-election antics. Not that he'll succeed doing them (he hasn't, and it was unlikely from the start that he would), but that he opens the door to much more competent people pulling the same shit.

And now, we have a man who whipped his base into a frenzy watch as they storm the capitol with the intention not to oppose one singular bill, but to oppose democracy itself, and the best thing he has to say is "be peaceful guys!".
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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:33 pm

Andsed wrote:

As I said this was going to spread.

You were right, I'm sorry for calling you paranoid.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:33 pm

What in the actual fuck is going on

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SD_Film Artists
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Father Knows Best State

Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:33 pm

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:Okay, cops are definitely clearing the building now. Pepper spray and riot shields have come out.

Funnily enough the protestors are bitching and moaning about it.

Trumpists fucking around and finding out.

They thought voraciously licking boots would make them immune to the police state.


Where's BLM when you need them? Surely they'll save the trumpists from the police! :roll:
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Torisakia
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Torisakia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:33 pm

Don't mind me. Just some boy who doesn't believe in anything and is just here to watch how things play out coming through.

Good luck though.
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Nuroblav
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Postby Nuroblav » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:33 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:I hope the protestors are socially distancing.

"Now before we storm this building guys, I just wanna ensure that we are following the current safety rules. Don't wanna catch Covid while we're running around, do we?"
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