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-Ra-
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Postby -Ra- » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:25 pm

Never in my lifetime would I have ever imagined the capitol of the most prosperous democracy on Earth being stormed by hooligans, thugs and plain-clothed Nazis.

I am genuinely afraid for the continuation of the liberal democratic world order.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:25 pm

It’s not a civil war yet y’all.

Also congress can meet a site R which is probably where they are headed
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Postby Loben III » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:26 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
Loben III wrote:
What moral authority?


You disgust me.


answer the question, what moral authority?

many others answered the same way so why do i disgust you?
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Postby Everhall » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:26 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:It speaks volumes that Trump is not even trying to calm the situation.

He threw out a tweet into the darkness. Fucking useless

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Western Fardelshufflestein
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:26 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I don't recall Antifa seizing legislative chambers. You can cut it out with the desperate BUT BOTH SIDES ARE EQUALLY BAD horseshit now.


Antifa is equivalent at worst to football hooligans. These guys are basically white ISIS.

Nobody's getting decapitated, though.
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Postby Cordel One » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:26 pm

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:There’s no way to defend these people they’re as bad as antifa and are hurting the conservative movement now

They are exponentially worse than antifa and they've always been worse than antifa. You were on the wrong side all along. Happy reaping.

Too late, KK.

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Postby Jedi Council » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:26 pm

-Ra- wrote:Never in my lifetime would I have ever imagined the capitol of the most prosperous democracy on Earth being stormed by hooligans, thugs and plain-clothed Nazis.

I am genuinely afraid for the continuation of the liberal democratic world order.

You do realize this is a culmination of indulging Trump right? Something you have been all for if I remember correctly
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:26 pm

be gay do crime

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Postby Untecna » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:26 pm

There is no war in Ba Sing Se,

There is no civil war in the USA,

We are not in trouble,

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Postby Rusozak » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:26 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
No State Here wrote:Tfw KK and Ra are condemning Trump


That's how you know this is the end.


It probably feels like how the denizens of the Fuhrerbunker on April 29th 1945 felt to the Trumpers.
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-Ra-
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Postby -Ra- » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:27 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
-Ra- wrote:Never in my lifetime would I have ever imagined the capitol of the most prosperous democracy on Earth being stormed by hooligans, thugs and plain-clothed Nazis.

I am genuinely afraid for the continuation of the liberal democratic world order.

You do realize this is a culmination of indulging Trump right? Something you have been all for if I remember correctly

I mildly supported Trump before the election. I was wrong and I'll be the first to say I'm sorry. I'm not American so it matters little, but holy fuck I did fuck up.

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The Archregimancy
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:27 pm

SD_Film Artists wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:Imagine that these scenes were being played out in Africa or Latin America; what would you be saying then?

This is an utter disgrace.

I thought I was beyond being shocked at this stage; yet I've apparently rediscovered my ability to be shocked.

We are watching the moral authority of the United States collapse in real time.


How is this different from the House of Commons getting stormed by pro-hunting activists? The scale, the fact that it's about an election rather than a single bill or that the president is possibly encourraing it? I'm not denying what you say, I'm just trying to catagorise this event since I am passed being shocked. I think I will be shocked if the protesters actualy achieve anything beyond delying the procedings for a day.


A) The House of Commons protesters weren't involved in the selection of the Prime Minister.

B) The House of Commons protesters didn't have guns, and no one was shot.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:27 pm

As can be expected, the trending tab on Twitter is filled with references to...uh...whatever is happening on the other side of the continent.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:27 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Antifa is equivalent at worst to football hooligans. These guys are basically white ISIS.

Nobody's getting decapitated, though.


No, just shot.
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Conservative Republic Of Huang
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:27 pm

Maybe we'll turn into post-Francoist Spain after this, with periodic attempted Trumpist coups.
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Postby Orange-Bourgogne » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:27 pm

The BBC now confirms that shots have been fired within the Capitol.
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Loben III
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Postby Loben III » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:27 pm

-Ra- wrote:Never in my lifetime would I have ever imagined the capitol of the most prosperous democracy on Earth being stormed by hooligans, thugs and plain-clothed Nazis.

I am genuinely afraid for the continuation of the liberal democratic world order.


the liberal democratic world order has been nothing but a unmitigated disaster for the past 3 years.

it has enslaved various peoples to the whims of the moneyed few who buy wars that kill thousands and displace millions.
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The Archregimancy
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Democratic Socialists

Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:27 pm

Loben III wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
You disgust me.


answer the question


No; I'm not playing that game with you.
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:27 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
That's how you know this is the end.


It probably feels like how the denizens of the Fuhrerbunker on April 29th 1945 felt to the Trumpers.

It's cowardly face-saving bullshit.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:28 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
That's how you know this is the end.


It probably feels like how the denizens of the Fuhrerbunker on April 29th 1945 felt to the Trumpers.

It's got more in common with the atmosphere in the Georgian SSR in 1956 tbh. After the collapse of Stalin's cult of personality.
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Postby Dresderstan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:28 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
Loben III wrote:
answer the question


No.

Then that's YOUR problem.

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Faraby
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Postby Faraby » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:28 pm

-Ra- wrote:Never in my lifetime would I have ever imagined the capitol of the most prosperous democracy on Earth being stormed by hooligans, thugs and plain-clothed Nazis.

I am genuinely afraid for the continuation of the liberal democratic world order.


What particularly struck out to me were the Confederate flags. In the United States Capitol.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:28 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:It speaks volumes that Trump is not even trying to calm the situation.


He did tweet a few things:

I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!

Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!

Of course, just after protestors entered the capitol he also tweeted his permission to kill Pence:

Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
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Jedi Council
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Postby Jedi Council » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:28 pm

-Ra- wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:You do realize this is a culmination of indulging Trump right? Something you have been all for if I remember correctly

I mildly supported Trump before the election. I was wrong and I'll be the first to say I'm sorry. I'm not American so it matters little, but holy fuck I did fuck up.

Too little too late bucko
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Conservative Republic Of Huang
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:28 pm

Loben III wrote:
-Ra- wrote:Never in my lifetime would I have ever imagined the capitol of the most prosperous democracy on Earth being stormed by hooligans, thugs and plain-clothed Nazis.

I am genuinely afraid for the continuation of the liberal democratic world order.


the liberal democratic world order has been nothing but a unmitigated disaster for the past 3 years.

it has enslaved various peoples to the whims of the moneyed few who buy wars that kill thousands and displace millions.

When the alternative is strongman rule...
Pro: Direct democracy, e-democracy, parliamentary sovereignty, state secularism, non-violent direct action (striking), police reform, syndicalism, democratic workplace management
Anti: Most types of representative democracy, ultra-nationalism, imperialism, autocratic workplace management, the state

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say syndicalism now, syndicalism tomorrow, syndicalism forever."
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