American Politics I: It's All Applesauce

[Atheris]

Does Emperor Norton have any descendants?

Not that anyone is aware of.

The throne is ripe for pretenders.

Or, or;

We could go full North Korea and have him rule in a necrocracy.

[Valrifell]

Absolue Monarchy; Ultimate decision is made by one prime figurehead. Bad monarchs can be offset by good or even great monarchs. This also is the modern age and a modern monarchy shouldn't be cursed by the likes of inbreeding, poor medical treatment, cherry-picked education, and etcetera.

Democratic Republic: Bureaucracy has more power in this system. Stacked cabinets, rigged elections, more prone to insurgency, riots, and unrest. A constant whirlwind of power shifts. I could go on.

When I was younger I was all about democracy but in the past five to ten years I've seen just how messy and diluted democracy can get.

One bad monarch topples the state, we've seen this play out repeatedly in history. One bad prime minister or president and everything functions as intended.

Though I will say I am not surprised thst your commitment to cool ideals like democracy is waning. Particularly considering you, like many NSGers, seem to fall into the trap where you think yourself loads smarter than the layman.

[Omniabstracta]

Absolue Monarchy; Ultimate decision is made by one prime figurehead. Bad monarchs can be offset by good or even great monarchs. This also is the modern age and a modern monarchy shouldn't be cursed by the likes of inbreeding, poor medical treatment, cherry-picked education, and etcetera.

Democratic Republic: Bureaucracy has more power in this system. Stacked cabinets, rigged elections, more prone to insurgency, riots, and unrest. A constant whirlwind of power shifts. I could go on.

When I was younger I was all about democracy but in the past five to ten years I've seen just how messy and diluted democracy can get.

An absolute monarch doesn’t get to rule and retain power just because, they have powerful interests to appease in the military, in the upper economic strata, and yes, in the bureaucracy, because no one man can rule an entire country (certainly not one as large as the US), and in a top-down system the bureaucracy often needs to be even larger and more powerful than it would otherwise be. At least in a broken democracy these interests are spread out among many and at least marginally aligned with the interests of the population, in an absolute monarchy even this facade is non-existent and the state will very rapidly and very easily leave the interests of anyone without power by the wayside.

Corruption, scheming, power struggles, inefficiency, popular revolt, and more—there’s a reason why absolute monarchy has been all but abandoned as a functional form of government for a very long time and why strongman dictatorships are overwhelmingly often not very nice places to live.

[Cannot think of a name]

Based and monarchy pilled. The American Empire must rise. But who shall be the ruler?

Does Emperor Norton have any descendants?

I look a lot like him.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Absolue Monarchy; Ultimate decision is made by one prime figurehead. Bad monarchs can be offset by good or even great monarchs. This also is the modern age and a modern monarchy shouldn't be cursed by the likes of inbreeding, poor medical treatment, cherry-picked education, and etcetera.

Democratic Republic: Bureaucracy has more power in this system. Stacked cabinets, rigged elections, more prone to insurgency, riots, and unrest. A constant whirlwind of power shifts. I could go on.

When I was younger I was all about democracy but in the past five to ten years I've seen just how messy and diluted democracy can get.

With the current direction you seem to be heading ideology-wise, I can recommend a good read in TGs if you want

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

I'm wanting an absolute monarchy at this point.

Gross, absolute monarchy. Sounds like you’re just wanting people to be lorded over and oppressed more than anything since that’s what an absolute monarchy entails.

A people's democracy is an illusion.

It’s only an illusion to a lot of authoritarians who are simply tired of the masses not bowing down to the power they want imposed over said masses.

[Nejii]

Absolue Monarchy; Ultimate decision is made by one prime figurehead. Bad monarchs can be offset by good or even great monarchs. This also is the modern age and a modern monarchy shouldn't be cursed by the likes of inbreeding, poor medical treatment, cherry-picked education, and etcetera.

Democratic Republic: Bureaucracy has more power in this system. Stacked cabinets, rigged elections, more prone to insurgency, riots, and unrest. A constant whirlwind of power shifts. I could go on.

When I was younger I was all about democracy but in the past five to ten years I've seen just how messy and diluted democracy can get.

One bad monarch topples the state, we've seen this play out repeatedly in history. One bad prime minister or president and everything functions as intended.

Though I will say I am not surprised thst your commitment to cool ideals like democracy is waning. Particularly considering you, like many NSGers, seem to fall into the trap where you think yourself loads smarter than the layman.

Hmm, a smug personal attack when I made a simple point. Trust me, I don't consider myself smarter than the laymen. And as for toppling the state, let us view upon the political chaos of the democracy that is the USA. And several European democracies. Woe on the division.

[Nejii]

Geez, who would have thought a mellow-dramatic moment of "bring back the monarchies" would hit so many leftists nerves.

[The Giant Space Wyrm]

Geez, who would have thought a mellow-dramatic moment of "bring back the monarchies" would hit so many leftists nerves.

Well I mean if ya want to live in Tonga so badly why don't ya?

[Cannot think of a name]

Geez, who would have thought a mellow-dramatic moment of "bring back the monarchies" would hit so many leftists nerves.

It's just that it's so very tired every time some edgy teenager comes up with it again as if nooooo one ever suggested it before.

[Nejii]

Absolue Monarchy; Ultimate decision is made by one prime figurehead. Bad monarchs can be offset by good or even great monarchs. This also is the modern age and a modern monarchy shouldn't be cursed by the likes of inbreeding, poor medical treatment, cherry-picked education, and etcetera.

Democratic Republic: Bureaucracy has more power in this system. Stacked cabinets, rigged elections, more prone to insurgency, riots, and unrest. A constant whirlwind of power shifts. I could go on.

When I was younger I was all about democracy but in the past five to ten years I've seen just how messy and diluted democracy can get.

An absolute monarch doesn’t get to rule and retain power just because, they have powerful interests to appease in the military, in the upper economic strata, and yes, in the bureaucracy, because no one man can rule an entire country (certainly not one as large as the US), and in a top-down system the bureaucracy often needs to be even larger and more powerful than it would otherwise be. At least in a broken democracy these interests are spread out among many and at least marginally aligned with the interests of the population, in an absolute monarchy even this facade is non-existent and the state will very rapidly and very easily leave the interests of anyone without power by the wayside.

Corruption, scheming, power struggles, inefficiency, popular revolt, and more—there’s a reason why absolute monarchy has been all but abandoned as a functional form of government for a very long time and why strongman dictatorships are overwhelmingly often not very nice places to live.

Well to be fair, the democratic US is boiling over with the corruption, scheming, and power struggles. And with election tampering nowadays, do we even have true representative democracy in the US these days. In all honesty, I think the US is just an example of a failing democracy. Many democracies do indeed flourish.

[Nejii]

Geez, who would have thought a mellow-dramatic moment of "bring back the monarchies" would hit so many leftists nerves.

It's just that it's so very tired every time some edgy teenager comes up with it again as if nooooo one ever suggested it before.

Is it that common?

EDIT: I may be misinterpreting but I'm no edgy teenager. I'm just a common working man creeping in on my mid-twenties.

[The Black Forrest]

It's just that it's so very tired every time some edgy teenager comes up with it again as if nooooo one ever suggested it before.

Is it that common?

EDIT: I may be misinterpreting but I'm no edgy teenager. I'm just a common working man creeping in on my mid-twenties.

Well? If teen is part of your age number.....

[Nejii]

Is it that common?

EDIT: I may be misinterpreting but I'm no edgy teenager. I'm just a common working man creeping in on my mid-twenties.

Well? If teen is part of your age number.....

Twenty-four thank you.

[Cannot think of a name]

Well? If teen is part of your age number.....

Twenty-four thank you.

Everyone develops at their own pace...

[The Giant Space Wyrm]

We should really cut teenagers some slack. Adults are fully capable of equal amounts of political stupidity and shenanigans.

I mean there are no teenagers in government are there?

[Nejii]

Twenty-four thank you.

Everyone develops at their own pace...

Yes they do. So don't you, I, nor anyone else need worry.

[Kowani]

We should really cut teenagers some slack. Adults are fully capable of equal amounts of political stupidity and shenanigans.

I mean there are no teenagers in government are there?

The youngest I can think is Aaron Coleman, at 20.

Also, he’s a vile creep whose biggest accomplishment was revenge porn.
So perhaps not someone we should look up to.

[Nejii]

We should really cut teenagers some slack. Adults are fully capable of equal amounts of political stupidity and shenanigans.

I mean there are no teenagers in government are there?

The youngest I can think is Aaron Coleman, at 20.

Also, he’s a vile creep whose biggest accomplishment was revenge porn.
So perhaps not someone we should look up to.

I've never even heard that name. Nothing really significant other than an age accolade then?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Absolue Monarchy; Ultimate decision is made by one prime figurehead. Bad monarchs can be offset by good or even great monarchs. This also is the modern age and a modern monarchy shouldn't be cursed by the likes of inbreeding, poor medical treatment, cherry-picked education, and etcetera.

Democratic Republic: Bureaucracy has more power in this system. Stacked cabinets, rigged elections, more prone to insurgency, riots, and unrest. A constant whirlwind of power shifts. I could go on.

When I was younger I was all about democracy but in the past five to ten years I've seen just how messy and diluted democracy can get.

One bad monarch topples the state, we've seen this play out repeatedly in history. One bad prime minister or president and everything functions as intended.

Though I will say I am not surprised thst your commitment to cool ideals like democracy is waning. Particularly considering you, like many NSGers, seem to fall into the trap where you think yourself loads smarter than the layman.

To be fair many of us probably are smarter than the layman in like America at least. Though not by loads as much as like maybe several inches.

[Kowani]

The youngest I can think is Aaron Coleman, at 20.

Also, he’s a vile creep whose biggest accomplishment was revenge porn.
So perhaps not someone we should look up to.

I've never even heard that name. Nothing really significant other than an age accolade then?

Well, he’s getting a bill passed because of him.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Geez, who would have thought a mellow-dramatic moment of "bring back the monarchies" would hit so many leftists nerves.

They're not offended Nejii. They're confused and for a very good reason, or rather we're confused and for a very good reason.

[Genivaria]

Absolue Monarchy; Ultimate decision is made by one prime figurehead. Bad monarchs can be offset by good or even great monarchs. This also is the modern age and a modern monarchy shouldn't be cursed by the likes of inbreeding, poor medical treatment, cherry-picked education, and etcetera.

Democratic Republic: Bureaucracy has more power in this system. Stacked cabinets, rigged elections, more prone to insurgency, riots, and unrest. A constant whirlwind of power shifts. I could go on.

When I was younger I was all about democracy but in the past five to ten years I've seen just how messy and diluted democracy can get.

An absolute monarch doesn’t get to rule and retain power just because, they have powerful interests to appease in the military, in the upper economic strata, and yes, in the bureaucracy, because no one man can rule an entire country (certainly not one as large as the US), and in a top-down system the bureaucracy often needs to be even larger and more powerful than it would otherwise be. At least in a broken democracy these interests are spread out among many and at least marginally aligned with the interests of the population, in an absolute monarchy even this facade is non-existent and the state will very rapidly and very easily leave the interests of anyone without power by the wayside.

Corruption, scheming, power struggles, inefficiency, popular revolt, and more—there’s a reason why absolute monarchy has been all but abandoned as a functional form of government for a very long time and why strongman dictatorships are overwhelmingly often not very nice places to live.

This idea that alot of people have that all an autocracy needs to be good is a good autocrat denies the reality there's no such thing as a government where ALL power is actually in the hands of one person.
CGP Grey's Rules For Rulers explains it very well.

[Nejii]

One bad monarch topples the state, we've seen this play out repeatedly in history. One bad prime minister or president and everything functions as intended.

Though I will say I am not surprised thst your commitment to cool ideals like democracy is waning. Particularly considering you, like many NSGers, seem to fall into the trap where you think yourself loads smarter than the layman.

To be fair many of us probably are smarter than the layman in like America at least. Though not by loads as much as like maybe several inches.

I don't investigate that option myself. I give anyone at first encounter or limited encounters the courtesy of assumption in being as smart or smarter than myself. I build upon or reshape this opinion as I continue to interact with them. Unfortunately I also exercise my own opinions as well as the occasional joke, which tends to melt the occasional snowflake. I just come here to read, debate, and RP. I don't consider myself some kind of academic. Not saying that you do, I'm just saying.

[Nejii]

Geez, who would have thought a mellow-dramatic moment of "bring back the monarchies" would hit so many leftists nerves.

They're not offended Nejii. They're confused and for a very good reason, or rather we're confused and for a very good reason.

Read the status you just quoted. A jesty moment of mellow drama that was misconstrued. In truth while democracy has it's flaws it's better than the alternatives. I think the US's democratic system is just, as I said above, an example of a crumbling democracy.