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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:36 pm

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:36 pm

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Apparently the israelis and chinese are occupying northwestern Wisconsin. Because that makes total sense

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:36 pm

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Some lads in the comments were really quoting John F. Kennedy´s peaceful revolution quote acting as if their really about actually attempt an uprising lmao.


I still wouldn't discount the chance of random violence but the GOP doing exceptionally better than projected in everything other the presidency helped negate a big part of that risk imo.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:40 pm


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Andsed wrote:Some lads in the comments were really quoting John F. Kennedy´s peaceful revolution quote acting as if their really about actually attempt an uprising lmao.


I still wouldn't discount the chance of random violence but the GOP doing exceptionally better than projected in everything other the presidency helped negate a big part of that risk imo.

Oh I dont doubt random acts of violence occurring, its already happened in some areas, I am more mocking this idea of some coordinated insurgency I have seen some people suggesting. I dont doubt there will be acts of violence and civil unrest, but any kind of actual uprising is just so far fetched to me.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:42 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

Apparently the israelis and chinese are occupying northwestern Wisconsin. Because that makes total sense

He who holds Wisconsin holds the America.

Who'd of though cheese was that important.

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Postby Xanthal » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:45 pm

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Where do people come up with this stuff?

Honestly, I think more than a bit of the inspiration for this strategy comes from alternate history fiction. Take a real situation and players, rewrite the narrative to fit your creative vision, and package it as a true account.

Not that I blame that genre for this, but I don't think its recent popularity was a coincidence.
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:46 pm

Hmm, so Barr is leaving, on the 23rd to be exact, and on the Day the Electoral College voted for Biden. He currently has 302; Trump 232. Only Hawaii hasn't cast their electoral votes. That all but means Trump's options of overturning the results is gone.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:47 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

Apparently the israelis and chinese are occupying northwestern Wisconsin. Because that makes total sense

Very impressive on the Israelis and Chinese part, managing to get past the strongest navy in the world and occupy inland America without the US noticing. Must have some nifty new cloaking devices.
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Postby Xanthal » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:50 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Hmm, so Barr is leaving, on the 23rd to be exact, and on the Day the Electoral College voted for Biden. He currently has 302; Trump 232. Only Hawaii hasn't cast their electoral votes. That all but means Trump's options of overturning the results is gone.

Only if you have faith in the rule of law. Mine is holding, but I gotta say it's not as strong as it was a couple months ago. I don't think he has a realistic path to ultimately hold onto power, but he can cause massive damage to our democracy in the meantime and he's shown no reluctance to do so yet.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:53 pm

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Postby Tokora » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:54 pm

When Trump does kick off his pardon giveaway, is it correct to assume that there's nothing Biden can do to restore law and order when he takes office?

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Postby No State Here » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:55 pm

Xanthal wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Hmm, so Barr is leaving, on the 23rd to be exact, and on the Day the Electoral College voted for Biden. He currently has 302; Trump 232. Only Hawaii hasn't cast their electoral votes. That all but means Trump's options of overturning the results is gone.

Only if you have faith in the rule of law. Mine is holding, but I gotta say it's not as strong as it was a couple months ago. I don't think he has a realistic path to ultimately hold onto power, but he can cause massive damage to our democracy in the meantime and he's shown no reluctance to do so yet.

You gotta thank the separation of powers and the constitution for that, our democracy has gone through the test of time and many hardships, but it has always persevered. There are those who say America isn’t a democracy, sure, but they are then ignoring what the world’s non democratic countries are like, for example:

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:12 pm

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530 ... al-college

Senator John Thune of South Dakota and Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri have acknowledged Biden's win along with Shelly Moore Capito of West Virginia and Rob Portman of Ohio.
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Biden is a commie? Well that would definitely be a M. Night Shyamalan style twist
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:19 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530194-top-gop-senators-acknowledge-biden-as-president-elect-after-electoral-college

Senator John Thune of South Dakota and Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri have acknowledged Biden's win along with Shelly Moore Capito of West Virginia and Rob Portman of Ohio.

And the grift starts to collapse and the GOP begins to finally acknowledge reality, for now.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:20 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530194-top-gop-senators-acknowledge-biden-as-president-elect-after-electoral-college

Senator John Thune of South Dakota and Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri have acknowledged Biden's win along with Shelly Moore Capito of West Virginia and Rob Portman of Ohio.

and so falls the house of cards
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:20 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530194-top-gop-senators-acknowledge-biden-as-president-elect-after-electoral-college

Senator John Thune of South Dakota and Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri have acknowledged Biden's win along with Shelly Moore Capito of West Virginia and Rob Portman of Ohio.

And the grift starts to collapse and the GOP begins to finally acknowledge reality, for now.

It should have happened weeks ago.

How long before Trump attacks them and calls on his supporters to not vote in Georgia ?

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530194-top-gop-senators-acknowledge-biden-as-president-elect-after-electoral-college

Senator John Thune of South Dakota and Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri have acknowledged Biden's win along with Shelly Moore Capito of West Virginia and Rob Portman of Ohio.

And so it begins. By the end of the week the entire senate will have recognized Biden as president elect
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:And the grift starts to collapse and the GOP begins to finally acknowledge reality, for now.

It should have happened weeks ago.

How long before Trump attacks them and calls on his supporters to not vote in Georgia ?

I give it until tomorrow
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:22 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:It should have happened weeks ago.

How long before Trump attacks them and calls on his supporters to not vote in Georgia ?

I give it until tomorrow


It would be nice if he told his base not to vote in the runoff and do the same in future elections.

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:22 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:It should have happened weeks ago.

How long before Trump attacks them and calls on his supporters to not vote in Georgia ?

I give it until tomorrow

If that happens then Trump can go fuck himself. He lost, he doesn’t have to drag the entire conservative movement with him
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