"Holy grail found" as scientists reverses aging by 25 years

[Resilient Acceleration]

To be honest, from the content of the report, I'm not really convinced that it reverse all cells in your body. That is, I don't think 65 y/o face wrinkles will just retract back into a smoother 40 y/o wrinkles. In terms of general health though, it doea seem to be very promising, and most importantly it will buy people more than enough time to wait for new techs to come up.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. It just seemed to good to be believe, so I assumed it just had some more, minor effects.

It also don't cure permanent impairments you might've gotten from aging. What I'm more interested is whether this technology restore your stamina, though. Because if it does, then all my crazy ideas about ending pension/healthcare, freeing up trillions of dollars, and solve like half of modern day issues in a single stroke is all coming together.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Flesh is still weak compared to the glory of the Machine.


It is cool tho, lets see where this research goes

[Resilient Acceleration]

This data might be interesting: US healthcare spending per capita is $10.700 per person in 2017. Of course this doesn't reflect the real situation, as most of the money goes to the elderly. Meanwhile, this treatment costs $1.100 every 25 years, or $44 per elder per year.

Therefore, using some very flawed math and assumption that all the current healthcare spending goes to age-related diseases, it can be argued that if we replace the healthcare system with longevity tech, we will save 99.996 cent out of every dollar currently spent on US healthcare spending. Even if it's lower than that (obviously it is), it'll still be hella substantial. More obviously, it'll be better if I got the data on healthcare spending distribution and start making more substantiated claims. But still.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Some say that the first person who could live forever if they wanted is already alive right now.

His name is Daniel Hernandez, also known as Takashi 6ix9ine, and I know this because somehow he's still alive despite pissing off every criminal in America and ratting on a gang.

[Senkaku]

If they're telling the truth, hyperbaric chambers are about to get way more expensive.

[Neutraligon]

This lengthens telomere's but does that change things like dementia and the such? How about cancer?

[Greed and Death]

Looks like the boomers will have another quarter century of work left in them. Sorry Millennials no jobs opening up for you anytime soon.

[Resilient Acceleration]

This lengthens telomere's but does that change things like dementia and the such? How about cancer?

It cures neither of those. But aging reversal does reduce its likelihood of appearing by a lot, which is substantial especially when we're talking about larger figures.

Looks like the boomers will have another quarter century of work left in them. Sorry Millennials no jobs opening up for you anytime soon.

Welp shit, didn't think it through. Now that I think about it, it might be better if widespread longevity is delayed by, say, 15-20 years.... then again, I don't really have any clue on how the timeline would look like.

[Adamede]

This lengthens telomere's but does that change things like dementia and the such? How about cancer?

I seriously doubt lengthening telomeres would cure those. Especially cancer, as there’s just so many forms and causes of it.

[The Emerald Legion]

The thing I find interesting is that the procedure isn't easily able to be stuck behind some massive paywall. It's oxygen in a tank.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Curing old age is only part of the solution. To solve the problem of overpopulation, we must devise a way to upload our consciousnesses into an ever-expanding, hyper-realistic virtual reality that is about as close to Paradise as one can get and live out the remainder of our never-ending lives as highly customizable avatars while our unconscious, real-world husks wither and die, to be replaced with machines that will be responsible for maintaining our virtual existences and providing a sustainable source of fuel for trillions upon trillions of years. We must merge with artificial intelligence and become post-human.

With the creation of an artificial Heaven, religion will lose its raison d'etre, namely a fear of death, and finally die out completely. Human suffering will be greatly diminished. Indescribable bliss will be all that remains. We will be as gods. The Singularity is Near.

[Alvecia]

Coming to a store near you in the next 5-10 years

Jokes aside, that's pretty cool. Look forward to seeing where this goes, if anywhere.

[Resilient Acceleration]

Reading the link between oxygen overload therapy and genetic processes, I just realized that many of the concepts surprisingly overlaps with concepts mentioned by immortality posterboy and epigenetics researcher Dr. David Sinclair, which I've been following for some time now. So yeah, looks legit for now. Then again, one is concerned about epigenetics while the other is concerned about telomere length, so uh... well, we'll see.

[The Blaatschapen]

Ah, to be 25 years younger.

The benefits: too young to post on NS.

The drawback : too young to drink.

Not sure if I would do it. Can I have half a cure and be 12 years younger.

[Cannot think of a name]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. It just seemed to good to be believe, so I assumed it just had some more, minor effects.

It also don't cure permanent impairments you might've gotten from aging. What I'm more interested is whether this technology restore your stamina, though. Because if it does, then all my crazy ideas about ending pension/healthcare, freeing up trillions of dollars, and solve like half of modern day issues in a single stroke is all coming together.

I think you may not be accounting for finding enough work when the work force doesn’t age out for another 25 years. Also, what a way to undermine the adoption of this. “Live for another 25 years grinding away at your pointless job...FEED THE MACHINE! YOU ARE PRODUCT!”

[Resilient Acceleration]

It also don't cure permanent impairments you might've gotten from aging. What I'm more interested is whether this technology restore your stamina, though. Because if it does, then all my crazy ideas about ending pension/healthcare, freeing up trillions of dollars, and solve like half of modern day issues in a single stroke is all coming together.

I think you may not be accounting for finding enough work when the work force doesn’t age out for another 25 years. Also, what a way to undermine the adoption of this. “Live for another 25 years grinding away at your pointless job...FEED THE MACHINE! YOU ARE PRODUCT!”

Even if pensions (which would become like basic income) don't go away as former retirees fail to find a job, the healthcare spending cuts would still be substantial. Also, automation at the present moment is a far larger threat to jobs. The transition will be painful; the aftermath is uncertain, but I tend to go with the pessimistic predictions simply due to the different nature of artificial intelligence compared to past forms of automation.

In any case, something like a large UBI scheme will be necessary. I also have, eh, some alternative idea on how to sove this, but i elect not to say them for now

[Stellar Colonies]

More research is needed before I take this seriously.

A sample size of 26 people?!

[Spiritual Republic of Caryton]

From a Christian perspective, I find this very immoral. From a scientific perspective, they need to expand their sample size. From an economic perspective, I expect job shortages and overpopulation (if the rich aren't the only ones able to access it) or serious oppression/elitism (if the rich are the only ones to access it). Thusly, I'm strongly opposed.

This might be stereotypical, but this in its most pure worst case scenario sounds like the opening lore to a dystopia. Hear ye, hear ye the end is nigh, so on and so forth, etc. etc.

[Valrifell]

From a Christian perspective, I find this very immoral. From a scientific perspective, they need to expand their sample size. From an economic perspective, I expect job shortages and overpopulation (if the rich aren't the only ones able to access it) or serious oppression/elitism (if the rich are the only ones to access it). Thusly, I'm strongly opposed.

This might be stereotypical, but this in its most pure worst case scenario sounds like the opening lore to a dystopia. Hear ye, hear ye the end is nigh, so on and so forth, etc. etc.

Yes, this technology coupled with our current socio-economic status quo has a lot of bad consequences, similarly to automation (I think Liri mentioned that). But these things don't necessarily have to be a force for bad if we get our shit together.

[The Blaatschapen]

From a Christian perspective, I find this very immoral. From a scientific perspective, they need to expand their sample size. From an economic perspective, I expect job shortages and overpopulation (if the rich aren't the only ones able to access it) or serious oppression/elitism (if the rich are the only ones to access it). Thusly, I'm strongly opposed.

This might be stereotypical, but this in its most pure worst case scenario sounds like the opening lore to a dystopia. Hear ye, hear ye the end is nigh, so on and so forth, etc. etc.

Yes, this technology coupled with our current socio-economic status quo has a lot of bad consequences, similarly to automation (I think Liri mentioned that). But these things don't necessarily have to be a force for bad if we get our shit together.

Our current socio-economic status quo has a lot bad consequences. Regardless of this technology

[Kexholm Karelia]

I personally believe God has a plan for me and my life, so I don’t think I will go for immortality if it becomes available

[Turelisa-]

Curing old age is only part of the solution. To solve the problem of overpopulation, we must devise a way to upload our consciousnesses into an ever-expanding, hyper-realistic virtual reality that is about as close to Paradise as one can get and live out the remainder of our never-ending lives as highly customizable avatars while our unconscious, real-world husks wither and die, to be replaced with machines that will be responsible for maintaining our virtual existences and providing a sustainable source of fuel for trillions upon trillions of years. We must merge with artificial intelligence and become post-human.

With the creation of an artificial Heaven, religion will lose its raison d'etre, namely a fear of death, and finally die out completely. Human suffering will be greatly diminished. Indescribable bliss will be all that remains. We will be as gods. The Singularity is Near.

Transhumanism is a science-fictional concept , like teleportation and free movement in space and time, which is never going to become a reality because it just is impossible.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Curing old age is only part of the solution. To solve the problem of overpopulation, we must devise a way to upload our consciousnesses into an ever-expanding, hyper-realistic virtual reality that is about as close to Paradise as one can get and live out the remainder of our never-ending lives as highly customizable avatars while our unconscious, real-world husks wither and die, to be replaced with machines that will be responsible for maintaining our virtual existences and providing a sustainable source of fuel for trillions upon trillions of years. We must merge with artificial intelligence and become post-human.

With the creation of an artificial Heaven, religion will lose its raison d'etre, namely a fear of death, and finally die out completely. Human suffering will be greatly diminished. Indescribable bliss will be all that remains. We will be as gods. The Singularity is Near.

Transhumanism is a science-fictional concept , like teleportation and free movement in space and time, which is never going to become a reality because it just is impossible.

Would someone 200 years ago believe this invention of immortality?

[Lord Dominator]

Looks like the boomers will have another quarter century of work left in them. Sorry Millennials no jobs opening up for you anytime soon.

Welp shit, didn't think it through. Now that I think about it, it might be better if widespread longevity is delayed by, say, 15-20 years.... then again, I don't really have any clue on how the timeline would look like.

Delays are meaningless to the broader problem there, which is that all of society is generally founded on the idea that everyone eventually dies, and most people retire before that. Removing aging/related issues as a notable cause of death would result in a complete upending of society no matter when it happens (neither does it matter if it's widespread or simply restricted to the rich).

[Lord Dominator]

Transhumanism is a science-fictional concept , like teleportation and free movement in space and time, which is never going to become a reality because it just is impossible.

Would someone 200 years ago believe this invention of immortality?

Probably, yes (if not the precise means and methods).