China posts sick image mocking ADF

[Picairn]

History shows that when China is in the strongest period, it is the most peaceful period in East Asia. There was no war, wealth, openness and trade, and a series of amazing things were invented.

Uhh, I don't know what history books you read, but when China was strong it conducted a lot of invasions and expansions. https://www.google.com/amp/s/opinion.in ... resent/amp

Even if we eliminate the Yuan dynasty, since it was founded by Mongols, that's still a lot of invasions.

[Insaanistan]

Oh, yeah. I remember hearing about that Soviet tactic.

I mean, were they wrong?

Yes, they tried to justify their own genocide by pointing out hate crimes in America, that’s wrong because you can’t justify genocide.

No, I meant wrong in saying that the US lynched (and kinda lynches *cough* Ahmaud *cough*) black people.

[Insaanistan]

History shows that when China is in the strongest period, it is the most peaceful period in East Asia. There was no war, wealth, openness and trade, and a series of amazing things were invented.

Uhh, I don't know what history books you read, but when China was strong it conducted a lot of invasions and expansions. https://www.google.com/amp/s/opinion.in ... resent/amp

Even if we eliminate the Yuan dynasty, since it was founded by Mongols, that's still a lot of invasions.

There’s a reason Chinese people outside of China in East/Southeast Asia are generally so hated.

[An-Tanwir]

China is making A BIG FUCKING DEAL out of the origins of the virus.
That fact does not escape the attention of everyone outside China.

Maybe the CCP can't imagine virologists and epidemiologists being objective. "We have nothing to hide, but they don't take our word for it, therefore it must be a witch-hunt!"

Go on then. Show us how much you resent and distrust international investigation.
Don't think your overbearing attitude will be mistaken for anything but fear.
The CCP is afraid of the one thing it cannot control: the truth.

The origin of the virus, as far as we know today, isn't even NEAR China.

[An-Tanwir]

So NSGers, what actions should be taken by Australia and Twitter going forward in response to this escalating BS from China?

I think a total severing of diplomatic and trade ties is in order on Australia's part. Australian nationals should be evacuated from China ASAP. Best to fully deprive China of any remaining means to blackmail and bully Australia into submission. Total economic decoupling should be on the table.

Severing diplomatic and trade ties over Twitter drama? Are you insane or just in middle school?

[An-Tanwir]

Australia and New Zealand really need to wake the fuck up and realise that China are not our friends, they are in fact the most dangerous enemy we have ever faced. It's only a matter of time before China gets tired of playing games and just invades outright.

The aborigines need to wake the fuck up and realize that settlers aren't their friends, and are in fact the most dangerous enemy.

Nobody (outside the anglosphere) has forgotten the continuing genocide Australia is built on.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Yes, they tried to justify their own genocide by pointing out hate crimes in America, that’s wrong because you can’t justify genocide.

No, I meant wrong in saying that the US lynched (and kinda lynches *cough* Ahmaud *cough*) black people.

They weren’t wrong in pointing that out, but they used it as propaganda to justify their own genocide

[Kexholm Karelia]

China is making A BIG FUCKING DEAL out of the origins of the virus.
That fact does not escape the attention of everyone outside China.

Maybe the CCP can't imagine virologists and epidemiologists being objective. "We have nothing to hide, but they don't take our word for it, therefore it must be a witch-hunt!"

Go on then. Show us how much you resent and distrust international investigation.
Don't think your overbearing attitude will be mistaken for anything but fear.
The CCP is afraid of the one thing it cannot control: the truth.

The origin of the virus, as far as we know today, isn't even NEAR China.

Lol, good one

[An-Tanwir]

From the article quoted in the OP:

I know that. I was talking about the Guardian article where a picture of Australian special force drinking beer from a dead Taliban's prosthetic leg was revealed.

Okay? Why are you focusing on the least important part of the articles?

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Okay, this is bad and all, but GHK, I think the millions of people in concentration camps might be a bigger problem. I know you hate them for being Muslim, but still.

That is just categorically untrue.

[Picairn]

I know that. I was talking about the Guardian article where a picture of Australian special force drinking beer from a dead Taliban's prosthetic leg was revealed.

Okay? Why are you focusing on the least important part of the articles?

Because I have the damn right to express my opinion on whatever subject I'm focusing on. Got a problem with that?

[Insaanistan]

Okay, this is bad and all, but GHK, I think the millions of people in concentration camps might be a bigger problem. I know you hate them for being Muslim, but still.

That is just categorically untrue.

Sorry, your general anti-Muslim rhetoric and wording led me to believe so.

[Ausinia]

Australia and New Zealand really need to wake the fuck up and realise that China are not our friends, they are in fact the most dangerous enemy we have ever faced. It's only a matter of time before China gets tired of playing games and just invades outright.

The aborigines need to wake the fuck up and realize that settlers aren't their friends, and are in fact the most dangerous enemy.

Nobody (outside the anglosphere) has forgotten the continuing genocide Australia is built on.

This is just fear mongering.

NAIDOC, the apology, and the NT intervention (albeit flawed) are just a few examples of how the people of Australia have attempted to right the wrongs of our settling ancestors. To take a sect of American culture (which you must have to draw this conclusion), and apply to the whole of Anglo Australia is false, wrong, and ridiculous. There is no one in the federal, or state parliments that want to make the lives of the aboriginies worse. If their are, please tell me. I also wish to know what the 'continuing genocide' is, because as an Australian, I certainly want to know, and learn more.

[An-Tanwir]

What's the best thing about the whole thing?This was originally a cartoon reprinted by Zhao's personal twitter, and only about 10000 people read it. But because of this gentleman, the whole world is paying attention to what Australia had doing in Afghanistan
https://www.google.com/search?q=Australian+Army+Afghanistan&tbm=nws&sxsrf=ALeKk03kgSKVQ1CQIkVgkI64v_m1z2gnIg:1606819469875&ei=jR7GX52CNcLR-Qbiqq64Cw&start=0&sa=N&ved=0ahUKEwjd_OD9zKztAhXCaN4KHWKVC7c4FBDy0wMIhQE&biw=1920&bih=977&dpr=1
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/dec/01/photo-reveals-australian-soldier-drinking-dead-taliban-prosthetic-leg

The best thing about the whole thing is it's focussing further attention on what Australia is keenly aware of: China's campaign to get us to drop the covid investigation.

36 war crimes is bad. At least we're investigating and SAS member will be punished.

Drinking from a dead man's prosthetic leg is gross, but I must admit I found it a bit funny. And I've never been as bothered by soldiers disrespecting dead bodies as I'm supposed to be. There's literally no harm done to any person, unless it leaks out, when it offends relatives and comrades of the dead soldier. If this hadn't got out, it wouldn't be a problem. It's a super-shoey!

Yeah, it's good that world attention is focussed on it. Australia will look pretty good actually doing something about its soldiers committing war crimes. I hope the US in particular will be spurred to look into the no-doubt far greater number of war crimes committed by their troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

No, I'm not going to get into tit-for-tat and talk about the daily human rights abuses in China. Because this isn't about that. Zhao is trying to distract attention from the actually rather massive trade persecution the CCP has been imposing on it's long time honest trading partner Australia. Using every inspection and paperwork trick in the book to impose total blocks on some high-value products, which would be totally illegal under WTO if done openly.

Why? It's not because our troops killed 36 Afghans illegally. It's because covid-19 has killed 1.5 million innocent people around the world and is no way finished yet. The CCP doesn't want the world to know how exactly that started. The CCP doesn't want you to know either.

1. China doesn't need to pressure anybody to call off the Covid investigation because we've known the outbreak didn't originate in Wuhan for months now. Wuhan was just the first city to sound the alarm. And if you remember correctly, the CCP was heavily criticized in the media for the lockdown of the city, which undeniably saved way more lives than waiting for the problem to get bigger (as the west did, and America is continuing to do). It's conspiracy theories like this that get civilians killed (cough cough, muh Iraqi WMDs!!!! muh incubator babies!!!)

2. "There's literally no harm done to any person, unless it leaks out, when it offends relatives and comrades of the dead soldier. If this hadn't got out, it wouldn't be a problem. It's a super-shoey!" You're so right, white invaders should have the right to do whatever they want with the dead bodies, and people in the countries they invade don't have the right to bury their family members desecrated, and because of that we NEED to shut down any exposure of war crimes. It might make the families sad

3. "Zhao is trying to distract attention from the actually rather massive trade persecution the CCP has been imposing on it's long time honest trading partner Australia. Using every inspection and paperwork trick in the book to impose total blocks on some high-value products, which would be totally illegal under WTO if done openly." This is very obviously a deflect from the *real* crime at hand, the slaughter of Afghani civilians by an invading and occupying (for multiple decades) army. I don't know how you can read about war crimes and then make such a big stink over trade between two first world countries.

[New Visayan Islands]

So NSGers, what actions should be taken by Australia and Twitter going forward in response to this escalating BS from China?

I think a total severing of diplomatic and trade ties is in order on Australia's part. Australian nationals should be evacuated from China ASAP. Best to fully deprive China of any remaining means to blackmail and bully Australia into submission. Total economic decoupling should be on the table.

Severing diplomatic and trade ties over Twitter drama? Are you insane or just in middle school?

You can object to someone's proposals without questioning their mental health and/or maturity. Consider this a *** warning for flaming. ***

Thanks!
NVI

[An-Tanwir]

The CCP lives in a glass palace on the subject of human rights: it's about the stupidest and most hypocritical thing they could be goading us about.

If you read "Australian forces kill afghani civilians" and your first thought is to shoot the messenger, I really doubt you'd be on the side of the civilians even if a hypothetically perfect country called it out.

[Insaanistan]

The CCP lives in a glass palace on the subject of human rights: it's about the stupidest and most hypocritical thing they could be goading us about.

If you read "Australian forces kill afghani civilians" and your first thought is to shoot the messenger, I really doubt you'd be on the side of the civilians even if a hypothetically perfect country called it out.

I heard about that on NPR not long ago.

[Devionsa]

Nice thread.

[An-Tanwir]

Oh, yeah. I remember hearing about that Soviet tactic.

I mean, were they wrong?

Yes, they tried to justify their own genocide by pointing out hate crimes in America, that’s wrong because you can’t justify genocide.

You can't justify genocide, but you can cover it up and demand that the people exposing it be punished.

[An-Tanwir]

The origin of the virus, as far as we know today, isn't even NEAR China.

Lol, good one

Are you gonna debunk the article or just be snarky?

[Kiu Ghesik]

Lol, good one

Are you gonna debunk the article or just be snarky?

Given the evidence we've seen from numerous sources stating that COVID is very similar to viruses extant in China at this moment, and the evidence that it was spreading long before it was ID'd as being something new, I'd say this was just a missed sample and it's been out in the wild for years.

Additionally from the article:

“When it’s just one result, you always want more data, more studies, more samples to confirm it and rule out a laboratory error or a methodological problem,” he said.

That seems like contaminated lab equipment more than anything else to me tbh.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

While China has absolutely no right to post such an image and is being hypocritical as hell calling people out gor crimes against humanity, let's not pretend that certain Australian soldiers didn't commit war crimes.

Lets also not pretend that those police raids on newspapers and TV stations which had information on the war crimes didn't happen (Australia taking pages out of the playback of South American dictators there).

[Atheris]

Australia and New Zealand really need to wake the fuck up and realise that China are not our friends, they are in fact the most dangerous enemy we have ever faced. It's only a matter of time before China gets tired of playing games and just invades outright.

The aborigines need to wake the fuck up and realize that settlers aren't their friends, and are in fact the most dangerous enemy.

Nobody (outside the anglosphere) has forgotten the continuing genocide Australia is built on.

Ironic, considering China is doing the same thing.

[Insaanistan]

While China has absolutely no right to post such an image and is being hypocritical as hell calling people out gor crimes against humanity, let's not pretend that certain Australian soldiers didn't commit war crimes.

Lets also not pretend that those police raids on newspapers and TV stations which had information on the war crimes didn't happen (Australia taking pages out of the playback of South American dictators there).

I agree with the Commie.

*Hears banging at the door*
“FBI! OPEN UP!“

[Borderlands of Rojava]

China is making A BIG FUCKING DEAL out of the origins of the virus.
That fact does not escape the attention of everyone outside China.

Maybe the CCP can't imagine virologists and epidemiologists being objective. "We have nothing to hide, but they don't take our word for it, therefore it must be a witch-hunt!"

Go on then. Show us how much you resent and distrust international investigation.
Don't think your overbearing attitude will be mistaken for anything but fear.
The CCP is afraid of the one thing it cannot control: the truth.

The origin of the virus, as far as we know today, isn't even NEAR China.

Yeah? Well we know where the outbreak that began started and it was China because

#1 they covered it up for months and threatened doctors who were gonna report it

#2 A wet market helped it spread with its unsanitary conditions

#3 A massive state run dinner in Wuhan which was only slightly more sanitary than the wet market was held during the week this was all getting started

China helped covid spread out of control as much as Trump did if not more so. There needs to be an investigation into them.