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Your least favourite class?

The bourgeoise
71
32%
Mathematics
63
29%
Chemistry
10
5%
Other natural sciences (Physics, biology, astronomy)
17
8%
Social sciences (Psychology, sociology, economics, politics and government)
6
3%
Literature
14
6%
Foreign languages
13
6%
History
1
0%
Other humanities (Philosophy, history)
5
2%
Arts
19
9%
 
Total votes : 219

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:47 pm

Wizlandia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:How so? I mean if you do not know the calc I can see it being pretty confusing.

Eh, setting up problems, solving certain differential equations (its just memorising a bunch of techniques really), etc. I suspect part of it was that I didn't find it particularly interested, and thus didn't devote as much time as I should of study-wise. Also, some of the math in the class was kind of hand-wavy, doesn't help IMO.

Huh, the physics I remember wasn't that hand wavey. My Diff Eq class went a bit more in depth then just memorizing different techniques into why those techniques where used and why they worked. At least for kinematics the stuff is pretty simple differentiation and integration.
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Postby Nea Chora » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:47 pm

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Neutraligon wrote:Like what functions? Are they teaching the meaning behind the functions or just teaching the functions?

i can't really remember, i don't have math this semester and after finals my brain just drains all knowledge, but i'm pretty sure it was just like "formula! graph! test!"

like for an example, i know the quadratic formula, but i don't know why i should know it
everyone always asks, what is the absolute value of b, but never how is the absolute value of b ;-;
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:51 pm

Nea Chora wrote:
Nea Chora wrote:i can't really remember, i don't have math this semester and after finals my brain just drains all knowledge, but i'm pretty sure it was just like "formula! graph! test!"

like for an example, i know the quadratic formula, but i don't know why i should know it
everyone always asks, what is the absolute value of b, but never how is the absolute value of b ;-;

Absolute value is how far a number is from 0. it does not matter if it is positive or negative. The quadratic formula is the solution for X that was worked out for the equation Ax^2+BX+C=0. It is possible to solve for teh quadratic formula from the initial formula. A large number of physics formulas are shorted to the above form to simplify things (among other reasons).
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Postby Radiatia » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:53 pm

I can't stand the upper middle class. Actual aristocrats tend to be fine and have a concept of noblesse oblige but these people are just the absolute worst.

Oh wait you meant school. It's been a long time since I was at school but I'd have to say maths, it was incredibly dull and I've never gone on to use any of it in the real world.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:56 pm

Radiatia wrote:I can't stand the upper middle class. Actual aristocrats tend to be fine and have a concept of noblesse oblige but these people are just the absolute worst.

Oh wait you meant school. It's been a long time since I was at school but I'd have to say maths, it was incredibly dull and I've never gone on to use any of it in the real world.


Not you too, lol.
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Postby Wizlandia » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:01 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Wizlandia wrote:Eh, setting up problems, solving certain differential equations (its just memorising a bunch of techniques really), etc. I suspect part of it was that I didn't find it particularly interested, and thus didn't devote as much time as I should of study-wise. Also, some of the math in the class was kind of hand-wavy, doesn't help IMO.

Huh, the physics I remember wasn't that hand wavey. My Diff Eq class went a bit more in depth then just memorizing different techniques into why those techniques where used and why they worked. At least for kinematics the stuff is pretty simple differentiation and integration.

Hmm, might just be me or the prof I had. Personally, it was the non-linear and coupled pendulum problems and electromagnetism stuff that sort of did me in. Although I think if I ever gave it another go, maybe I'd be better at it. Idk.
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Postby Wizlandia » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:05 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Nea Chora wrote:I get the beauty thing, some graphs are really cool, but schools will be out here teaching about some really odd and specific function instead of how to do taxes, which would be more applicable math.

I think life skills should be taught too, sure. But that shouldn't replace the other math, especially calculus. I like calculus a lot. And that is applicable, especially now with covid and other things like that.

I lowkey think calculus is the most useful/applicable thing you learn in HS. Although def agree more personal finance should be taught.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:08 pm

Wizlandia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I think life skills should be taught too, sure. But that shouldn't replace the other math, especially calculus. I like calculus a lot. And that is applicable, especially now with covid and other things like that.

I lowkey think calculus is the most useful/applicable thing you learn in HS. Although def agree more personal finance should be taught.


Calculus was fine, but I wouldn't say it was most useful compared to some things in psychology or biology.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:09 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:I think applying ‘death of the author’ as a work around with supporting Rowling while acknowledging her shiftiness is kind of an abuse of the concept.

But also it’s a mistake to assume there’s a one size fits all to analyzing and engaging with the literature you’re reading. I think most people tap out before they realize that you’re not being taught one methodology as much as you are given several as a varied toolbox to engage with what you are reading.


That was not my experience, more then that, I tend to do better when I understand the why of what I am doing, and that was not what I was taught. Instead I was taught to read into something and the make up an explanation with no seeming rhyme or reason. There is this analogy here which when read this way means thus and such except that I don't think the analogy had any specific purpose but due to the damned assignment I have to say it does and make up something about it and the surrounding text. My English class did not go over the different methods of reading a text, just gave us random tools and said now analyze using these tools as if those tools mean anything.

Sometimes it's a failure of the student, sometimes it's a failure of the teacher, sometimes it's a failure of the administration. I've found my education in analyzing text to be invaluable.
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Postby Ard al Islam » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:17 pm

Well, it was nigh-on decades ago, but my least favorite class was world history at university. Only because my professor was a communist.

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Postby Wizlandia » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:18 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Wizlandia wrote:I lowkey think calculus is the most useful/applicable thing you learn in HS. Although def agree more personal finance should be taught.


Calculus was fine, but I wouldn't say it was most useful compared to some things in psychology or biology.

Idk, I personally can't recall ever needing to use what I learned in Biology tbh. Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell has never really come up much. In fairness what you go on to study and the profession you seek matters a lot; although I'd argue calc is indispensable in any STEM field, which is a very large proportion of the professional world.

Never took psych, so can't comment there.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:58 pm

Music appreciation. It is the only high school class I failed. In fact, half the class failed. The teacher was boring and didn't explain things well and the material was too hard for students lacking a prior background. My stepfather was in high school band and he even felt the material was too challenging. My mother went to the school and was told many students were having problems in the class. I didn't receive any punishment for doing badly and started treating the class as a study hall (because I knew I would fail) for economics class (which I did fairly well in).

However, I took art appreciation in college and loved it (I worried it would be another awful 'music appreciation' type class. The teacher makes 90% of the difference to a class.
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Postby Aclion » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:00 pm

Cordel One wrote:The bourgeoisie.

There's always one.
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Postby Free Las Pinas » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:00 pm

My least favorite class would be math. It’s the only one I can’t bullshit my way through.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:01 pm

Bard.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:06 pm

Aclion wrote:
Cordel One wrote:The bourgeoisie.

There's always one.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:17 pm

Physical Education (PE).

The whole thing is positively dreadful starting from the changing rooms themselves. I absolutely dreaded dragging my bag of PE uniform and having to change within 5 mins right after the bell and rushing to the gym to not be late (the school heavily heavily disciplined lateness).... same drill of rush change after the class. The changing room was a mess... the stench and smell of the clothes and all the body odors stay with me to this day and the things you saw...

And then it was some dreadful ball games and drills non stop.

The teachers “tolerated” the children who weren’t good at catching/throwing/passing balls while the jocks found every opportunity to obliterate those at the bottom.

Me personally, I was always straddling that fine line between those who would be targeted and those just slightly safe. I could run (even if I was terrible at working with balls) and my status as teacher’s ally in various other subjects kept me semi-protected. However, this poor obese kid was viciously targeted and obliterated every class.

I mean why even try to make them run? :( Why? Just WHY?

The jokes were always in terrible taste but everyone kind of dealt with them in their own way.

The worst was swimming where we’d get dragged off into this chloroform filled public pool in the mountains. The water was so filthy it appeared powdered and I don’t care what they say... it was COLD.

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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:20 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:So much hate for English classes, hurts to see it, really does.

Thing is I love reading, and even looking into the texts, it is just that often the assignments given where not where my interest was, and more often then not forced me to BS about reading into something that I didn't think was actually there.

I enjoyed reading the texts (apart from Wuthering Heights... never could finish that book -- my poor English teacher always wondered why my grade was so much poorer in that module than all the others; read the books, kids), but hated analysing them to death: "When she opened the door, it is a sign she is beginning to unlock the wounded part of her soul... Or, maybe, that she needed to get to the other side of the door."

But the reading, and the acting it out, was enough to counterbalance the over-analysing (except the one year I had a teacher for whom every text had a hidden Christian meaning -- that was a long year). I still liked it, overall (apart from that one teacher's class).

My most hated subjects, as I recall, were the technologies (which isn't up there). Most of my tech teachers had a very didactic style, which is not the best way to teach a minor handicrafts. So I never quite grasped most of them. Those lessons were not what you'd call enjoyable and I learned nothing.
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Postby Nea Chora » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:20 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Physical Education (PE).

The whole thing is positively dreadful starting from the changing rooms themselves. I absolutely dreaded dragging my bag of PE uniform and having to change within 5 mins right after the bell and rushing to the gym to not be late (the school heavily heavily disciplined lateness).... same drill of rush change after the class. The changing room was a mess... the stench and smell of the clothes and all the body odors stay with me to this day and the things you saw...

And then it was some dreadful ball games and drills non stop.

The teachers “tolerated” the children who weren’t good at catching/throwing/passing balls while the jocks found every opportunity to obliterate those at the bottom.

Me personally, I was always straddling that fine line between those who would be targeted and those just slightly safe. I could run (even if I was terrible at working with balls) and my status as teacher’s ally in various other subjects kept me semi-protected. However, this poor obese kid was viciously targeted and obliterated every class.

I mean why even try to make them run? :( Why? Just WHY?

The jokes were always in terrible taste but everyone kind of dealt with them in their own way.

The worst was swimming where we’d get dragged off into this chloroform filled public pool in the mountains. The water was so filthy it appeared powdered and I don’t care what they say... it was COLD.

true, this is the correct answer. and it's required for a while also, which is dumb. never been to a school with a pool, but if i did i probably would have drowned.
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Postby Nevertopia » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:23 pm

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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:25 pm

Nevertopia wrote:I never liked playing healers. Theyre important to any group composition but theyre so out of the game.

You just have to think of it as a different sort of game.

Which one of your friends do you want to keep alive?
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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:34 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Nevertopia wrote:I never liked playing healers. Theyre important to any group composition but theyre so out of the game.

You just have to think of it as a different sort of game.

Which one of your friends do you want to keep alive?


And then I proceed to be blamed by all of my teammates after they die when they're the ones putting themselves in trouble.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:39 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:You just have to think of it as a different sort of game.

Which one of your friends do you want to keep alive?


And then I proceed to be blamed by all of my teammates after they die when they're the ones putting themselves in trouble.

Just remind them who's boss. "Healing is contingent upon bribes."
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Postby Commonwealth of Baker Park » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:53 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Thing is I love reading, and even looking into the texts, it is just that often the assignments given
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I enjoyed reading the texts (apart from Wuthering Heights... never could finish that book --


Cannot to this day figure out who decided WH is a worthwhile piece of literature for 14-15 year olds (can't remember if we read it in 9th or 10th grade). The language is vivid and evocative, but everything else about it sucks ass...

On the wider topic, there were classes I didn't have interest in, or have a particular aptitude for (IMO at the time), but the accumulative process of learning starts to really take hold long after schooling is over. I'm almost radical enough to suggest that education should shift at least 2 or 3 years later than how it is done currently, i.e. starting children at age 7 or 8, and going until 19-20 for elementary/secondary instruction. We know that the physiological development of the human brain doesn't level off until around age 20-23.
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Postby Rwekazaland » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:56 pm

Science. IN my opinion, I think science should be a chosen course in school.
Learning stuff about the moon, earth, and stuff can't gon help me pay me bills. Work a full time job
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