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the Long March of the Communist Party

Postby Sungoldy-China » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:09 am

The Long March-how the Communist Party out of desperation

Battle of Xiangjiang

The most severely lost battle on the Long March, the Communist army dropped sharply from 86,000+ to 30,000

Geographic information of the battlefield
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Battlefield situation:
The Chinese Nationalist Party and its allies:
Xue Yue's four divisions
Zhou Hunyuan's four divisions
Hunan warlords: seven divisions
Guangxi warlords: five divisions

Communist Army
86000+
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Operational plans of all parties:
the Communist Party:
The Communist Party initially planned to break through the Xiangjiang River and join The second and sixth corps of the Red Army
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The goal of the Communist Party is too obvious,
The Nationalist Party targeted plan:
The latter three armies advanced to Daoxian, drove the Communist army westward, and blocked the retreat
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Xue Yue and the Hunan warlords army are responsible for defending the area between Quanzhou and Lingling
The Guangxi warlords army defended Quanzhou to Xing'an, and prepared some troops to carry out side attack in Guanyang
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An accident happened:
The arrangement of the Nationalist Party army was intercepted by the Communist Party’s intelligence department,
So the Communist Party began to debate whether to cross the Xiangjiang River as planned.
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Postby Chan Island » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:29 am

OK, so the long march happened. What is there to discuss? How is this pre-WW2 event relevant?
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Postby Adamede » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:47 am

And China was ever worse off for the CCP’s survival.
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Postby Sungoldy-China » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 am

Communist Party leader: Bogu, Li De, Zhou Enlai

the Guangxi warlord army return to defend the whole state.
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Postby Sungoldy-China » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:54 am

Communist Party leader: Bogu, Li De, Zhou Enlai
Mao Zedong proposed that instead of going west, go north along the Xiangjiang River into the plain and then return to the Jiangxi base, the starting point of the Long March.
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Mao Zedong rejected the Long March at the beginning. Until the night before the Long March, Mao Zedong was still one of the remaining guards in the Jiangxi base. It was Zhou Enlai who persuaded Mao Zedong to follow the Long March troops at the last moment.
Bogu and Li De disagreed and insisted on crossing the Xiangjiang River as planned

The accident happened again

The Communist Party’s reconnaissance forces found that all Guangxi warlord troops from Jeonju-Xing'an-Guanyang had retreated, leaving the city unguarded.
If the communist army advances at full speed, it can cross the Xiangjiang River without a single shot.
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reason:
The Nationalist Party used the tactics of driving out the tiger to swallowing the wolf, intending to drive the Communist army to the Guangxi warlord army, and then annihilate both
The Guangxi warlord clearly saw the Nationalist ’s tactics and adopted the tactics of "seeing off guests", that is, if the Communist Party does not enter Guangxi,
Then the army in Guangxi will only follow the Communist army and not engage in actual fighting.
A small group of Communist forces harassed Longhu pass, while Guangxi warlords claimed that the main force of the Communist Party was attacking Longhu pass, which might enter Guangxi from this pass, so they withdrew the main force back to Gongcheng
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But for unknown reasons. The main force of the Communist Party stayed in Daoxian for three days. The Nationalist discovered the movement of the Guangxi warlord army and demanded that the Guangxi warlord army return to defend Quanzhou
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