Mafia Queen Hypothetical

[Infected Mushroom]

It seems to be becoming an annual NSG tradition. Along with the re-executing of Nazi witches.

I guess this is karma for all those times I said she was the most boring Disney princess.

You don’t like Aurora?

[Sundiata]

No, no. That's unnecessary. The Lord already has an army.

Kinda, but he needs more gangsters.

No, no. Opus Dei is far enough. That isn't to imply that members of Opus Dei are gangsters or some sort of Christian mafia. I'm moreso trying to say that the Lord has less to worried about.

[Giovenith]

I guess this is karma for all those times I said she was the most boring Disney princess.

You don’t like Aurora?

She doesn't even talk for like half the film, dude.

[Infected Mushroom]

You don’t like Aurora?

She doesn't even talk for like half the film, dude.

So then Belle is better?

[Versail]

I'm amazed at things that come out of this guys brain.

[The Free Joy State]

It seems to be becoming an annual NSG tradition. Along with the re-executing of Nazi witches.

I guess this is karma for all those times I said she was the most boring Disney princess.

I guess it's a way to try and make her more interesting (she was always my least favourite princess, too: did nothing, fall in love on the first day, fell asleep, get rescued -- no agency).

And now I'm picturing this Alternate Universe Aurora prancing around and singing *Disney-esque trill*

I know you
I tortured you one upon a dream
I know you
The scream from your lungs is so familiar, a scream
And I know it's true
That business is seldom what it seems
But if I know you, I know what you'll do
You'll pay me at once
Or Bruno here will make you scream

La-la-la-la-la la-la-la la-la la-la la-la...

[Alcala-Cordel]

Kinda, but he needs more gangsters.

No, no. Opus Dei is far enough. That isn't to imply that members of Opus Dei are gangsters or some sort of Christian mafia. I'm moreso trying to say that the Lord has less to worry about for now.

Wouldn't it be really cool to have gangsters, though?

[The Two Jerseys]

You don’t like Aurora?

She doesn't even talk for like half the film, dude.

Don't feel bad, it's not your fault that the movie is basically a recycled Snow White that they made worse.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Isn’t Aurora supposed to be sleeping?

[Sundiata]

No, no. Opus Dei is far enough. That isn't to imply that members of Opus Dei are gangsters or some sort of Christian mafia. I'm moreso trying to say that the Lord has less to worry about for now.

Wouldn't it be really cool to have gangsters, though?

Well, what does that entail? Unlike what Dan Brown novels might suggest, Opus Dei doesn't enforce church teaching. In a colloquial sense, Opus Dei is quite boring.

[Giovenith]

She doesn't even talk for like half the film, dude.

So then Belle is better?

I mean... intellectuals are pretty hot.

[The Free Joy State]

So then Belle is better?

I mean... intellectuals are pretty hot.

Intelligent, made choices, made a heroic sacrifice, and she saved the guy (not the other way around)... Belle was pretty good -- a character, rather than a cypher.

Aurora was a cypher -- no real personality of any kind. The redeeming feature of that movie was that some of the music was nice. But as they reused some of the ballet score... that's not surprising.

[Andsed]

I remember you said you’d have him clean toilets, but I don’t remember the shoving down part

I shove him into a toilet.

Roll a strength check.


As for this mafia queen, I rehire Jack of course. Then I use him to get closer to the queen. Then I use my mad totally real I swear charm to romance her so I can shank her and take over her operation. I then use the mafias resource's to begin the revolution.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Wouldn't it be really cool to have gangsters, though?

Well, what does that entail? Unlike what Dan Brown novels might suggest, Opus Dei doesn't assassinate people or enforce church teaching. In a colloquial sense, Opus Dei is quite boring.

You'd be killing more than two birds with one stone if you expanded into organized criminal organizations. You could profit, undermine the state by using loopholes as a religious organization, look really cool publicly, and you'd get people from the hood. Also, as long as we're on the subject you could secretly gain control over multiple governments and the Louvre. Big up yourself, keep it real. West side.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Please consider the following hypothetical:

You and your family move to a US state in the Midwest where connections matter. You invest most of your money into a casino which becomes hugely successful.

The locals don’t like this, since you don’t really have “roots in the community” and you’re seen as something opposed to their traditional religious values.

Every year, there is a hearing that is held to renew your gaming license to run the casinos. Since you’re on the whole legit, this is usually a mere formality and you regularly get cleared.

---

Over the summer, a new employee was in charge of the slot machines. He allowed two young gamblers to walk out of the place with their winnings after getting two complete perfect slot runs.

You conclude that the employee was either in on it with the gamblers or else grossly incompetent. After a heated argument, you fire him and kick him out.

On the way out he tells you: “You can’t treat me like this! This isn’t how you treat people!”

Later on, you are told by your advisors that the employee has underworld connections and he wasn’t a nobody. Turns out that he’s distantly related to a powerful young Mafia Queen.

(Image)

Despite appearances, the Mafia Queen runs a very powerful criminal syndicate that has its tentacles in everything, legal and illegal. The Queen travels across a large network of mansions scattered across the States and exerts a huge amount of influence over many levels of US government.

A few days later, during afternoon tea time, the Mafia Queen herself comes to see you personally in your office. The Queen is polite and friendly, but has clearly come with a purpose.

“Maybe you didn’t know it,” she said cheerfully while sipping some tea. “But old Jack here is a distant relative of mine. Maybe it was all a mistake right?” You tell her that you fired Jack because he was either corrupt (involved in rigging slot machines) or else grossly incompetent.

The Mafia Queen tells you that she “understands” your situation. However, she says she would consider it a Great Personal Favor if you were to rehire him. This personal favor would be repaid in the future.

She agrees with you that “old Jack” was bit of a “silly goose.” She offers you a creative solution; you can re-hire him but have him not do much. He’d be “fine and dandy” so long as the position sounded good on paper, and he got a decent pay for an intern.

You are not impressed and you tell her that as a responsible manager you shouldn’t do that sort of thing.

The Mafia Queen then suggests to you that if you don’t help old Jack in some way, there’s no telling “what could happen” in your next gaming license renewal hearing.

And on that note, she leaves your office and disappears.

---

You consult your advisors. They tell you it’s not clear if the Mafia Queen has people in the gaming boards or not but it’s a strong possibility; without the license renewed, the casino would have to shut down and you’d be in a black hole financially.

The police are widely considered to be on Team Mafia.

You don’t really have any underworld connections or “muscle” to help you if things further escalate.

However, you believe that you fired the employee on fair principles.

What do you do?

Do you re-hire Jack? Or do you stand by your principles and take a risk? Please justify your decision.

I would rehire Jack and not give him much real work. This is to protect the casino and my investments. I would not want to offend the Queen.

WTF is a "complete perfect slot run"? I worked as a slot attendant in a tribal casino for several years, and have not heard that term before. Are you talking about a jackpot?

Also, a single slot tech (I'm assuming that's the job Jack had, since that's the only job that has some limited access to the electronic circuit boards inside the machines without a supervisor or above) isn't going to be able to rig 2 machines by themselves. Finally, on big jackpots ($10,000+ at the casino I worked at), a slot tech manager is typically involved in making sure the machine hasn't been tampered with, while a slot operations manager, security manger, casino host, gaming commission manager, etc is also called. Any one of these people can and typically will check ID during the process of paying the jackpot.

In short, it's almost impossible for an underage person to win a big jackpot. When they get caught, the win gets voided, and they get banned/removed from the premises.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Business is business. Hire the guy back but put him somewhere where he isn’t responsible for large sums of money.

Of course beyond this I’d try to keep dealings with the mafia as limited as possible.

Like environmental services? Bathrooms need cleaning, too.

[Infected Mushroom]

Please consider the following hypothetical:

You and your family move to a US state in the Midwest where connections matter. You invest most of your money into a casino which becomes hugely successful.

The locals don’t like this, since you don’t really have “roots in the community” and you’re seen as something opposed to their traditional religious values.

Every year, there is a hearing that is held to renew your gaming license to run the casinos. Since you’re on the whole legit, this is usually a mere formality and you regularly get cleared.

---

Over the summer, a new employee was in charge of the slot machines. He allowed two young gamblers to walk out of the place with their winnings after getting two complete perfect slot runs.

You conclude that the employee was either in on it with the gamblers or else grossly incompetent. After a heated argument, you fire him and kick him out.

On the way out he tells you: “You can’t treat me like this! This isn’t how you treat people!”

Later on, you are told by your advisors that the employee has underworld connections and he wasn’t a nobody. Turns out that he’s distantly related to a powerful young Mafia Queen.

(Image)

Despite appearances, the Mafia Queen runs a very powerful criminal syndicate that has its tentacles in everything, legal and illegal. The Queen travels across a large network of mansions scattered across the States and exerts a huge amount of influence over many levels of US government.

A few days later, during afternoon tea time, the Mafia Queen herself comes to see you personally in your office. The Queen is polite and friendly, but has clearly come with a purpose.

“Maybe you didn’t know it,” she said cheerfully while sipping some tea. “But old Jack here is a distant relative of mine. Maybe it was all a mistake right?” You tell her that you fired Jack because he was either corrupt (involved in rigging slot machines) or else grossly incompetent.

The Mafia Queen tells you that she “understands” your situation. However, she says she would consider it a Great Personal Favor if you were to rehire him. This personal favor would be repaid in the future.

She agrees with you that “old Jack” was bit of a “silly goose.” She offers you a creative solution; you can re-hire him but have him not do much. He’d be “fine and dandy” so long as the position sounded good on paper, and he got a decent pay for an intern.

You are not impressed and you tell her that as a responsible manager you shouldn’t do that sort of thing.

The Mafia Queen then suggests to you that if you don’t help old Jack in some way, there’s no telling “what could happen” in your next gaming license renewal hearing.

And on that note, she leaves your office and disappears.

---

You consult your advisors. They tell you it’s not clear if the Mafia Queen has people in the gaming boards or not but it’s a strong possibility; without the license renewed, the casino would have to shut down and you’d be in a black hole financially.

The police are widely considered to be on Team Mafia.

You don’t really have any underworld connections or “muscle” to help you if things further escalate.

However, you believe that you fired the employee on fair principles.

What do you do?

Do you re-hire Jack? Or do you stand by your principles and take a risk? Please justify your decision.

I would rehire Jack and not give him much real work. This is to protect the casino and my investments. I would not want to offend the Queen.

WTF is a "complete perfect slot run"? I worked as a slot attendant in a tribal casino for several years, and have not heard that term before. Are you talking about a jackpot?

Also, a single slot tech (I'm assuming that's the job Jack had, since that's the only job that has some limited access to the electronic circuit boards inside the machines without a supervisor or above) isn't going to be able to rig 2 machines by themselves. Finally, on big jackpots ($10,000+ at the casino I worked at), a slot tech manager is typically involved in making sure the machine hasn't been tampered with, while a slot operations manager, security manger, casino host, gaming commission manager, etc is also called. Any one of these people can and typically will check ID during the process of paying the jackpot.

In short, it's almost impossible for an underage person to win a big jackpot. When they get caught, the win gets voided, and they get banned/removed from the premises.

Yes. A jackpot.

My understanding of slot machines is very limited. Is there a way to improve realism?

[Infected Mushroom]

Business is business. Hire the guy back but put him somewhere where he isn’t responsible for large sums of money.

Of course beyond this I’d try to keep dealings with the mafia as limited as possible.

Like environmental services? Bathrooms need cleaning, too.

For me I’d have Jack mill around in an office. Give him some research to do with little accountability for deadlines etc.

[Gun Manufacturers]

WTF is a "complete perfect slot run"? I worked as a slot attendant in a tribal casino for several years, and have not heard that term before. Are you talking about a jackpot?

Also, a single slot tech (I'm assuming that's the job Jack had, since that's the only job that has some limited access to the electronic circuit boards inside the machines without a supervisor or above) isn't going to be able to rig 2 machines by themselves. Finally, on big jackpots ($10,000+ at the casino I worked at), a slot tech manager is typically involved in making sure the machine hasn't been tampered with, while a slot operations manager, security manger, casino host, gaming commission manager, etc is also called. Any one of these people can and typically will check ID during the process of paying the jackpot.

In short, it's almost impossible for an underage person to win a big jackpot. When they get caught, the win gets voided, and they get banned/removed from the premises.

Yes. A jackpot.

My understanding of slot machines is very limited. Is there a way to improve realism?

You'd need multiple people involved in multiple departments, to cover up the tampering and the underage gamblers. You might also need involvement at the manufacturer level (IGT, Bally's, Scientific Games, etc).

[Infected Mushroom]

Yes. A jackpot.

My understanding of slot machines is very limited. Is there a way to improve realism?

You'd need multiple people involved in multiple departments, to cover up the tampering and the underage gamblers. You might also need involvement at the manufacturer level (IGT, Bally's, Scientific Games, etc).

Is there any game in a casino where 1 person being in on it could screw the operation over?

[Gun Manufacturers]

Like environmental services? Bathrooms need cleaning, too.

For me I’d have Jack mill around in an office. Give him some research to do with little accountability for deadlines etc.

If Jack is really untrustworthy enough to be involved in slot machine cheating with underage gamblers, do you really think it's smart to have him ANYWHERE near potentially sensitive information, either about casino operations or player personal/financial information?

I'd give him a toilet plunger and a pair of gloves, and tell him that's his new job. If he proves himself and does a great job for a year or 2, maybe he can work his way up to cleaning the employee cafeteria.

[Infected Mushroom]

For me I’d have Jack mill around in an office. Give him some research to do with little accountability for deadlines etc.

If Jack is really untrustworthy enough to be involved in slot machine cheating with underage gamblers, do you really think it's smart to have him ANYWHERE near potentially sensitive information, either about casino operations or player personal/financial information?

I'd give him a toilet plunger and a pair of gloves, and tell him that's his new job. If he proves himself and does a great job for a year or 2, maybe he can work his way up to cleaning the employee cafeteria.

I mean, I’m hoping he would get The Hint not to cause further ruckus. The office would be an inconsequential one, say the paperwork for the muffins or something. I’m not sure.

Even if I give him grunt work, I’d avoid the toilet because I wouldn’t want to offend Aurora Who knows what’s she will do? I’m just a business owner; I don’t want trouble.

[Gun Manufacturers]

You'd need multiple people involved in multiple departments, to cover up the tampering and the underage gamblers. You might also need involvement at the manufacturer level (IGT, Bally's, Scientific Games, etc).

Is there any game in a casino where 1 person being in on it could screw the operation over?

I doubt it. The machines have so much networked technology in them, and there's so many anti-cheating/tampering procedures in place, you'd need a crew. And that crew would ALWAYS have to work together, any substitutions would cause the scam to not work.

There used to be a couple of ways to cheat slot machines that didn't require ANY employee help, like speed feeding coins, a yo-yo coin, and a lightwand to prevent the hopper from counting payed out coins. Since most casinos have gone to coinless machines, those methods don't work anymore.

[Sundiata]

Well, what does that entail? Unlike what Dan Brown novels might suggest, Opus Dei doesn't assassinate people or enforce church teaching. In a colloquial sense, Opus Dei is quite boring.

You'd be killing more than two birds with one stone if you expanded into organized criminal organizations. You could profit, undermine the state by using loopholes as a religious organization, look really cool publicly, and you'd get people from the hood. Also, as long as we're on the subject you could secretly gain control over multiple governments and the Louvre. Big up yourself, keep it real. West side.

You'd be surprised how many people think that's what Opus Dei actually is. Fortunately, Opus Dei doesn't get taxed because it is a religious organization. There's no interest in undermining the state or anything radical like that. That said, it would be nice to have more Opus Dei members in greater positions of influence but it's not a nefarious interest. Members of Opus Dei don't seek power and influence for its own sake.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

For me I’d have Jack mill around in an office. Give him some research to do with little accountability for deadlines etc.

If Jack is really untrustworthy enough to be involved in slot machine cheating with underage gamblers, do you really think it's smart to have him ANYWHERE near potentially sensitive information, either about casino operations or player personal/financial information?

I'd give him a toilet plunger and a pair of gloves, and tell him that's his new job. If he proves himself and does a great job for a year or 2, maybe he can work his way up to cleaning the employee cafeteria.

After sacking Jack on poorly-founded grounds he was "involved" with cheating, then swallowing your pride when you realize he has connections, you're then going to make a point of humiliating him with the worst job in your casino?

The Mob always responds well to that. A bit of disrespect really puts them in their place, and I'm sure the local Sheriff will take your side too!