Northumbrian/Northern nationalism: NOW A REALITY?

[Crysuko]

you're grasping at straws here

ITV is the second-biggest TV channel in the UK.

...so?

[Celritannia]

Oh so a handful of people on twitter allegedly agreeing with you means its the case then? Okay


People on twitter agree with me that im gona shag Emilia Clarke tonight, totally gona happen this is the case now, absolutely.

Thousands and thousands, and they haven't seen any issue. And we're talking ordinary people on Twitter, not just political people.

And Yorkshire has 5.4 million people, slightly more than Scotland, and has an economy larger than Wales.
Yorkshire can easily have its own devolved Parliament.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

I would think the same thing, and I did, until I saw the widespread support on places like football Twitter.

Stop the presses people. If football twitter users support it, then it must be true

I didn't say that. I just said that I consider them a representative sample of ordinary people.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

Thousands and thousands, and they haven't seen any issue. And we're talking ordinary people on Twitter, not just political people.

Yeah ordinary people thats what im talking about too, thousands and thousands, they all agreed.

Me, her, my bed. Sorted.

Come on mate.

[Celritannia]

Stop the presses people. If football twitter users support it, then it must be true

I didn't say that. I just said that I consider them a representative sample of ordinary people.

Come back to me when there are millions, than I will take this seriously.

[Crysuko]

Stop the presses people. If football twitter users support it, then it must be true

I didn't say that. I just said that I consider them a representative sample of ordinary people.

football twitter counts as demographics research, you read it here first.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Yeah ordinary people thats what im talking about too, thousands and thousands, they all agreed.

Me, her, my bed. Sorted.

Come on mate.

Giggity

[Nationalist Northumbria]

ITV is the second-biggest TV channel in the UK.

...so?

I'd say that's pretty big. Hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions, probably saw it on the news.

[Crysuko]

...so?

I'd say that's pretty big. Hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions, probably saw it on the news.

hearing of something isn't the same as caring about it, or even taking it seriously

[Celritannia]

Only one of them really. The Independent, and its surprising they did, but the writer for that piece is from the North, so quite biased.

We're also in the Express, VICE (though you could argue that's a blog) and several local newspapers.

As I said, the Independent is the only credible newspaper you listed.

The Express is a right-wing working class paper that is not even worthy of being toilet paper, and Vice is, well, Vice.

Local papers don't mean anything, they will be biased.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

I'd say that's pretty big. Hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions, probably saw it on the news.

hearing of something isn't the same as caring about it, or even taking it seriously

Remember that a lot of people up here are very dissatisfied with the British government and Westminster right now.

[Crysuko]

hearing of something isn't the same as caring about it, or even taking it seriously

Remember that a lot of people up here are very dissatisfied with the British government and Westminster right now.

and splitting off a chunk of England and Scotland will remedy this?

[Kavagrad]

You know what? At least the people arguing for it are making a serious go of it now. I think this disrespect being shown here is a little tainted by the old threads, tbh.

Do I think it'll happen? No.

But I'm not gonna mock this. Good on 'em.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

We're also in the Express, VICE (though you could argue that's a blog) and several local newspapers.

As I said, the Independent is the only credible newspaper you listed.

The Express is a right-wing working class paper that is not even worthy of being toilet paper, and Vice is, well, Vice.

Local papers don't mean anything, they will be biased.

They're both major outlets.

And local papers aren't really 'biased'. More inclusionary? Yes. But the coverage in the Express and the Independent shows that it's something capable of attracting national attention as well.

[Celritannia]

hearing of something isn't the same as caring about it, or even taking it seriously

Remember that a lot of people up here are very dissatisfied with the British government and Westminster right now.

Yes, but only a thousand or so actually want the entire North to be one independent country, out of 7.34 million people.
That's not a credible analysis.

[Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire]

They said this about us Californians getting independence too, and look what happened. Those pro-independence Californians fell flat on their face.

I just don't see much coming out of this.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

Remember that a lot of people up here are very dissatisfied with the British government and Westminster right now.

and splitting off a chunk of England and Scotland will remedy this?

What I'm saying is that this could very easily be powered by new frustrations.

[Crysuko]

Remember that a lot of people up here are very dissatisfied with the British government and Westminster right now.

Yes, but only a thousand or so actually want the entire North to be one independent country, out of 7.34 million people.
That's not a credible analysis.

but but but it got mentioned in a couple of newspapers and some hoolies on twitter liked it

and splitting off a chunk of England and Scotland will remedy this?

What I'm saying is that this could very easily be powered by new frustrations.

it seems people are being polarised in the directions of socialism and fascism, not balkanisation

[Celritannia]

As I said, the Independent is the only credible newspaper you listed.

The Express is a right-wing working class paper that is not even worthy of being toilet paper, and Vice is, well, Vice.

Local papers don't mean anything, they will be biased.

They're both major outlets.

And local papers aren't really 'biased'. More inclusionary? Yes. But the coverage in the Express and the Independent shows that it's something capable of attracting national attention as well.

I would not call them "major outlets".

Their local papers, with local stories, for local people. But that's not biased at all

No, not it is not.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

They said this about us Californians getting independence too, and look what happened. Those pro-independence Californians fell flat on their face.

I just don't see much coming out of this.

Thing is, this hasn't come right after an election with a result that was very unpopular in the region seeking independence (see also: we're actually getting a lot of flak from London Labour-supporting people for being the 'Tory North' and the sort ). I think this and the Californian independence are very different things.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

Remember that a lot of people up here are very dissatisfied with the British government and Westminster right now.

Yes, but only a thousand or so actually want the entire North to be one independent country, out of 7.34 million people.
That's not a credible analysis.

No, I said that a thousand people have registered to actively assist with the movement.

[Crysuko]

They said this about us Californians getting independence too, and look what happened. Those pro-independence Californians fell flat on their face.

I just don't see much coming out of this.

Thing is, this hasn't come right after an election with a result that was very unpopular in the region seeking independence (see also: we're actually getting a lot of flak from London Labour-supporting people for being the 'Tory North' and the sort ). I think this and the Californian independence are very different things.

both are an idealistic pipedream, so I wouldn't say its entirely different

Yes, but only a thousand or so actually want the entire North to be one independent country, out of 7.34 million people.
That's not a credible analysis.

No, I said that a thousand people have registered to actively assist with the movement.

Northumbrian Republican Army coming soon...?

[Celritannia]

You know what? At least the people arguing for it are making a serious go of it now. I think this disrespect being shown here is a little tainted by the old threads, tbh.

Do I think it'll happen? No.

But I'm not gonna mock this. Good on 'em.

He want's to include my own county in it, that does not want to be part of a neo-Northumbria, so of course its stupid.
Nor is there any credible statistics or a great number of people supporting it.

[Celritannia]

Yes, but only a thousand or so actually want the entire North to be one independent country, out of 7.34 million people.
That's not a credible analysis.

No, I said that a thousand people have registered to actively assist with the movement.

Yeah...that's not going to happen.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

You know what? At least the people arguing for it are making a serious go of it now. I think this disrespect being shown here is a little tainted by the old threads, tbh.

Do I think it'll happen? No.

But I'm not gonna mock this. Good on 'em.

He want's to include my own county in it, that does not want to be part of a neo-Northumbria, so of course its stupid.
Nor is there any credible statistics or a great number of people supporting it.

This is about Northern independence. I don't know what "neo-Northumbrian" means to you, but it's probably not that.