Israeli/American Strike on Iran? Now With Murdered Scientist

[Pope Saint Peter the Apostle]

Or since it's against international agreements, it would be like a designer of Germany's 1930s defence industry being assassinated.

Agreements the US has violated and shown have no meaning.

The NPT allows the US (and China, France, Russia and the United Kingdom) to own this weaponry. (India, Israel, Pakistan, South Sudan and North Korea have withdrawn from it/not signed it.)

[Nakena]

Iran places their suspicion on Israel which I’m not surprised by. If Islamic terrorism is a so called problem so is any religious terorism. It’s not the religion’s fault it’s a bad apple that ruins it for the bunch. If Israel really did kill that guy, then they have to own up to it...

If this was Mossad, I expect it to be in cooperation with the US. And I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi Arabia supported it as well.

Thats not how it works. It was by all likehood the MEK with guideance and support of the Mossad/Israel. Its an old pattern. It hasnt shown up in many years however anymore.

I doubt either the US or KSA had foreknowledge of the operation.

[Thermodolia]

If this was Mossad, I expect it to be in cooperation with the US. And I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi Arabia supported it as well.

Bad parallel. Today's the 4th Friday of November. Important gov't official with his bodyguards is ambushed, shot to pieces while traveling in his car. He dies on the way or on arrival at the hospital.

What, no lone gunman?

The US had no involvement here. Mossad planned this months ago and likely used proxies in Iran and GIP help

[Jerzylvania]

I agree. And there's a high probability of some form of retaliatory action by Iran. Could be an assassination, could be an attack. Could be both.

It won’t be coming back to us but to either Israel or KSA

Or any potential American target who is traveling to Israel or KSA. Not a good time for a visit to the Holy Land, folks.

[Pope Saint Peter the Apostle]

If this was Mossad, I expect it to be in cooperation with the US. And I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi Arabia supported it as well.

Thats not how it works. It was by all likehood the MEK with guideance and support of the Mossad/Israel. Its an old pattern. It hasnt shown up in many years however anymore.

I doubt either the US or KSA had foreknowledge of the operation.

Given the recent talks between Israeli, American and Saudi officials, I don't think it's unlikely that they had foreknowledge of the operation, tbh.

[-Insaanistan-]

So... we all agree this was definitely the Mossad’s doing, right?

[Iranian Union States]

So... we all agree this was definitely the Mossad’s doing, right?

Yes

[Thermodolia]

If this was Mossad, I expect it to be in cooperation with the US. And I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi Arabia supported it as well.

Thats not how it works. It was by all likehood the MEK with guideance and support of the Mossad/Israel. Its an old pattern. It hasnt shown up in many years however anymore.

I doubt either the US or KSA had foreknowledge of the operation.

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if the KSA had foreknowledge about this operation. Israel and KSA have been getting pretty chummy in intelligence and military matters.

[Thermodolia]

It won’t be coming back to us but to either Israel or KSA

Or any potential American target who is traveling to Israel or KSA. Not a good time for a visit to the Holy Land, folks.

The US had no knowledge of this operation. Iran isn’t going to attack Americans for no reason, especially since they had no clue it was going to happen

[Thermodolia]

Thats not how it works. It was by all likehood the MEK with guideance and support of the Mossad/Israel. Its an old pattern. It hasnt shown up in many years however anymore.

I doubt either the US or KSA had foreknowledge of the operation.

Given the recent talks between Israeli, American and Saudi officials, I don't think it's unlikely that they had foreknowledge of the operation, tbh.

Israel wasn’t going to tell anyone in that meeting about this operation for fear it would get out.

[Jerzylvania]

Bad parallel. Today's the 4th Friday of November. Important gov't official with his bodyguards is ambushed, shot to pieces while traveling in his car. He dies on the way or on arrival at the hospital.

What, no lone gunman?

The US had no involvement here. Mossad planned this months ago and likely used proxies in Iran and GIP help

I'm sure 57 years ago was planned in advance too, not sure by whom. In that case a full scale war ensued in Vietnam. High profile assassinations can lead to horrible, just horrible things.

[Iranian Union States]

https://twitter.com/JZarif/status/13323 ... 22976?s=19

Now that you made Javad angry. Its over. You are all doomed.

[Orostan]

Agreements the US has violated and shown have no meaning.

The EU still takes it seriously IIRC, and Trump walking off isn't a licence to make nuclear weapons.

It absolutely is though.

[Pope Saint Peter the Apostle]

Given the recent talks between Israeli, American and Saudi officials, I don't think it's unlikely that they had foreknowledge of the operation, tbh.

Israel wasn’t going to tell anyone in that meeting about this operation for fear it would get out.

I doubt the recent quasi-secret meeting was the only meeting that has taken place between officials of those countries, at least Israel and the KSA.

[Pope Saint Peter the Apostle]

The EU still takes it seriously IIRC, and Trump walking off isn't a licence to make nuclear weapons.

It absolutely is though.

The US hasn't walked off the NPT.

[Thermodolia]

The US had no involvement here. Mossad planned this months ago and likely used proxies in Iran and GIP help

I'm sure 57 years ago was planned in advance too, not sure by whom. In that case a full scale war ensued in Vietnam. High profile assassinations can lead to horrible, just horrible things.

We killed the head of their special operations back in January and nothing has really happened. Nothing is going to happen here either.

Why? Because Iran isn’t dumb. They know it was Israel and they know if they retaliate with any major force than the US will respond in kind. They don’t want that. So they aren’t going to play Israel’s and KSA’s game of poking the bear

[Thermodolia]

Israel wasn’t going to tell anyone in that meeting about this operation for fear it would get out.

I doubt the recent quasi-secret meeting was the only meeting that has taken place between officials of those countries, at least Israel and the KSA.

KSA probably definitely knows about it. But that’s because both nations intelligence agencies have been talking with more frequency

[Iranian Union States]

It absolutely is though.

The US hasn't walked off the NPT.

They would if it would help them in any shape or form. The US respect for the international community is on par to Iran and North Korea.

[Jerzylvania]

Or any potential American target who is traveling to Israel or KSA. Not a good time for a visit to the Holy Land, folks.

The US had no knowledge of this operation. Iran isn’t going to attack Americans for no reason, especially since they had no clue it was going to happen

How do you know we had no knowledge. It's too early to know that.

So... we all agree this was definitely the Mossad’s doing, right?

Pretty much, but that's determined by sheer motive at this point. How "we" look at "these things" does vary depending upon who's ox was gored.

[The Restored Danelaw]

Another applaudable act by whoever it was -likely Israel. When a criminal against humanity gets their just desert, one can only applaud the one who did the job, and any military personnel of the IR -as well as anyone who tries to help them get a nuke- is nothing short of the worst form of criminals against humanity.

[Orostan]

It absolutely is though.

The US hasn't walked off the NPT.

This is irrelevant. Iran's choice is to build nukes or die after the USA withdrew from the nuclear deal and went down a regime change course.

[Thermodolia]

The US hasn't walked off the NPT.

They would if it would help them in any shape or form. The US respect for the international community is on par to Iran and North Korea.

That’s the same for most nations with nuclear weapons. China, Russia, Israel, and France don’t give a shit about what the international community thinks.

Hell France blew up a peaceful boat because they could

[Iranian Union States]

I'm sure 57 years ago was planned in advance too, not sure by whom. In that case a full scale war ensued in Vietnam. High profile assassinations can lead to horrible, just horrible things.

We killed the head of their special operations back in January and nothing has really happened. Nothing is going to happen here either.

Why? Because Iran isn’t dumb. They know it was Israel and they know if they retaliate with any major force than the US will respond in kind. They don’t want that. So they aren’t going to play Israel’s and KSA’s game of poking the bear

Iran is actually in a Very comfortable position right now diplomatically. They just need to not do anything rash.

[Nakena]

I expect israeli diplomatic and foreign facilities might be targeted as counterattack. Quite possibly also Hezbollah launching rockets into Israel.

[Thermodolia]

The US had no knowledge of this operation. Iran isn’t going to attack Americans for no reason, especially since they had no clue it was going to happen

How do you know we had no knowledge. It's too early to know that.

Because this doesn’t have the markers of anything that we would have done or had knowledge about. It’s very much an Israeli operation through proxies.