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Indiana AG: LGBT Parents should be stripped of Rights

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:14 pm
by San Lumen
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/202 ... 422495002/

Indiana Attorney General Curtis Hill has submitted a brief to the U.S. Supreme Court arguing that the country's highest tribunal should reverse a lower court decision from earlier this year that allowed same-sex couples in Indiana the right to both be listed as parents on the birth certificate of their children.

The case involves a lesbian couple whom conceived a child via artificial insemination.

I find this very troubling and hope the Supreme Court does not take up this case nor overturn the ruling. LGBT people have a right to be parents and there is absolutely no reason they should not be.

Your Thoughts NSG?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:16 pm
by Anatoliyanskiy
Not good. Really not good.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:18 pm
by Ethics Committee of the SCPF
Absolutely disgusting

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:23 pm
by North American Imperial State
Shocking from the AG

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:37 pm
by San Lumen
North American Imperial State wrote:Shocking from the AG

What makes it shocking? Indiana is a very conservative state. I would have thought this issue would be settled.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:43 pm
by Loben III
Not surprising it’s Indiana.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:44 pm
by Loben III
San Lumen wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:Shocking from the AG

What makes it shocking? Indiana is a very conservative state. I would have thought this issue would be settled.


This typically happens when you get the courts to do the hard work.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:46 pm
by The Huskar Social Union
Well they can fuck off.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:47 pm
by San Lumen
Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:What makes it shocking? Indiana is a very conservative state. I would have thought this issue would be settled.


This typically happens when you get the courts to do the hard work.

Hopefully they reject the case or decide not to overturn it.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:49 pm
by North American Imperial State
San Lumen wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:Shocking from the AG

What makes it shocking? Indiana is a very conservative state. I would have thought this issue would be settled.

What? Why have you singled out my post and not these two eh?
Anatoliyanskiy wrote:F#ck them. This is really disappointing, though not unexpected.
Ethics Committee of the SCPF wrote:Absolutely disgusting

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:50 pm
by Loben III
San Lumen wrote:
Loben III wrote:
This typically happens when you get the courts to do the hard work.

Hopefully they reject the case or decide not to overturn it.

Why not get congress to pass an actual bill about the matter.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:51 pm
by Arcturus Novus
Fuck this guy. Let parents be recognized as such.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:58 pm
by Ethics Committee of the SCPF
Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Hopefully they reject the case or decide not to overturn it.

Why not get congress to pass an actual bill about the matter.

You’d think after 2015 there would be more bills about LGBT rights

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:59 pm
by Ethel mermania
If the state put the sperm donor as a parent on an infertile heterosexual couples child's birth certificate, I would be ok with it for a gay couple as well. As it is just for a lesbian couple, I find it discrimatory.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:00 pm
by Vassenor
Ethics Committee of the SCPF wrote:
Loben III wrote:Why not get congress to pass an actual bill about the matter.

You’d think after 2015 there would be more bills about LGBT rights


Because that would totally happen when McConnell strangled any bill he didn't like in the crib.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:01 pm
by San Lumen
Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Hopefully they reject the case or decide not to overturn it.

Why not get congress to pass an actual bill about the matter.

Good luck getting the senate to pass such a law.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:12 pm
by Ethel mermania
San Lumen wrote:
Loben III wrote:Why not get congress to pass an actual bill about the matter.

Good luck getting the senate to pass such a law.

That is a problem, the courts should not be legislating. The older I get the more I prefer civil law to common law.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:18 pm
by San Lumen
Ethel mermania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Good luck getting the senate to pass such a law.

That is a problem, the courts should not be legislating. The older I get the more I prefer civil law to common law.

14th amendment

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:19 pm
by Dylar
At least he's been voted out in favor for Todd Rokita. Hill is an...interesting fellow
I'm actually wondering how he managed to become my state's AG...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:19 pm
by North American Imperial State
Ethel mermania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Good luck getting the senate to pass such a law.

That is a problem, the courts should not be legislating. The older I get the more I prefer civil law to common law.

As someone who lives in the UK, I have to say I prefer common law, the courts hold a non partisan view

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:23 pm
by Ethel mermania
North American Imperial State wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:That is a problem, the courts should not be legislating. The older I get the more I prefer civil law to common law.

As someone who lives in the UK, I have to say I prefer common law, the courts hold a non partisan view

I am an American we too have common law.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:26 pm
by Albrenia
Whereas I have faith in SCOTUS to handle political matters fairly, sadly I think these sorts of things will run afoul of a conservative SCOTUS looking to strip away such 'sinful' rights.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:27 pm
by North American Imperial State
Ethel mermania wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:As someone who lives in the UK, I have to say I prefer common law, the courts hold a non partisan view

I am an American we too have common law.

Ah right

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:28 pm
by San Lumen
Albrenia wrote:Whereas I have faith in SCOTUS to handle political matters fairly, sadly I think these sorts of things will run afoul of a conservative SCOTUS looking to strip away such 'sinful' rights.

I don’t think Gorsch or Roberts will open this door.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:59 pm
by Postauthoritarian America
Pavan v. Smith, 582 U.S. ___ (2017). Cert denied.

In his petition to the U.S. Supreme Court, Hill argues that upholding the lower court's decision would violate common sense and throw into jeopardy parental rights based on biology.

“A birth mother’s wife will never be the biological father of the child...

Indianapolis Star


Google CRISPR.