And what about people who do not worship the Abrahamic God? Are they not allowed to get married?
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by Vassenor » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:33 pm
by Kannap » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:33 pm
Sundiata wrote:Necroghastia wrote:Do you honestly believe that a loving creator, that gave its creations free will and the capacity for reason, would rather they not exercise those gifts?
Reason is not to be utilized for its own narrow sake, but for the sake of sanctification. We have free will so we can adequately love God in return. It's a choice, ideally a reasonable choice to marry a man and woman.
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by Neutraligon » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:33 pm
Sundiata wrote:Necroghastia wrote:Do you honestly believe that a loving creator, that gave its creations free will and the capacity for reason, would rather they not exercise those gifts?
Reason is not to be utilized for its own narrow sake, but for the sake of sanctification. We have free will so we can adequately love God in return. It's a choice, ideally a reasonable choice to marry a man and woman.
by Adamede » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:33 pm
Sundiata wrote:Necroghastia wrote:Do you honestly believe that a loving creator, that gave its creations free will and the capacity for reason, would rather they not exercise those gifts?
Reason is not to be utilized for its own narrow sake, but for the sake of sanctification. We have free will so we can adequately love God in return. It's a choice, ideally a reasonable choice to marry a man and woman.
by Celritannia » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:36 pm
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by Celritannia » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:38 pm
Sundiata wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Ah so you are saying that you are willing to force people into suffering and loneliness. Now do you think that such an existence is good for the children of such a marriage? Wouldn't it be better for the children if their parents were in a happy fulfilling relationship with a person they are capable of having a fulfilling relationship with?
I thought that sacrament included love. Since homoromantic individuals will never love their partner then you are either forcing people to lie to god or remain alone for their entire life.
The sacrament includes love, yes. It includes the love between a husband and wife but it's not about the husband or the wife. Generally speaking, our lives are not about us.
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by Neutraligon » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:38 pm
by Celritannia » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:40 pm
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by Vassenor » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:40 pm
by Neutraligon » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:41 pm
by Sundiata » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:42 pm
Thepeopl wrote:Sundiata wrote:You don't seem to get that marriage is a sacrament. I don't blame you for that, as that's how most people see it.
History does not agree with that.
Marriage predates your religion. Pair bonding predates even marriage.https://www.thespruce.com/history-of-marriage-2300616#:~:text=Marriage%20comes%20from%20Middle%20English,seen%20in%201250%2D1300%20CE.&text=The%20main%20goal%20of%20marriage,love%2C%20but%20for%20economic%20liaisons.
by Vassenor » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:42 pm
by Kannap » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:43 pm
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by Vassenor » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:44 pm
by Loben III » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:44 pm
Sundiata wrote:Thepeopl wrote:
History does not agree with that.
Marriage predates your religion. Pair bonding predates even marriage.https://www.thespruce.com/history-of-marriage-2300616#:~:text=Marriage%20comes%20from%20Middle%20English,seen%20in%201250%2D1300%20CE.&text=The%20main%20goal%20of%20marriage,love%2C%20but%20for%20economic%20liaisons.
Marriage is common to all cultures as is pairing. However, the recognition of marriage as a sacrament occured too late in my opinion.
by Kannap » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:44 pm
Sundiata wrote:Thepeopl wrote:
History does not agree with that.
Marriage predates your religion. Pair bonding predates even marriage.https://www.thespruce.com/history-of-marriage-2300616#:~:text=Marriage%20comes%20from%20Middle%20English,seen%20in%201250%2D1300%20CE.&text=The%20main%20goal%20of%20marriage,love%2C%20but%20for%20economic%20liaisons.
Marriage is common to all cultures as is pairing. However, the recognition of marriage as a sacrament occured too late in my opinion.
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by Celritannia » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:45 pm
Sundiata wrote:Thepeopl wrote:
History does not agree with that.
Marriage predates your religion. Pair bonding predates even marriage.https://www.thespruce.com/history-of-marriage-2300616#:~:text=Marriage%20comes%20from%20Middle%20English,seen%20in%201250%2D1300%20CE.&text=The%20main%20goal%20of%20marriage,love%2C%20but%20for%20economic%20liaisons.
Marriage is common to all cultures as is pairing. However, the recognition of marriage as a sacrament occured too late in my opinion.
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by The New California Republic » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:46 pm
by Sundiata » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:46 pm
Kannap wrote:Sundiata wrote:Marriage is common to all cultures as is pairing. However, the recognition of marriage as a sacrament occured too late in my opinion.
If I walk into your driveway and say I own your car, do I actually own your car?
Why does the Catholic church suddenly have ownership of marriage?
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