Indiana AG: LGBT Parents should be stripped of Rights

[Kannap]

Sounds utterly miserable, why would you wish that upon people?

I don't wish suffering upon people but these trials, as well as similar trials are necessary to forge us well. Struggles aren't arbitrary. "They are always there to show which way is safe to go," to quote St. Josemaria. Pain and difficulty will someday cease.

You can say you don't wish suffering upon people all you want, but when you're literally advocating for forcing them to suffer nobody will believe you.

[Necroghastia]

Sounds utterly miserable, why would you wish that upon people?

I don't wish suffering upon people but these trials, as well as similar trials are necessary to forge us well. Struggles aren't arbitrary. "They are always there to show which way is safe to go," to quote St. Josemaria. Pain and difficulty will someday cease.

How is your choice between loneliness and a mockery of a true relationship necessary?

Yes, with people of the opposite sex or remain celibate if they so choose.

You do realize how how pyrrhic the thing you're advocating for is? You say you don't want gay people to spend their lives alone, but you would reduce options to a hollow, unfulfilling mockery of a true relationship or celibacy. Would a loving God truly reduce gay people to those options and those alone? Especially if he made them gay to begin with?

[Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire]

Sounds utterly miserable, why would you wish that upon people?

I don't wish suffering upon people but these trials, as well as similar trials are necessary to forge us well. Struggles aren't arbitrary. "They are always there to show which way is safe to go," to quote St. Josemaria. Pain and difficulty will someday cease.

Not if you force gay people to be miserable by not letting them act on their sexuality.

[Celritannia]

Sounds utterly miserable, why would you wish that upon people?

I don't wish suffering upon people but these trials, as well as similar trials are necessary to forge us well. Struggles aren't arbitrary. "They are always there to show which way is safe to go," to quote St. Josemaria. Pain and difficulty will someday cease.

So, you would still want them to be unhappy and miserable.

[Adamede]

Then what amount of alone is acceptable?

Well, if it were up to me noone would feel alone.

And yet you want to shove people into loveless marriages simply because of the sex they’re attracted too.

[Sundiata]

I don't wish suffering upon people but these trials, as well as similar trials are necessary to forge us well. Struggles aren't arbitrary. "They are always there to show which way is safe to go," to quote St. Josemaria. Pain and difficulty will someday cease.

So, you would still want them to be unhappy and miserable.

No. I'm saying that while unfortunate our pains and sufferings have purpose.

[Adamede]

So, you would still want them to be unhappy and miserable.

No. I'm saying that while unfortunate our pains and sufferings have purpose.

Nope.

And if they do that’s not a god worth worshipping.

[Necroghastia]

So, you would still want them to be unhappy and miserable.

No. I'm saying that while unfortunate our pains and sufferings have purpose.

What purpose would that be?

[Sundiata]

Well, if it were up to me noone would feel alone.

And yet you want to shove people into loveless marriages simply because of the sex they’re attracted too.

You don't seem to get that marriage is a sacrament. I don't blame you for that, as that's how most people see it.

[Kannap]

So, you would still want them to be unhappy and miserable.

No. I'm saying that while unfortunate our pains and sufferings have purpose.

What's the purpose of being hateful towards people?

[Neutraligon]

So, you would still want them to be unhappy and miserable.

No. I'm saying that while unfortunate our pains and sufferings have purpose.

Ah so you are saying that you are willing to force people into suffering and loneliness. Now do you think that such an existence is good for the children of such a marriage? Wouldn't it be better for the children if their parents were in a happy fulfilling relationship with a person they are capable of having a fulfilling relationship with?

And yet you want to shove people into loveless marriages simply because of the sex they’re attracted too.

You don't seem to get that marriage is a sacrament. I don't blame you for that, as that's how most people see it.

I thought that sacrament included love. Since homoromantic individuals will never love their partner then you are either forcing people to lie to god or remain alone for their entire life.

[Sundiata]

No. I'm saying that while unfortunate our pains and sufferings have purpose.

What purpose would that be?

Sanctification; the conformity of one's heart and life to the will of God.

[Kannap]

And yet you want to shove people into loveless marriages simply because of the sex they’re attracted too.

You don't seem to get that marriage is a sacrament. I don't blame you for that, as that's how most people see it.

[citation needed]

[Adamede]

And yet you want to shove people into loveless marriages simply because of the sex they’re attracted too.

You don't seem to get that marriage is a sacrament. I don't blame you for that, as that's how most people see it.

Marriage is an outdated practice imho, but so long as we have it, you should bear in mind that it is no longer in the sole domain of religion.

[Adamede]

What purpose would that be?

Sanctification; the conformity of one's heart and life to the will of God.

The same god that smites entire cities off the map, children included?

[The New California Republic]

So, you would still want them to be unhappy and miserable.

No. I'm saying that while unfortunate our pains and sufferings have purpose.

At least you admit that what you are proposing will cause suffering. The next step is to renounce that proposal.

[Sundiata]

No. I'm saying that while unfortunate our pains and sufferings have purpose.

What's the purpose of being hateful towards people?

I don't hate anyone. I'm not going to hate you.

[Adamede]

What's the purpose of being hateful towards people?

I don't hate anyone. I'm not going to hate you.

And yet you want people to suffer.

[Thepeopl]

And yet you want to shove people into loveless marriages simply because of the sex they’re attracted too.

You don't seem to get that marriage is a sacrament. I don't blame you for that, as that's how most people see it.

History does not agree with that.
Marriage predates your religion. Pair bonding predates even marriage.

https://www.thespruce.com/history-of-marriage-2300616#:~:text=Marriage%20comes%20from%20Middle%20English,seen%20in%201250%2D1300%20CE.&text=The%20main%20goal%20of%20marriage,love%2C%20but%20for%20economic%20liaisons.

[Necroghastia]

What purpose would that be?

Sanctification; the conformity of one's heart and life to the will of God.

Do you honestly believe that a loving creator, that gave its creations free will and the capacity for reason, would rather they not exercise those gifts?

[Sundiata]

No. I'm saying that while unfortunate our pains and sufferings have purpose.

Ah so you are saying that you are willing to force people into suffering and loneliness. Now do you think that such an existence is good for the children of such a marriage? Wouldn't it be better for the children if their parents were in a happy fulfilling relationship with a person they are capable of having a fulfilling relationship with?

You don't seem to get that marriage is a sacrament. I don't blame you for that, as that's how most people see it.

I thought that sacrament included love. Since homoromantic individuals will never love their partner then you are either forcing people to lie to god or remain alone for their entire life.

The sacrament includes love, yes. It includes the love between a husband and wife but it's not about the husband or the wife. Generally speaking, our lives are not about us.

[Neutraligon]

Ah so you are saying that you are willing to force people into suffering and loneliness. Now do you think that such an existence is good for the children of such a marriage? Wouldn't it be better for the children if their parents were in a happy fulfilling relationship with a person they are capable of having a fulfilling relationship with?

I thought that sacrament included love. Since homoromantic individuals will never love their partner then you are either forcing people to lie to god or remain alone for their entire life.

The sacrament includes love, yes. It includes the love between a husband and wife but it's not about the husband or the wife. Generally speaking, our lives are not about us.

I notice you ignored my question about the children. And yes, our lives are about us since we are the only ones who can live them. If the marriage is not about the people involved in the marriage then it has already failed as a marriage. It is truly astonishing how badly you understand human psychology as well as what will harm people. But then you claim that people should be forced to suffer so there is that as well.

[Kannap]

What's the purpose of being hateful towards people?

I don't hate anyone. I'm not going to hate you.

Then why partake in forcing harm on people if you don't hate them?

[Trump Dictatorship America]

ok jumping out of character what the hell?? america is such a mess

[Sundiata]

Sanctification; the conformity of one's heart and life to the will of God.

Do you honestly believe that a loving creator, that gave its creations free will and the capacity for reason, would rather they not exercise those gifts?

Reason is not to be utilized for its own narrow sake, but for the sake of sanctification. We have free will so we can adequately love God in return. It's a choice, ideally a reasonable choice to marry a man and woman.