Indiana AG: LGBT Parents should be stripped of Rights

[The Holy Therns]

Oh boy....

The state should not imprison people for being attracted to persons of the same-sex.

I'm sure you are very aware what the problem with your post was. This is not a response to that.

[Sundiata]

Even though it may be sexually gratifying, its not necessarily healthy. Would you say drug taking was not abusive just because it felt good?

"it's not necessarily healthy"

Nothing is necessarily healthy. Eating food? Could be poisoned. Drinking water? Could have chemicals. Breathing air? You could live in New York.

If homosexual sex counts as sexual abuse because of sodomy, then so does straight sex because the same thing happens with a different hole.

Learn to argue.

Heterosexual sodomy is still sodomy regardless of whether a man and woman are involved. That likewise should not be legally permissible. The basis for laws against sodomy is not targeting homosexuals.

[Nakena]

LGBT rights are not motivated by making sexual attraction possible or acceptable. The aim of the agenda is at making homosexual conduct not only legalised but as acceptably open and as valid as heterosexual copulation, upon which the relationship between man and woman, whence human life springs, and is the fundamental basic unit of society.

And who would be behind this agenda?

Again.

Who or what would be behind this Agenda you mentioned? and what does this agenda consist of?

[San Lumen]

The state should not imprison people for being attracted to persons of the same-sex.

I agree. I used to think sodomy should be legal, but now I'm not so sure. There's a case for prosecuting if it occassions ABH or GBH, or is done in public, or between teenagers.

Why should it be? Being done in public is one thing but everywhere else it’s quite frankly none of your business.

Lgbt people should be able to be parents. There is zero credible evidence it harms children in any way. As I’ve said before I went to college with someone who had two dads. They are the only family he’s ever known and he turned out just fine. I even met his parents once.

[Esalia]

"it's not necessarily healthy"

Nothing is necessarily healthy. Eating food? Could be poisoned. Drinking water? Could have chemicals. Breathing air? You could live in New York.

If homosexual sex counts as sexual abuse because of sodomy, then so does straight sex because the same thing happens with a different hole.

Learn to argue.

The male and female sexual organs are compatible. The mouth and anus each has its own single function. They're also lined with soft tissue under which are blood vessels. A dangerous infecting injury to them may easily be inflicted if a certain part of the human body issuing semen carrying psthogens was inserted into them repeatedly and vigorously.
Anyone who thinks these circumstances are normal, healthy and desirous is heading for trouble.

There are a bajillion and one things we do daily that are supremely dangerous, much more than sticking things in a different hole. They're also completely normal.

Driving to work, Could get in a crash. Walking to work, could get hit by a car. There are professions with extreme risks in them that are perfectly legal to engage in. Existing is fucking dangerous, and I don't particularly care for "gay sex is bad because it's risky" when day in and day out we take much greater risks than a dick up the ass.

[Western Theram]

The state should not imprison people for being attracted to persons of the same-sex.

I agree. I used to think sodomy should be legal, but now I'm not so sure. There's a case for prosecuting if it occasions ABH or GBH, or is done in public view, or betweenteenagers.

that already exists, and it applies to straight people too. if you get caught having sex in public youre literally put on the sex offender list,youre talking about assault which is not exclusive to homosexual people what are you even going on about?

[The Holy Therns]

"it's not necessarily healthy"

Nothing is necessarily healthy. Eating food? Could be poisoned. Drinking water? Could have chemicals. Breathing air? You could live in New York.

If homosexual sex counts as sexual abuse because of sodomy, then so does straight sex because the same thing happens with a different hole.

Learn to argue.

Heterosexual sodomy is still sodomy regardless of whether a man and woman are involved. That likewise should not be legally permissible. The basis for laws against sodomy is not targeting homosexuals.

Aw honey, you had me for almost a whole page.

[Sundiata]

The state should not imprison people for being attracted to persons of the same-sex.

I agree. I used to think sodomy should be legal, but now I'm not so sure. There's a case for prosecuting if it occasions ABH or GBH, or is done in public view, or betweenteenagers.

If sodomy is morally wrong and it is wrong for homosexuals then it is wrong for heterosexuals as well. We shouldn't be biased towards homosexuals for being attracted to members of their own sex.

[Turelisa-]

I agree. I used to think sodomy should be legal, but now I'm not so sure. There's a case for prosecuting if it occasions ABH or GBH, or is done in public view, or betweenteenagers.

If sodomy is morally wrong and it is wrong for homosexuals then it is wrong for heterosexuals as well. We shouldn't be biased towards homosexuals for being attracted to members of their own sex.

I think sodomy is wrong, whether it is homosexual or heterosexual. The fact remains it is the modus operandi of homosexuals, it is an essential part of homosexuality, the glue that binds the whole orienation, and its promotion is bound up with activism for equal rights for homosexuals. Opposition to it is conflated with discrimination and hatred against homosexuals, and that's not fair.

[Atheris]

If sodomy is morally wrong and it is wrong for homosexuals then it is wrong for heterosexuals as well. We shouldn't be biased towards homosexuals for being attracted to members of their own sex.

I think sodomy is wrong, whether it is homosexual or heterosexual. The fact remains it is the modus operandi of homosexuals, it is an essential part of homosexuality, and its promotion is bound up with activism for equal rights for homosexuals. Opposition to it is conflated with discrimination and hatred against homosexuals, and that's not fair.

You're definitely practicing the latter.

[Turelisa-]

I agree. I used to think sodomy should be legal, but now I'm not so sure. There's a case for prosecuting if it occassions ABH or GBH, or is done in public, or between teenagers.

Why should it be? Being done in public is one thing but everywhere else it’s quite frankly none of your business.

Lgbt people should be able to be parents. There is zero credible evidence it harms children in any way. As I’ve said before I went to college with someone who had two dads. They are the only family he’s ever known and he turned out just fine. I even met his parents once.

Have you ever been in a loving relationship with another man, and sodomy has formed the way in which you and he have expressed the physical side of your relationship? I know you are openly homosexual, but not all homosexuals like it, and I don't want to judge.

[Western Theram]

If sodomy is morally wrong and it is wrong for homosexuals then it is wrong for heterosexuals as well. We shouldn't be biased towards homosexuals for being attracted to members of their own sex.

I think sodomy is wrong, whether it is homosexual or heterosexual. The fact remains it is the modus operandi of homosexuals, it is an essential part of homosexuality, the glue that binds the whole orienation, and its promotion is bound up with activism for equal rights for homosexuals. Opposition to it is conflated with discrimination and hatred against homosexuals, and that's not fair.

notice how you dont ever cite evidence for your claims and when people point out your hypocrisy and double standards you jump to a different point instead of forming a cohesive argument

[The Free Joy State]

Why should it be? Being done in public is one thing but everywhere else it’s quite frankly none of your business.

Lgbt people should be able to be parents. There is zero credible evidence it harms children in any way. As I’ve said before I went to college with someone who had two dads. They are the only family he’s ever known and he turned out just fine. I even met his parents once.

Have you ever been in a loving relationship with another man, and sodomy has formed the way in which you and he have expressed the physical side of your relationship?

Does this have any relevance to the Indiana AG? It seems rather like probing into other users' personal lives to me. [/notamod]

[San Lumen]

Why should it be? Being done in public is one thing but everywhere else it’s quite frankly none of your business.

Lgbt people should be able to be parents. There is zero credible evidence it harms children in any way. As I’ve said before I went to college with someone who had two dads. They are the only family he’s ever known and he turned out just fine. I even met his parents once.

Have you ever been in a loving relationship with another man, and sodomy has formed the way in which you and he have expressed the physical side of your relationship? I know you are openly homosexual, but not all homosexuals like it, and I don't want to judge.

Im not going to discuss my private life here.

I'd like to know what credible scientific evidence you have for why LGBT people shouldnt be parents other than the bogus study you shared.

[Sundiata]

If sodomy is morally wrong and it is wrong for homosexuals then it is wrong for heterosexuals as well. We shouldn't be biased towards homosexuals for being attracted to members of their own sex.

I think sodomy is wrong, whether it is homosexual or heterosexual. The fact remains it is the modus operandi of homosexuals, it is an essential part of homosexuality, and its promotion is bound up with activism for equal rights for homosexuals. Opposition to it is conflated with discrimination and hatred against homosexuals, and that's not fair.

Sodomy does not follow from same-sex attraction. It's not an essential part of being attracted to someone of the same sex. A homosexual man could be married to a homosexual woman or a heterosexual woman and still practice sacramental marital conduct. Everyone deserves a shot to lead a virtuous life. If we expect fairness from our detractors we've got to treat them with fairness too.

With respect to this thread, what do you think the implications would be of the AG's policy proposal?

[Vistulange]

I agree. I used to think sodomy should be legal, but now I'm not so sure. There's a case for prosecuting if it occasions ABH or GBH, or is done in public view, or betweenteenagers.

If sodomy is morally wrong and it is wrong for homosexuals then it is wrong for heterosexuals as well. We shouldn't be biased towards homosexuals for being attracted to members of their own sex.

If.

A single word there invalidates your entire argument.

[Kungsu]

LGBT rights are not motivated by making sexual attraction possible or acceptable. The aim of the agenda is at making homosexual conduct not only legalised but as acceptably open and as valid as heterosexual copulation, which is the glue that binds the relationship between man and woman, whence human life springs, and is the fundamental basic unit of society.

(Emphasis mine)

Hate to break it to you, but plenty of well-off societies and civilizations were far from heterosexual. The Ancient Greeks and Romans spring to mind, but I am sure there are others who get left by the wayside. In fact, they are usually heralded as some of the forefathers to modern civilizations. The Judeo-Christian view of monogamous heterosexuality didn't become popular in Europe until well after the 3rd century AD, and even now it isn't omnipresent.

I won't argue morals, since that is a hazy and personal matter, but to say society relies on strict heterosexuality to function is historically, factually, and fundamentally wrong.

One might even be able to say the LGBTQ+ community is trying to claim the birthright that has been taken from them by the Abrahamic faiths.

[Sundiata]

Why should it be? Being done in public is one thing but everywhere else it’s quite frankly none of your business.

Lgbt people should be able to be parents. There is zero credible evidence it harms children in any way. As I’ve said before I went to college with someone who had two dads. They are the only family he’s ever known and he turned out just fine. I even met his parents once.

Have you ever been in a loving relationship with another man, and sodomy has formed the way in which you and he have expressed the physical side of your relationship? I know you are openly homosexual, but not all homosexuals like it, and I don't want to judge.

Come on man.

[San Lumen]

Have you ever been in a loving relationship with another man, and sodomy has formed the way in which you and he have expressed the physical side of your relationship? I know you are openly homosexual, but not all homosexuals like it, and I don't want to judge.

Come on man.

I couldn't help but read that in Biden's voice.

[Turelisa-]

Have you ever been in a loving relationship with another man, and sodomy has formed the way in which you and he have expressed the physical side of your relationship? I know you are openly homosexual, but not all homosexuals like it, and I don't want to judge.

Im not going to discuss my private life here.

I'd like to know what credible scientific evidence you have for why LGBT people shouldnt be parents other than the bogus study you shared.

The answer required is either yes or no. I certainly don't want to discuss what you do in your bed. As I said, some homosexuals eschew sodomy. I have never approved of it.

[San Lumen]

Im not going to discuss my private life here.

I'd like to know what credible scientific evidence you have for why LGBT people shouldnt be parents other than the bogus study you shared.

The answer required is either yes or no. I certainly don't want to discuss what you do in your bed.

Im not giving you one.

Id like hard evidence of your claims of how having same sex parents hurts children. Science says it doesnt.

[Nakena]

I think sodomy is wrong, whether it is homosexual or heterosexual. The fact remains it is the modus operandi of homosexuals, it is an essential part of homosexuality, and its promotion is bound up with activism for equal rights for homosexuals. Opposition to it is conflated with discrimination and hatred against homosexuals, and that's not fair.

You're definitely practicing the latter.

He still didn answered my question regarding to his statement about an "Agenda".

[Turelisa-]

The answer required is either yes or no. I certainly don't want to discuss what you do in your bed.

Im not giving you one.

Id like hard evidence of your claims of how having same sex parents hurts children. Science says it doesnt.

Right..

[Kungsu]

You're definitely practicing the latter.

He still didn answered my question regarding to his statement about an "Agenda".

Pretty much any talk about an "Agenda" seems to always boil down to, "They want to destroy all of civilization with their sinful gay ways!" I would be more than happy to be proven wrong, but in lieu of an answer it's probably safest to go with this.

[Western Theram]

Im not going to discuss my private life here.

I'd like to know what credible scientific evidence you have for why LGBT people shouldnt be parents other than the bogus study you shared.

The answer required is either yes or no. I certainly don't want to discuswhat you do in your bed. As I said, some homosexuals eschew sodomy. I have never approved of it.

fun fact, its none of your business and still has nothing to do with the topic