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Indiana AG: LGBT Parents should be stripped of Rights

Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:14 pm

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/202 ... 422495002/

Indiana Attorney General Curtis Hill has submitted a brief to the U.S. Supreme Court arguing that the country's highest tribunal should reverse a lower court decision from earlier this year that allowed same-sex couples in Indiana the right to both be listed as parents on the birth certificate of their children.

The case involves a lesbian couple whom conceived a child via artificial insemination.

I find this very troubling and hope the Supreme Court does not take up this case nor overturn the ruling. LGBT people have a right to be parents and there is absolutely no reason they should not be.

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Not good. Really not good.
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Postby Ethics Committee of the SCPF » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:18 pm

Absolutely disgusting
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Postby North American Imperial State » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:23 pm

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:37 pm

North American Imperial State wrote:Shocking from the AG

What makes it shocking? Indiana is a very conservative state. I would have thought this issue would be settled.
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Postby Loben III » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:43 pm

Not surprising it’s Indiana.
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Postby Loben III » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:Shocking from the AG

What makes it shocking? Indiana is a very conservative state. I would have thought this issue would be settled.


This typically happens when you get the courts to do the hard work.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:46 pm

Well they can fuck off.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:47 pm

Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:What makes it shocking? Indiana is a very conservative state. I would have thought this issue would be settled.


This typically happens when you get the courts to do the hard work.

Hopefully they reject the case or decide not to overturn it.

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Postby North American Imperial State » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:49 pm

San Lumen wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:Shocking from the AG

What makes it shocking? Indiana is a very conservative state. I would have thought this issue would be settled.

What? Why have you singled out my post and not these two eh?
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Postby Loben III » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Loben III wrote:
This typically happens when you get the courts to do the hard work.

Hopefully they reject the case or decide not to overturn it.

Why not get congress to pass an actual bill about the matter.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:51 pm

Fuck this guy. Let parents be recognized as such.
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Postby Ethics Committee of the SCPF » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:58 pm

Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Hopefully they reject the case or decide not to overturn it.

Why not get congress to pass an actual bill about the matter.

You’d think after 2015 there would be more bills about LGBT rights
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:59 pm

If the state put the sperm donor as a parent on an infertile heterosexual couples child's birth certificate, I would be ok with it for a gay couple as well. As it is just for a lesbian couple, I find it discrimatory.
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Ethics Committee of the SCPF wrote:
Loben III wrote:Why not get congress to pass an actual bill about the matter.

You’d think after 2015 there would be more bills about LGBT rights


Because that would totally happen when McConnell strangled any bill he didn't like in the crib.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:01 pm

Loben III wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Hopefully they reject the case or decide not to overturn it.

Why not get congress to pass an actual bill about the matter.

Good luck getting the senate to pass such a law.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:12 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Loben III wrote:Why not get congress to pass an actual bill about the matter.

Good luck getting the senate to pass such a law.

That is a problem, the courts should not be legislating. The older I get the more I prefer civil law to common law.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:18 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Good luck getting the senate to pass such a law.

That is a problem, the courts should not be legislating. The older I get the more I prefer civil law to common law.

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Postby Dylar » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:19 pm

At least he's been voted out in favor for Todd Rokita. Hill is an...interesting fellow
I'm actually wondering how he managed to become my state's AG...
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Postby North American Imperial State » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:19 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Good luck getting the senate to pass such a law.

That is a problem, the courts should not be legislating. The older I get the more I prefer civil law to common law.

As someone who lives in the UK, I have to say I prefer common law, the courts hold a non partisan view
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North American Imperial State wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:That is a problem, the courts should not be legislating. The older I get the more I prefer civil law to common law.

As someone who lives in the UK, I have to say I prefer common law, the courts hold a non partisan view

I am an American we too have common law.
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:26 pm

Whereas I have faith in SCOTUS to handle political matters fairly, sadly I think these sorts of things will run afoul of a conservative SCOTUS looking to strip away such 'sinful' rights.

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Ethel mermania wrote:
North American Imperial State wrote:As someone who lives in the UK, I have to say I prefer common law, the courts hold a non partisan view

I am an American we too have common law.

Ah right
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:28 pm

Albrenia wrote:Whereas I have faith in SCOTUS to handle political matters fairly, sadly I think these sorts of things will run afoul of a conservative SCOTUS looking to strip away such 'sinful' rights.

I don’t think Gorsch or Roberts will open this door.

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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:59 pm

Pavan v. Smith, 582 U.S. ___ (2017). Cert denied.

In his petition to the U.S. Supreme Court, Hill argues that upholding the lower court's decision would violate common sense and throw into jeopardy parental rights based on biology.

“A birth mother’s wife will never be the biological father of the child...

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