Netanyahu Nominated for the Nobel Peace Price...

[VlaRiSsiA]

You do realize Israel(with support from Egypt) is maintaining a strict blockade over Gaza and bombing children like a whack-a-mole game. Hamas is bad, but they weren’t the ones who slaughtered over 10,000 Palestinian civilians in the past decade. Gaza is a literal ghetto thanks to the IDF and massacres are already increasing. It is only a matter of time before the brutality boils into a humanitarian atrocity similar to what is happening to Yemen.

Yeah, you'll need a source for the number of unjustified Palestinian deaths due to the IDF.

And nice job on downplaying Hamas's terrorism. "[N]early all the 2,500-3,000 rockets and mortars Hamas has fired at Israel since the start of the war seem to have been aimed at towns" (Reuters, 2014; will be substanitally more by now). And let's talk about Hamas's involvement in the Sinai insurgency (which so far has seen 5,853–7,353+ killed). And their continued attempts to derail peace talks.

Nice terrorism apologism.

You seriously think I’m defending Hamas? Hamas has committed war crimes, but they just aren’t militarily capable of causing as much damage as the IDF- which is one of the most advanced armed forces in the world. You want some sources showing the unjustified destruction being launched by the IDF? If you look at the actual data, you will see a pattern. That Palestinians are getting killed magnitudes more than Israelis, even though Israel has twice as many inhabitants. And a significantly higher proportion of Palestinians who were killed were under 18. Try justifying the murder of 1,500 Palestinian minors since 2008. Also, the rockets launched by hamas were technologically dismal, and as such they just cannot do as much damage as the Israeli hi-tech weapons. The vast majority of Hamas missile attacks mainly resulted in several injuries, while IDF air strikes almost always result in civilians dying. Almost like Hamas has no idea what they are doing since they are just a bunch of fanatic opportunistic freaks trying to utilize the destruction deliberately caused by the IDF to their advantage. And the source(which was an Israeli outlet, so it already sort of has a bias, not that I’m trying to deny Hamas’ cruelty) you gave showed that Hamas members were involved with a massacre of 25 police officers. That is an unjustifiable war crime, but it is not as horrific as massacring hundreds of civilians for protesting. Hamas is abhorrent, but the IDF is just more destructive. This whole conflict is like the eastern front of WWII. The main belligerents involved have done horrible things, but one side is clearly worse. The Katyn massacre was horrific, but it wasn’t as catastrophic as the deliberate starvation of Leningrad.

[-Insaanistan-]

Considering ya are staunchly against Islam, a religion that says we should stand up for oppressed people, preserve houses of worship of all faiths, and fight against oppression no matter where it comes from, I understand why you support Israel and not Palestine.
I’ll let you get to your fact-blocking now, dost.

I'd hear your bullshit and raise the bid one Entirety of the Middle East and North Africa once Islam was done with them. Take your lies to the Westerners who have no idea what your fascistic ideology masquerading behind the thin veil of a "religion" is, I'll have none of it.

I happen to have North African ancestry, and have studied the history of the region. There were certainly times where the natives were oppressed. Let me ask you: did the oppression occur under the initial conquests. The answer is no. The initial conquests adhered a lot more to Islamic principles than, say, the Almohads. Try again.

[-Insaanistan-]

Saying is one thing, actually doing is another.

It doesn't "say" it either. The first thing Muhammad did after Conquering Mecca was break every idol in Kaaba -a place of worship for the pagans- and appropriate it for Muslims by sending Balal to go call for Salaat from above it. Followed immediately by making the pagan Meccans convert at the end of a sword.

Yeah, last part didn’t happen, dude. They decided to convert. A lot converted because their logic was, “He beat isn’t even though we vastly outnumbered him. He thwarted us at every turn. He’s definitely got God on his side.” Nice try to rewrite history though.
I suppose I should thank people like you who lie and claim Islam is violent. It encourages non-Muslims to look at the faith, and many do and did that what you’re saying isn’t even a little bit true.

[The Restored Danelaw]

It doesn't "say" it either. The first thing Muhammad did after Conquering Mecca was break every idol in Kaaba -a place of worship for the pagans- and appropriate it for Muslims by sending Balal to go call for Salaat from above it. Followed immediately by making the pagan Meccans convert at the end of a sword.

Yeah, last part didn’t happen, dude. They decided to convert. A lot converted because their logic was, “He beat isn’t even though we vastly outnumbered him. He thwarted us at every turn. He’s definitely got God on his side.” Nice try to rewrite history though.

I mean, if you unironically believe that I genuinely can't expect to have any sort of discussion with you where I won't get a warning for pointing out how unintelligent that argument -and the obnoxious smiley after it- really are. I do notice you didn't deny that Muhammad broke the idols and began using a place of pagan worship as a 'center of Islam', which goes against your prior statement which is enough for me to know you're at the very least self-aware in your hypocrisy. Right. With that in mind, I will stop partaking in this threadjack and put this new account of yours on ignore also.

[Pope Saint Peter the Apostle]

Yeah, you'll need a source for the number of unjustified Palestinian deaths due to the IDF.

And nice job on downplaying Hamas's terrorism. "[N]early all the 2,500-3,000 rockets and mortars Hamas has fired at Israel since the start of the war seem to have been aimed at towns" (Reuters, 2014; will be substanitally more by now). And let's talk about Hamas's involvement in the Sinai insurgency (which so far has seen 5,853–7,353+ killed). And their continued attempts to derail peace talks.

Nice terrorism apologism.

You seriously think I’m defending Hamas? Hamas has committed war crimes, but they just aren’t militarily capable of causing as much damage as the IDF- which is one of the most advanced armed forces in the world. You want some sources showing the unjustified destruction being launched by the IDF? If you look at the actual data, you will see a pattern. That Palestinians are getting killed magnitudes more than Israelis, even though Israel has twice as many inhabitants. And a significantly higher proportion of Palestinians who were killed were under 18. Try justifying the murder of 1,500 Palestinian minors since 2008. Also, the rockets launched by hamas were technologically dismal, and as such they just cannot do as much damage as the Israeli hi-tech weapons. The vast majority of Hamas missile attacks mainly resulted in several injuries, while IDF air strikes almost always result in civilians dying. Almost like Hamas has no idea what they are doing since they are just a bunch of fanatic opportunistic freaks trying to utilize the destruction deliberately caused by the IDF to their advantage. And the source(which was an Israeli outlet, so it already sort of has a bias, not that I’m trying to deny Hamas’ cruelty) you gave showed that Hamas members were involved with a massacre of 25 police officers. That is an unjustifiable war crime, but it is not as horrific as massacring hundreds of civilians for protesting. Hamas is abhorrent, but the IDF is just more destructive. This whole conflict is like the eastern front of WWII. The main belligerents involved have done horrible things, but one side is clearly worse. The Katyn massacre was horrific, but it wasn’t as catastrophic as the deliberate starvation of Leningrad.

Interestingly enough, your sources don't support your conclusion. Over the last decade, there were 3,685 - not 10,000 - Palestinian deaths. Regardless, no-one is denying that during the various conflicts, both sides have committed war crimes. But I feel like you're missing the point. No-one said all deaths were justified, but I think you too recognise that not every death is unjustified. So your characterisation is broadly off.

[-Insaanistan-]

Yeah, last part didn’t happen, dude. They decided to convert. A lot converted because their logic was, “He beat isn’t even though we vastly outnumbered him. He thwarted us at every turn. He’s definitely got God on his side.” Nice try to rewrite history though.

I mean, if you unironically believe that I genuinely can't expect to have any sort of discussion with you where I won't get a warning for pointing out how unintelligent that argument -and the obnoxious smiley after it- really are. I do notice you didn't deny that Muhammad broke the idols and began using a place of pagan worship as a 'center of Islam', which goes against your prior statement which is enough for me to know you're at the very least self-aware in your hypocrisy. Right. With that in mind, I will stop partaking in this threadjack and put this new account of yours on ignore also.

It doesn’t contradict what I said because a. They didn’t tear down the Kaaba and build a mosque in its place
B. People in Makkah hasn’t already begun reverting to Islam
C. Before it was used as a pagan temple, it was a monotheistic house of worship, which you should know if you were previously Muslim like you claim.
An example of a non-Muslim source refuting your claims:
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/bound ... -of-islam/
Peace be with you, dost. Peace.

[Norastan]

A lot of Muslim countries wouldn't like this decision, but Jordan and Egypt probably won't care since they do business with Israel.