Staff at Jordan Peterson's publisher protest new book plans

[Zedeshia]

Criticizing the company you work for being grounds for immediate and punitive termination is not a particularly good look.

They really need to unionize then

Indeed

[Cultural Posadism]

Imagine unironically talking about "SJWs" in 2020.

I don't particuarly like the term but it's the best one that fits.

[x]

I could say "leftists" but then that risks painting the entire left-wing with a single brush. Do you have a better suggestion?

I don't know. Maybe try to come up with terms that isn't a cringey slur popularized by "thinkers" who've all since become fascists or (like Peterson) imploded at the hands of their own bizarre habits and obsessions.

Unless the book is a modern day Mein Kampf it should be published like anything else.

I mean, sure... if he finds a publisher or platform for it. He's not entitled to the services of any private publishers, if said publishers choose to drop him.

I thought the entire point of the thread is that he *is* being published.[/quote]
Yes.

Also, this one publisher maybe refusing to print his latest book is not "silencing dissent". Specially when Peterson could never be considered a "dissenting" voice in any way shape or form. The dude is a conservative celebrity who's already published two books, who gets invited to give lectures and speeches in universities around the world, and who has given multiple interviews on mainstream media on top of his constant appearances on popular online media.

But he is dissenting from the party line of SJWs

There's an "SJW party"?

thus they may try to do that since de-platforming and generally escaping dialogue is their modus operandi.

This sounds like a very lazy overgeneralization built on stereotypes and strawmen.

[SD_Film Artists]

He once planned to create a website so people could blacklist "post-modern neo-Marxist" professors and courses. And he has expressed plenty of dumb, uninformed takes on politics and history.

Advertising left-wing education courses and being intellectually creative when it comes to history? He could fit right into the BBC!

[Kexholm Karelia]

How do you imprison and torture a college course?

You start with the professors. As for the course itself, I haven't figured that part out but I'm sure he will. Can't you see it's a conspiracy?

No not really

[Cultural Posadism]

Kexholm Karelia might be particularly interested to hear about the time he was going to publish a website listing college courses containing "postmodern neo-Marxist" content. Lists! The most evil way to organise information.

What’s wrong with listing college courses where a narrative is pushed?

What exactly do you think a "narrative" is, within this context?

[Alcala-Cordel]

You start with the professors. As for the course itself, I haven't figured that part out but I'm sure he will. Can't you see it's a conspiracy?

No not really

Then why do you make these same claims about AOC?

[Ifreann]

You start with the professors. As for the course itself, I haven't figured that part out but I'm sure he will. Can't you see it's a conspiracy?

No not really

AOC makes a list, you act like she's moments away from deploying death squads.

Peterson makes a list, suddenly you don't see anything wrong.

Hmmmm.

[Cultural Posadism]

No not really

AOC makes a list, you act like she's moments away from deploying death squads.

Peterson makes a list, suddenly you don't see anything wrong.

Hmmmm.

When AOC makes a list, it's unquestionable proof of imminent Maoism in the United States.

When Peterson makes a list, it's cool and good because Kexholm Karelia doesn't like courses that teaches things he dislikes.

Hmmm, I beginning to suspect that Kexholm Karelia's politics are emotion-driven and devoid of logical consistency.

[Alcala-Cordel]

AOC makes a list, you act like she's moments away from deploying death squads.

Peterson makes a list, suddenly you don't see anything wrong.

Hmmmm.

When AOC makes a list, it's unquestionable proof of imminent Maoism in the United States.

When Peterson makes a list, it's cool and good because Kexholm Karelia doesn't like courses that teaches things he dislikes.

Hmmm, I beginning to suspect that Kexholm Karelia's politics are emotion-driven and devoid of logical consistency.

I believe you mean to say facts and logic.

[Loben III]

One ponders the apparent damage a book can do.

[Eukaryotic Cells]

I'm not sure that Jordan Peterson is in a position to be giving life advice, but I guess he's gotta make that bread somehow.

[Cultural Posadism]

One ponders the apparent damage a book can do.

Well, if you shoot it out of this bad boy...

[Alcala-Cordel]

One ponders the apparent damage a book can do.

The larger ones and the hardcover books can break windows.

[Cultural Posadism]

I'm not sure that Jordan Peterson is in a position to be giving life advice, but I guess he's gotta make that bread somehow.

By publishing this book, the dude is breaking one of his own rules. According to him, you must sort yourself out before you try to change the world. And here he is, going through all kinds of weird mental and physical health problems, and he's trying to teach other people how to live their lives?

Shameful. He's become the serpent of chaos.

[Kexholm Karelia]

No not really

Then why do you make these same claims about AOC?

She’s making a list of people, not college courses

[Nakena]

Shameful. He's become the serpent of chaos.

Thats the whole idea.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Then why do you make these same claims about AOC?

She’s making a list of people, not college courses

College courses are taught by people.

[Loben III]

I'm not sure that Jordan Peterson is in a position to be giving life advice, but I guess he's gotta make that bread somehow.

By publishing this book, the dude is breaking one of his own rules. According to him, you must sort yourself out before you try to change the world. And here he is, going through all kinds of weird mental and physical health problems, and he's trying to teach other people how to live their lives?

Shameful. He's become the serpent of chaos.

He seems to be doing well despite his afflictions.

[Cultural Posadism]

Then why do you make these same claims about AOC?

She’s making a list of people, not college courses

Who teaches in college courses? Who studies in college courses?

[Cultural Posadism]

She’s making a list of people, not college courses

College courses are taught by people.

Except marketing courses. Marketing professors aren't people.

[SD_Film Artists]

I don't particuarly like the term but it's the best one that fits.

[x]

X is the new word?

I could say "leftists" but then that risks painting the entire left-wing with a single brush. Do you have a better suggestion?

I don't know. Maybe try to come up with terms that isn't a cringey slur popularized by "thinkers" who've all since become fascists or (like Peterson) imploded at the hands of their own bizarre habits and obsessions.

But cringy or not it is the term. But I'm open minded; if you have a better idea I'm willing to at least consider it.

But he is dissenting from the party line of SJWs

There's an "SJW party"?

Not literally of course, but rather that they tend to hyper-focus on if their members (Facebook groups etc) are saying the right words etc. I've seen one autistic Facebook group where if you're not a socialist trans person of colour then you are demoted to the position of self-hating "ally"; despite the fact that the group is- in theory- made for all autistics regardless of their race or gender identity.

thus they may try to do that since de-platforming and generally escaping dialogue is their modus operandi.

This sounds like a very lazy overgeneralization built on stereotypes and strawmen.

De-platforming, shuttting-down and generally crying out "facist" are all tactics seen on the far-left designed to escape dialogue.

[Kexholm Karelia]

She’s making a list of people, not college courses

College courses are taught by people.

Peterson would be listing the names of professors in that case

[Des-Bal]

[x]

For starters, he became famous by lying about Bill C-16. He's also either dishonest or ignorant when it comes to talking about certain philosophical movements (see: him repeating the conspiracy theory that conflates post-modern philosophy with identity politics and treats them as a secret Marxist ploy). He has implied some very reactionary views on gender roles. He once planned to create a website so people could blacklist "post-modern neo-Marxist" professors and courses. And he has expressed plenty of dumb, uninformed takes on politics and history.

So nothing really worth caring about.

[Vassenor]

Then why do you make these same claims about AOC?

She’s making a list of people, not college courses

So how does the course push a narrative? Sounds like a thing people do, not courses.

[Alcala-Cordel]

College courses are taught by people.

Peterson would be listing the names of professors in that case

Would he?