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Postby Punished UMN » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:19 pm

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Whisked away to Russia seemingly on the behest of his daughter Mikhaila under some pretty murky circumstances. Meat based elder abuse: you hate to see it, folks.

DId he seriously name his daughter after Gorbachev? The more I learn about this dude the more of a clown he seems to be.

Peterson, for all of his conservatism seems to have an interesting fascination with Soviet culture, the dude decorates his house/apartment with Soviet propaganda posters and Socialist Realist art.
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Postby Zedeshia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:19 pm

People are rejecting to take part in something related to Jordan Peterson? I’m not surprised.

Hopefully something will be done, but I’m not very optimistic about those chances unless further action is taken by the publisher’s workers. All things considering the book will likely still be published for full profit.
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Postby Nilokeras » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:21 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
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Whisked away to Russia seemingly on the behest of his daughter Mikhaila under some pretty murky circumstances. Meat based elder abuse: you hate to see it, folks.

DId he seriously name his daughter after Gorbachev? The more I learn about this dude the more of a clown he seems to be.


They are a profoundly weird family, and while Peterson is a crank it genuinely seems like he's being abused by Mikhaila and her Russian husband, who runs Peterson's business. Whisking him away to Russia for an unspecified amount of time, whereupon he falls into a coma and emerges very frail and weak, and with Mikhaila seemingly in total control of his appearances and communication with the outside world? Major red flags.
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Postby Nevertopia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:23 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:Free speech should not be restricted like this. Let the man publish his book FFS.


i concur.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:24 pm

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Alcala-Cordel wrote:DId he seriously name his daughter after Gorbachev? The more I learn about this dude the more of a clown he seems to be.


They are a profoundly weird family, and while Peterson is a crank it genuinely seems like he's being abused by Mikhaila and her Russian husband, who runs Peterson's business. Whisking him away to Russia for an unspecified amount of time, whereupon he falls into a coma and emerges very frail and weak, and with Mikhaila seemingly in total control of his appearances and communication with the outside world? Major red flags.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:25 pm

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No, what happened is some people said they didn't like what he'd written and everyone started screaming about how this was an orwellian attempt to silence him from reality.

Okay but what does that have to do with private companies being forced to do business?


So you criticise me for misappraising the situation then complain when I reappraise it?
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:26 pm

The problem with the "diversity and inclusion" agenda is that it never quite extends to those with contrary views to your own. There's a certain satisfaction here in seeing those who truly believed in the transformative power of progressive capitalism and the wokewashing corporates alike waking up the night after and realising just who they crawled into bed with.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:26 pm

I honestly dont know much about the man other than him being a homophobe and some stuff about drugs iirc

I can understand why some workers at this publisher would be uncomfortable with their business doing a publishing deal with the guy if he is really that controversial but im not sure how i feel over all just yet on the matter
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Alcala-Cordel wrote:DId he seriously name his daughter after Gorbachev? The more I learn about this dude the more of a clown he seems to be.

Peterson, for all of his conservatism seems to have an interesting fascination with Soviet culture, the dude decorates his house/apartment with Soviet propaganda posters and Socialist Realist art.

To be fair socialist realism has some banging art

I studied it for my dissertation in uni as my work was on art in the USSR.
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:27 pm

Nevertopia wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Free speech should not be restricted like this. Let the man publish his book FFS.


i concur.


Good thing this has little to do with the restriction of free speech, and instead to do with a business getting complaints from a bunch of employees who don't like what a book says. The employees have every right to complain, Peterson has every right to put forward his book for publication, and the publisher has every right to take on or reject the book for publication based on their cost/benefit analysis.

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Postby Duvniask » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:29 pm

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Alcala-Cordel wrote:DId he seriously name his daughter after Gorbachev? The more I learn about this dude the more of a clown he seems to be.

Peterson, for all of his conservatism seems to have an interesting fascination with Soviet culture, the dude decorates his house/apartment with Soviet propaganda posters and Socialist Realist art.

All the more likely the dude has a cuck-fantasy.

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Postby Nevertopia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:29 pm

You know this was great advertising, I had no idea his new book was coming out any time soon. Looks like I need to pre-order.
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Postby Vapormancer » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:29 pm

Ah, the HR lady faction asserts their tyrannical control via a soldier’s council yet again. The death of publishers and their sufferable control can’t come quick enough. These people have one of these easiest jobs in the world. Thank God they got smashed to pieces. Imagine the good scholarship we may have missed out on.

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Postby Nevertopia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:32 pm

Vapormancer wrote:Ah, the HR lady faction asserts their tyrannical control via a soldier’s council yet again. The death of publishers and their sufferable control can’t come quick enough. These people have one of these easiest jobs in the world. Thank God they got smashed to pieces. Imagine the good scholarship we may have missed out on.


wasnt there a bit in Orwell's 1984 bit about how books were restricted not because they were illegal but because people found books offensive?
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:32 pm

Nevertopia wrote:You know this was great advertising, I had no idea his new book was coming out any time soon. Looks like I need to pre-order.


The Streisand Effect is a well known phenomenon.

One wonders if the publisher saw some of the employees complaining, leaned out a window and shouted "Oh No! We might have the cancel this political book unless we get lots of pre-orders! Wink Wink!"

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:46 pm

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Kexholm Karelia wrote:Many leftists think any dissenting voice is a racist white supremacist, lol


So where does the complaint say anything about racism? The issues are with his rampant homophobia.

You mean “transphobia?”
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:54 pm

I thought this was going to be a thread about a basketball player. Self help book authors seem to me to be con artists, narcissists, or wannabe cult leaders.
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Postby Turelisa- » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:38 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:The problem with the "diversity and inclusion" agenda is that it never quite extends to those with contrary views to your own. There's a certain satisfaction here in seeing those who truly believed in the transformative power of progressive capitalism and the wokewashing corporates alike waking up the night after and realising just who they crawled into bed with.


Imagine the threats to staff to comply and the lack of concern for their moral consciences that would ensue if they raised moral objections to the publishing of childrens books promoting same-sex relationships or the hundred or so genders.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:43 pm

What I want to know is when he even wrote this book. Hasn't his daughter(pictured here dressed as a sexy lobster) been keeping him in a coma in Siberia?


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Kexholm Karelia wrote:Many leftists think any dissenting voice is a racist white supremacist, lol


So where does the complaint say anything about racism? The issues are with his rampant homophobia.

Many rightists think that any dissent is an accusation of racism.
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Postby Sundiata » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:44 pm

He's quite boring.
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:48 pm

I mean... Peterson is a reactionary grifter who became famous by lying about a trans rights bill and then rode to wealth and international prestige on top of an ongoing wave of "anti-SJW" hysteria. His "rules of life" stuff has probably helped a lot of men, but that only puts him on the same level as other self-help gurus like Deepak Chopra, none of which deserve to be treated like great intellectual powerhouses like he does. Politically, he's consistently been either recklessly ignorant or suspiciously vague.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:50 pm

Nakena wrote:And what the hell is a "Diversity and Inclusion committee"? Sounds like some obscure USSR comitee that Yeltsin, Putin and everyone else has forgotten about after 1991 if you ask me.



Exactly. This is likely just another bunch of SJWs trying to silence dissent. Unless the book is a modern day Mein Kampf it should be published like anything else.
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:50 pm

Ifreann wrote:What I want to know is when he even wrote this book. Hasn't his daughter(pictured here dressed as a sexy lobster) been keeping him in a coma in Siberia?

Would that be the same daughter that got him into one of those bizarre all-meat diets?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:51 pm

Cultural Posadism wrote:I mean... Peterson is a reactionary grifter who became famous by lying about a trans rights bill and then rode to wealth and international prestige on top of an ongoing wave of "anti-SJW" hysteria. His "rules of life" stuff has probably helped a lot of men, but that only puts him on the same level as other self-help gurus like Deepak Chopra, none of which deserve to be treated like great intellectual powerhouses like he does. Politically, he's consistently been either recklessly ignorant or suspiciously vague.


Would that include the stuff about how women aren't supposed to have jobs because it's not natural?
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:55 pm

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Nakena wrote:And what the hell is a "Diversity and Inclusion committee"? Sounds like some obscure USSR comitee that Yeltsin, Putin and everyone else has forgotten about after 1991 if you ask me.



Exactly. This is likely just another bunch of SJWs trying to silence dissent.

Imagine unironically talking about "SJWs" in 2020.

Unless the book is a modern day Mein Kampf it should be published like anything else.

I mean, sure... if he finds a publisher or platform for it. He's not entitled to the services of any private publishers, if said publishers choose to drop him.

Also, this one publisher maybe refusing to print his latest book is not "silencing dissent". Specially when Peterson could never be considered a "dissenting" voice in any way shape or form. The dude is a conservative celebrity who's already published two books, who gets invited to give lectures and speeches in universities around the world, and who has given multiple interviews on mainstream media on top of his constant appearances on popular online media.
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:56 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Cultural Posadism wrote:I mean... Peterson is a reactionary grifter who became famous by lying about a trans rights bill and then rode to wealth and international prestige on top of an ongoing wave of "anti-SJW" hysteria. His "rules of life" stuff has probably helped a lot of men, but that only puts him on the same level as other self-help gurus like Deepak Chopra, none of which deserve to be treated like great intellectual powerhouses like he does. Politically, he's consistently been either recklessly ignorant or suspiciously vague.


Would that include the stuff about how women aren't supposed to have jobs because it's not natural?

You mean one of the many male chauvinist arguments he always implies but never explicitly states?
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