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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:48 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
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You've never heard of the 'Zionist Conspiracy'? You know, that fringe theory where "da ebul jewz" run the whole world and are trying to destroy the white race and bring liberal capitalism to the forefront of the world via globalist politics? That stupid shit only bigoted fascists believe?

Or maybe you just jumped the gun and are presuming I'm shilling for Tel Aviv bulldozers. Sure, buddy. Sure.

'Zionism' is the political movement to establish a Jewish state in Palestine. Maybe you should reword/clarify that, perhaps writing "Zionist world order" or "Zionist conspiracy" instead.


I'm well aware of what Zionism is, yet I rarely see anybody use the term in it's proper context and instead as a byword for racist conspiracy theories involving Jewish world domination.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:49 am

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Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:Well, this is biased.

Again, why don't you look at all the articles that have been sent here from outside sources?


You mean the articles that say nothing new and just echo the fact the Syrians claim they were attacked?
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:50 am

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Mannixa Prime wrote:How can you comment about Middle Eastern issues and not understand the motive for Israeli aggression?

They want to prop up their Sunni puppets and achieve Greater Israel by using said Sunni puppets to seize territory from their rivals.

Israel along with Saudi Arabia are some of the worlds biggest sponsors of terrorism, after the USA of course.


Honestly this reads like Iranian propaganda.

“Everything I don’t like is racist/Iranian/Syrian propaganda”

Israel is a terrorist state, extremely racist, and they are committing genocide on a large scale
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:51 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:'Zionism' is the political movement to establish a Jewish state in Palestine. Maybe you should reword/clarify that, perhaps writing "Zionist world order" or "Zionist conspiracy" instead.


I'm well aware of what Zionism is, yet I rarely see anybody use the term in it's proper context and instead as a byword for racist conspiracy theories involving Jewish world domination.

Most instances of people using the word 'Zionism' that I see are simply referring to its proper context. Of course, if you spend a lot of times on places like /pol/, then naturally you're going to be exposed to its other connotation.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:52 am

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Greater Cesnica wrote:Again, why don't you look at all the articles that have been sent here from outside sources?


You mean the articles that say nothing new and just echo the fact the Syrians claim they were attacked?

Israel has admitted numerous times they carry out illegal operations in Syria and Iraq.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:52 am

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Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Honestly this reads like Iranian propaganda.


“Everything I don’t like is racist/Iranian/Syrian propaganda”

Israel is a terrorist state, extremely racist, and they are committing genocide on a large scale


Israel is a belligerent ethnostate. I won't deny that.

But the opposition is hardly any better.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:52 am

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You mean the articles that say nothing new and just echo the fact the Syrians claim they were attacked?

Israel has admitted numerous times they carry out illegal operations in Syria and Iraq.


Yes, but have they admitted to this particular instance?
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:55 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Israel has admitted numerous times they carry out illegal operations in Syria and Iraq.


Yes, but have they admitted to this particular instance?

Why are you so hung up over this one incident? Israel has been subverting the will of legitimate nations in the Middle East for decades. They regularly arm and support groups like Isis.

Iran, Syria and many Iraqis are committed to ending terrorism so yes they are a million times better.

Those three mind there own business. Israel and their Gulf state buddies and Kurdish proxies stick their nose everywhere.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:58 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Yes, but have they admitted to this particular instance?

Why are you so hung up over this one incident? Israel has been subverting the will of legitimate nations in the Middle East for decades. They regularly arm and support groups like Isis.

Iran, Syria and many Iraqis are committed to ending terrorism so yes they are a million times better.

Those three mind there own business. Israel and their Gulf state buddies and Kurdish proxies stick their nose everywhere.

"Kurdish proxies" is a conspiracy theory my dude. Should have left it at Israel and Gulf buddies. And even if they do receive funding from the same people that fund ISIS, it is what it is. The Kurds should have their own state too.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:03 pm

Mannixa Prime wrote:Why are you so hung up over this one incident?


I'm not? Syria claims Israel attacked it. This has not been confirmed. Syria has reason to lie. Israel appears to have no motive. I'm waiting for the facts instead of jumping to conclusions by buying a ticket for the Israel Hate Train.

Just because Israel does this "all the time" doesn't mean they did in this instance. Right now it sounds like a false-flag. If I'm wrong, so be it, but I'll wait to be proven wrong first before I recant my stance.

Israel has been subverting the will of legitimate nations in the Middle East for decades.


So have Saudi Arabia and Iran.

They regularly arm and support groups like Isis.


So have Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestine, the UAE, Yemen, Egypt, Turkey, Afghanistan, Lebanon... I could go on.

Iran, Syria and many Iraqis are committed to ending terrorism so yes they are a million times better.


Iran funds terrorists, Syria isn't much of an improvement, and Iraq is in Iran's pocket. They are not "a million times better". That's pure bullshit.

Those three mins there own business.


Lol no they don't.

Israel and their Gulf state buddies and Kurdish proxies stick their nose everywhere.


I think it's funny that you accused me of being a Zionist shill, yet you're the one shilling. I recognize and condemn Israel's antics and the antics of their allies. I also condemn the antics of Iran and their allies. Meanwhile, you only condemn one side and not the other.

If you really think there are any "good guys" in this conflict then you're huffing paint.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:07 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Why are you so hung up over this one incident?


I'm not? Syria claims Israel attacked it. This has not been confirmed. Syria has reason to lie. Israel appears to have no motive. I'm waiting for the facts instead of jumping to conclusions by buying a ticket for the Israel Hate Train.

Just because Israel does this "all the time" doesn't mean they did in this instance. Right now it sounds like a false-flag. If I'm wrong, so be it, but I'll wait to be proven wrong first before I recant my stance.

Israel has been subverting the will of legitimate nations in the Middle East for decades.


So have Saudi Arabia and Iran.

They regularly arm and support groups like Isis.


So have Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestine, the UAE, Yemen, Egypt, Turkey, Afghanistan, Lebanon... I could go on.

Iran, Syria and many Iraqis are committed to ending terrorism so yes they are a million times better.


Iran funds terrorists, Syria isn't much of an improvement, and Iraq is in Iran's pocket. They are not "a million times better". That's pure bullshit.

Those three mins there own business.


Lol no they don't.

Israel and their Gulf state buddies and Kurdish proxies stick their nose everywhere.


I think it's funny that you accused me of being a Zionist shill, yet you're the one shilling. I recognize and condemn Israel's antics and the antics of their allies. I also condemn the antics of Iran and their allies. Meanwhile, you only condemn one side and not the other.

If you really think there are any "good guys" in this conflict then you're huffing paint.

>Iran, Yemen, and Lebanon back ISIS
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I suppose you think the Houthis and ISIS are buddies right? Also that Iran and Saudi Arabia are good old buds?
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:08 pm

Condemning all sides in relation to Middle Eastern issues doesn’t make any sense.

Iran and Syria are not the rebel alliance by any means but both countries along with Iraq are legitimate nation-states who DO NOT sponsor terrorism or interfere in other nations.


Any reaction from Syria and Iran is a response to Israeli war crimes, Israeli terrorism and overall Zionist aggression.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:09 pm

Mannixa Prime wrote:Condemning all sides in relation to Middle Eastern issues doesn’t make any sense.

Iran and Syria are not the rebel alliance by any means but both countries along with Iraq are legitimate nation-states who DO NOT sponsor terrorism or interfere in other nations.


Any reaction from Syria and Iran is a response to Israeli war crimes, Israeli terrorism and overall Zionist aggression.

Well, that depends on whether you consider Hezbollah a terrorist group.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:10 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Condemning all sides in relation to Middle Eastern issues doesn’t make any sense.

Iran and Syria are not the rebel alliance by any means but both countries along with Iraq are legitimate nation-states who DO NOT sponsor terrorism or interfere in other nations.


Any reaction from Syria and Iran is a response to Israeli war crimes, Israeli terrorism and overall Zionist aggression.

Well, that depends on whether you consider Hezbollah a terrorist group.

In my opinion they are not.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:11 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
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I'm not? Syria claims Israel attacked it. This has not been confirmed. Syria has reason to lie. Israel appears to have no motive. I'm waiting for the facts instead of jumping to conclusions by buying a ticket for the Israel Hate Train.

Just because Israel does this "all the time" doesn't mean they did in this instance. Right now it sounds like a false-flag. If I'm wrong, so be it, but I'll wait to be proven wrong first before I recant my stance.



So have Saudi Arabia and Iran.



So have Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestine, the UAE, Yemen, Egypt, Turkey, Afghanistan, Lebanon... I could go on.



Iran funds terrorists, Syria isn't much of an improvement, and Iraq is in Iran's pocket. They are not "a million times better". That's pure bullshit.



Lol no they don't.



I think it's funny that you accused me of being a Zionist shill, yet you're the one shilling. I recognize and condemn Israel's antics and the antics of their allies. I also condemn the antics of Iran and their allies. Meanwhile, you only condemn one side and not the other.

If you really think there are any "good guys" in this conflict then you're huffing paint.

>Iran, Yemen, and Lebanon back ISIS
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I suppose you think the Houthis and ISIS are buddies right?


Funny. I don't recall ever saying Iran, Yemen, and Lebanon back ISIS.

What I recall was Mannixa saying that Israel backed groups "like ISIS". Now, I'm not sure if you're aware, but being "like ISIS" and "literally ISIS" are two very different things. One is ISIS; the other is similar yet distinct from ISIS. You know, like Hezbollah. Or Hamas. Both of which have been backed by Iran, for example.

But hey, who cares about facts when you can twist someone's words instead? :roll:
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:12 pm

Middle Barael wrote:Seriously? What has Netanyahu done now?

Commiting more war crimes, as expected.
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Middle Barael wrote:Seriously? What has Netanyahu done now?

War crimes, again
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:14 pm

Mannixa Prime wrote:Condemning all sides in relation to Middle Eastern issues doesn’t make any sense.

Iran and Syria are not the rebel alliance by any means but both countries along with Iraq are legitimate nation-states who DO NOT sponsor terrorism or interfere in other nations.


Any reaction from Syria and Iran is a response to Israeli war crimes, Israeli terrorism and overall Zionist aggression.


This is the "Soviets were better than Nazis so their war crimes get a pass" mentality. And it's literally disgusting.

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Greater Cesnica wrote:Well, that depends on whether you consider Hezbollah a terrorist group.

In my opinion they are not.


That's cool, bro. Unfortunately your opinion is irrelevant.

A terrorist organization is defined as an organized that commits attacks intended to incite fear and panic in civilians. Hezbollah has done and still does this. They are a terror group by definition. But hey, as long as it's "my guys" doing it it's okay right?
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:15 pm

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Greater Cesnica wrote:>Iran, Yemen, and Lebanon back ISIS
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I suppose you think the Houthis and ISIS are buddies right?


Funny. I don't recall ever saying Iran, Yemen, and Lebanon back ISIS.

What I recall was Mannixa saying that Israel backed groups "like ISIS". Now, I'm not sure if you're aware, but being "like ISIS" and "literally ISIS" are two very different things. One is ISIS; the other is similar yet distinct from ISIS. You know, like Hezbollah. Or Hamas. Both of which have been backed by Iran, for example.

But hey, who cares about facts when you can twist someone's words instead? :roll:

Daesh and Hezbollah/Hamas are not even comparable.
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Funny. I don't recall ever saying Iran, Yemen, and Lebanon back ISIS.

What I recall was Mannixa saying that Israel backed groups "like ISIS". Now, I'm not sure if you're aware, but being "like ISIS" and "literally ISIS" are two very different things. One is ISIS; the other is similar yet distinct from ISIS. You know, like Hezbollah. Or Hamas. Both of which have been backed by Iran, for example.

But hey, who cares about facts when you can twist someone's words instead? :roll:

Daesh and Hezbollah/Hamas are not even comparable.


Terror groups aren't comparable to terror groups? That doesn't sound right...
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:17 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Condemning all sides in relation to Middle Eastern issues doesn’t make any sense.

Iran and Syria are not the rebel alliance by any means but both countries along with Iraq are legitimate nation-states who DO NOT sponsor terrorism or interfere in other nations.


Any reaction from Syria and Iran is a response to Israeli war crimes, Israeli terrorism and overall Zionist aggression.


This is the "Soviets were better than Nazis so their war crimes get a pass" mentality. And it's literally disgusting.

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If my opinion is not relevant why bother responding?

And not to get off track but yes the Soviet Union is worse than the Third Reich and by allying with the West lost all moral justification.
In my opinion they are not.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:17 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Daesh and Hezbollah/Hamas are not even comparable.


Terror groups aren't comparable to terror groups? That doesn't sound right...

Show me where Hezbollah and Hamas commit mass rape, where they have a policy of killing Christians, where they advocate for the slavery of women, where they are armed by the Gulf nations/Turkey and other associated entities, where they kill other Muslims for not conforming to a very strict, puritan, degenerate strain of Salafism?
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:19 pm

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Greater Cesnica wrote:Daesh and Hezbollah/Hamas are not even comparable.


Terror groups aren't comparable to terror groups? That doesn't sound right...

Hezbollah is not a terrorist group
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:20 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Terror groups aren't comparable to terror groups? That doesn't sound right...

Show me where Hezbollah and Hamas commit mass rape, where they have a policy of killing Christians, where they advocate for the slavery of women, where they are armed by the Gulf nations/Turkey and other associated entities, where they kill other Muslims for not conforming to a very strict, puritan, degenerate strain of Salafism?


Terrorists are terrorists. Some are worse than others, but at the end of the day they're all the same kind of scum: murderous butchers and gutless cowards. It's not a competition.
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