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Is Hexing/Cursing Minors Ever Okay?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:55 pm
by Bluepillar
Some of us here aren't completely oblivious to the fact that something called the left hand path, and similar things, exist, so I've come to ask a question.

is hexing minors ever okay? I'm not sure how to feel about it, tbh. Minors are obviously capable of unforgiving crimes so in those circumstances it's understandable, but what about outside of those? and even then isn't it questionable?

disclaimer: It doesn't matter whether you think it's real or not, so keep the insults t9 others' religions out kindly. please. i do not want moderators having to come to this thread :(

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:04 pm
by Albrenia
Well I don't believe in magic, but since you asked nicely I'll approach this topic as if I did.

What does 'Hexing' do, in this case? I'd imagine the morality of it would be similar to doing something mundane with a similar effect.

Generally one should not harm minors, and offer them more openness to rehabilitation than others would normally get seeing as everyone's a dumbass at least one point or another in their early lives.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:08 pm
by Bluepillar
Albrenia wrote:Well I don't believe in magic, but since you asked nicely I'll approach this topic as if I did.

What does 'Hexing' do, in this case? I'd imagine the morality of it would be similar to doing something mundane with a similar effect.

Generally one should not harm minors, and offer them more openness to rehabilitation than others would normally get seeing as everyone's a dumbass at least one point or another in their early lives.


a hex is a curse, and can actually be quite draining or expensive or costly to do, depending on religion, path, and.method. sometimes it involves sacrifice of living animals, or harm to self. other times it's just a nife letter you write to your God asking for a favor. and other.times it's focusing on thoughts of harm to another person (think homicidal meditation)

sometimes the goal is to teach through positive or negative reinforcement (a spell of learning), other times it's to kill... and sometiems when people hex, they do more than casting and leaving it, and actively seek to destroy the other person in some way.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:11 pm
by Old Tanokiana
Well of course it's wrong. Will it stop someone from hexing a kid though? Probably not.

In the Philippines I can go to my local witch doctor and tell them to curse a rich couple, all for 20 bucks or some weird fetch quest for a Kapre's tooth. The only thing that stands in your way really is if you believe in Christ or Allah.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:11 pm
by Neanderthaland
Only if they dig too greedily and too deep.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:12 pm
by Infected Mushroom
I don’t think it’s okay to place magical curses on children.

This isn’t something I’d want. Children shouldn’t be hexed. Children should be happy and be in a safe learning environment. Children should be healthy. Children shouldn’t be cursed.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:13 pm
by The Holy Therns
I'm not sure. Will it perhaps teach future generations of children a valuable moral lesson?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:19 pm
by Bluepillar
Old Tanokiana wrote:Well of course it's wrong. Will it stop someone from hexing a kid though? Probably not.

In the Philippines I can go to my local witch doctor and tell them to curse a rich couple, all for 20 bucks or some weird fetch quest for a Kapre's tooth. The only thing that stands in your way really is if you believe in Christ or Allah.


that's sooo cheap.

The Holy Therns wrote:I'm not sure. Will it perhaps teach future generations of children a valuable moral lesson?


uhhh...not a future generation, but perhaps the minor

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:22 pm
by Bluepillar
Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t think it’s okay to place magical curses on children.

This isn’t something I’d want. Children shouldn’t be hexed. Children should be happy and be in a safe learning environment. Children should be healthy. Children shouldn’t be cursed.


what if they commit a violent crime or.generally unforgivable act that i cant mention wjthiut a trigger warning?

and less so young children, more so... like...14 to17 year olds.

there are ways to stop someone from accessing magicks, and if they targeted young children that's probajly what I'd hope to achieve

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:24 pm
by Infected Mushroom
Bluepillar wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I don’t think it’s okay to place magical curses on children.

This isn’t something I’d want. Children shouldn’t be hexed. Children should be happy and be in a safe learning environment. Children should be healthy. Children shouldn’t be cursed.


what if they commit a violent crime or.generally unforgivable act that i cant mention wjthiut a trigger warning?

and less so young children, more so... like...14 to17 year olds.

there are ways to stop someone from accessing magicks, and if they targeted young children that's probajly what I'd hope to achieve


What would the effect of casting a curse on a child be?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:31 pm
by Bluepillar
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Bluepillar wrote:
well, I'm not the one that's doing it, so idk the specifics, but curses are never intended to do good.
what if they commit a violent crime or.generally unforgivable act that i cant mention wjthiut a trigger warning?

and less so young children, more so... like...14 to17 year olds.

there are ways to stop someone from accessing magicks, and if they targeted young children that's probajly what I'd hope to achieve


What would the effect of casting a curse on a child be?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:34 pm
by Radiatia
I'm sorry, I had a few drinks last night and appear to have woken up in the 16th century. Why the hell are we all casually discussing this as if there's any chance any of this is remotely real?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:36 pm
by Xmara
Radiatia wrote:I'm sorry, I had a few drinks last night and appear to have woken up in the 16th century. Why the hell are we all casually discussing this as if there's any chance any of this is remotely real?

Possibly because neopaganism is seeing a resurgence in the 21st century.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:36 pm
by Farnhamia
Radiatia wrote:I'm sorry, I had a few drinks last night and appear to have woken up in the 16th century. Why the hell are we all casually discussing this as if there's any chance any of this is remotely real?

We have threads on Christianity, Judaism, Islam ... This is basically about an aspect of black magic (the left-hand path), which is sort of, kind of a religion or a philosophy or ... something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-hand ... -hand_path

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:37 pm
by Bluepillar
Radiatia wrote:I'm sorry, I had a few drinks last night and appear to have woken up in the 16th century. Why the hell are we all casually discussing this as if there's any chance any of this is remotely real?


a.) see disclaimer
b.) dont call others religions fake. thats.not okay. you should know not to be so arrogant in the own supremacy of your own world view by now.
c.) did you not notice that witches are /everywhere/? there are oger a million in America according to statistics, but I happen to be fairly certain there are more than that cause I'm fairlt secretive

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:37 pm
by Valentine Z
If I ever learned that there's such magic, I would have wasted no time in giving everyone a strawberry ice-cream.

Just a normal one, no curses, no drawbacks. Just wholesome magic, come on.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:39 pm
by Giovenith
Yes, because there's no such thing as magic.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:41 pm
by Xmara
Valentine Z wrote:If I ever learned that there's such magic, I would have wasted no time in giving everyone a strawberry ice-cream.

Just a normal one, no curses, no drawbacks. Just wholesome magic, come on.

Can you make mine cookie dough flavored?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:41 pm
by Geneviev
Bluepillar wrote:
Radiatia wrote:I'm sorry, I had a few drinks last night and appear to have woken up in the 16th century. Why the hell are we all casually discussing this as if there's any chance any of this is remotely real?


a.) see disclaimer
b.) dont call others religions fake. thats.not okay. you should know not to be so arrogant in the own supremacy of your own world view by now.
c.) did you not notice that witches are /everywhere/? there are oger a million in America according to statistics, but I happen to be fairly certain there are more than that cause I'm fairlt secretive

This is NSG. People call other religions fake all the time.

That being said, I don't believe in this, but if I did then anything that harms anyone else, especially a child, is disgusting and never acceptable for any reason whatsoever.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:43 pm
by Northwest Slobovia
Bluepillar wrote:
Radiatia wrote:I'm sorry, I had a few drinks last night and appear to have woken up in the 16th century. Why the hell are we all casually discussing this as if there's any chance any of this is remotely real?


a.) see disclaimer
b.) dont call others religions fake. thats.not okay. you should know not to be so arrogant in the own supremacy of your own world view by now.
c.) did you not notice that witches are /everywhere/? there are oger a million in America according to statistics, but I happen to be fairly certain there are more than that cause I'm fairlt secretive

NSG is OOC. :p

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:43 pm
by Salus Maior
I don't really believe in the common idea and practice of magic.

That being said, probably not ok to will grievous harm on a minor, no.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:46 pm
by Valentine Z
Xmara wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:If I ever learned that there's such magic, I would have wasted no time in giving everyone a strawberry ice-cream.

Just a normal one, no curses, no drawbacks. Just wholesome magic, come on.

Can you make mine cookie dough flavored?

Oh, certainly! Said the magic words: Ala-ka-yum. :P

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For the topic, let's just assume magic does happen. You know how I feel about cursing or hexing even towards an adult, so... A kid is a no-no, like why in the world would I ever do that?

Maybe less of a curse, and just gonna use my magic to make their chairs uneven and wobble, but that would be as far as I would go!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:47 pm
by Bluepillar
Geneviev wrote:
Bluepillar wrote:
a.) see disclaimer
b.) dont call others religions fake. thats.not okay. you should know not to be so arrogant in the own supremacy of your own world view by now.
c.) did you not notice that witches are /everywhere/? there are oger a million in America according to statistics, but I happen to be fairly certain there are more than that cause I'm fairlt secretive

This is NSG. People call other religions fake all the time.

That being said, I don't believe in this, but if I did then anything that harms anyone else, especially a child, is disgusting and never acceptable for any reason whatsoever.


the only people i say have a fake and or harmful religion tend to be Mormons, Catholics, and Scientologists, and even then most Mormons and Catholics I've mer seem pretty chill. It's more so the upper echelons i have a problem with. buf, uh, abuse of authority is a discussion for elsewhere.

What Im.getting at is that people might want to learn to stay on topic, and can pent their global fedora endeavor on 4chan with the rest of the joyless people. idc really you believe in it or not, but unlike some in this thread I will actually engage in the conversations prompted or leave/ignore them instead of taking up space that could be useful for other things - like said conversation

but they might not,and that's okay.

And I see. Yeah. I find people that have violent thoughts about harming children to be sketchy at best tbh... like in any situation, whether or not you think magic is fake, putting so much time, effott, and thought into something so malicious is a bit much when it comes to children.

edit: oop. forgot to say, sometimes other ovcultists are definitely dangerous, and i dont mean cause they'll hex you. see the Order of Nine Angels. they tried to start a war by getting Jihadists toattack a group ofUS soldiers overseas. there's a lot more to them, but underestimating occultists as people that do things better left in the 16th century is itself dangerous because it forgets organizations like the Thule, and their influence on O9A and the Priesthood of Phinneas, both of which /sound/ fake but also definitely murder people. people that think occultists cant be dangerous live in a preciously naive world where demonologist neo-nazis dont exist.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:51 pm
by Bluepillar
Valentine Z wrote:
Xmara wrote:Can you make mine cookie dough flavored?

Oh, certainly! Said the magic words: Ala-ka-yum. :P

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For the topic, let's just assume magic does happen. You know how I feel about cursing or hexing even towards an adult, so... A kid is a no-no, like why in the world would I ever do that?

Maybe less of a curse, and just gonna use my magic to make their chairs uneven and wobble, but that would be as far as I would go!


witchcraft definitelt happens, and some of it js linked to human murder (see targeting of albinos in some places in the world), and others are literally harmless tree huggers. whether or notir does anything can be debated. this conversation is more so about intent and justification, not whetber witches are real - which they very much are (and they never stopped being real).

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:58 pm
by Senkaku
is kids getting turned into frogs or whatever enough of a problem in society that there needs to be a discussion of its morality lol