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Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:Let me rephrase: your saying that wizards don't really exist, but witches do, is exactly as factually supported as arguing that electric type Pokémon are better than water types. Or that a Chupacabra would beat a Jersey Devil in a fight.

And it's ironic that you go and complain about other people doubting the existence of hexes and witches, and then you immediately do the same about wizards.

Oh come on, I don't agree with that user either, but you have to know how uncharitable that is.

They were clearly talking about how, in general, you don't see a lot of people call themselves wizards. If you're going to argue against someone, at least show them some common dignity, for fuck's sake.

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:Let me rephrase: your saying that wizards don't really exist, but witches do, is exactly as factually supported as arguing that electric type Pokémon are better than water types. Or that a Chupacabra would beat a Jersey Devil in a fight.

And it's ironic that you go and complain about other people doubting the existence of hexes and witches, and then you immediately do the same about wizards.

Oh come on, I don't agree with that user either, but you have to know how uncharitable that is.

They were clearly talking about how, in general, you don't see a lot of people call themselves wizards. If you're going to argue against someone, at least show them some common dignity, for fuck's sake.

Neanderthaland wrote:

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:Oh come on, I don't agree with that user either, but you have to know how uncharitable that is.

They were clearly talking about how, in general, you don't see a lot of people call themselves wizards. If you're going to argue against someone, at least show them some common dignity, for fuck's sake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard

Took all of two seconds.

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard

Took all of two seconds.

You're doing nothing but prove my point here. In wicca, practitioners don't particularly call themselves wizards, and in general, most people that use the occult don't, either.

Congratulations, you found out that the Ku Klux Klan uses the title of Grand Wizard for their leaders. It's been a long time since I've seen this level of bad faith in an argument, so I'll just leave you to it.

Alvecia wrote:

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:Oh come on, I don't agree with that user either, but you have to know how uncharitable that is.

They were clearly talking about how, in general, you don't see a lot of people call themselves wizards. If you're going to argue against someone, at least show them some common dignity, for fuck's sake.

Beyond the obvious above, depending on your definition, there are probably as many "wizards" as witches.

Like, is a wizard a specific term, or is it just a bloke who thinks he can use magic?

Nakena wrote:There used to be a socialist Magocracy guy here too. He got re(?)-DOS'ed tough.

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:Let me rephrase: your saying that wizards don't really exist, but witches do, is exactly as factually supported as arguing that electric type Pokémon are better than water types. Or that a Chupacabra would beat a Jersey Devil in a fight.

And it's ironic that you go and complain about other people doubting the existence of hexes and witches, and then you immediately do the same about wizards.

Oh come on, I don't agree with that user either, but you have to know how uncharitable that is.

They were clearly talking about how, in general, you don't see a lot of people call themselves wizards. If you're going to argue against someone, at least show them some common dignity, for fuck's sake.

Nakena wrote:There used to be a socialist Magocracy guy here too. He got re(?)-DOS'ed tough.

Neanderthaland wrote:

Nakena wrote:There used to be a socialist Magocracy guy here too. He got re(?)-DOS'ed tough.

Got the last laugh though. Cursed NSGers to have no social life.

Odreria wrote:

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:Oh come on, I don't agree with that user either, but you have to know how uncharitable that is.

They were clearly talking about how, in general, you don't see a lot of people call themselves wizards. If you're going to argue against someone, at least show them some common dignity, for fuck's sake.

I am a wizard of the realm! gimme some validation

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:

Nakena wrote:There used to be a socialist Magocracy guy here too. He got re(?)-DOS'ed tough.

There was?

Neanderthaland wrote:

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:You're doing nothing but prove my point here. In wicca, practitioners don't particularly call themselves wizards, and in general, most people that use the occult don't, either.

I don't particularly care what wicca does. Wicca doesn't have a monopoly on magic claims.

Congratulations, you found out that the Ku Klux Klan uses the title of Grand Wizard for their leaders. It's been a long time since I've seen this level of bad faith in an argument, so I'll just leave you to it.

K. I mean, you were just asking about people calling themselves wizards. So I very easily found some. I bet I could find more.

Nakena wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
There was?

Yeah. He kept opening threads about the inevitability of communism and hat a catboy avatar and was into legalism.

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:I don't particularly care what wicca does. Wicca doesn't have a monopoly on magic claims.


K. I mean, you were just asking about people calling themselves wizards. So I very easily found some. I bet I could find more.

I'm sorry, I assumed you knew what I meant considering the context of the conversation. I was trying to say that it was unusual for people who practice magic (whether it's real or not, and I tend to believe it's not) to call themselves wizards, and that's clearly what Bluepillar was talking about.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:

Nakena wrote:
Yeah. He kept opening threads about the inevitability of communism and hat a catboy avatar and was into legalism.

Don’t recall. They probably drank the KoolAid too long and I didn’t pay attention to their ramblings. *shrug*

Nakena wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Don’t recall. They probably drank the KoolAid too long and I didn’t pay attention to their ramblings. *shrug*

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Nakena wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Don’t recall. They probably drank the KoolAid too long and I didn’t pay attention to their ramblings. *shrug*

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Neanderthaland wrote:

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:I'm sorry, I assumed you knew what I meant considering the context of the conversation. I was trying to say that it was unusual for people who practice magic (whether it's real or not, and I tend to believe it's not) to call themselves wizards, and that's clearly what Bluepillar was talking about.

Yeah, but so what? If even one person does it, they have just as much credibility as a million people calling themselves witches. None.

Neanderthaland wrote:And it's ironic that you go and complain about other people doubting the existence of hexes and witches, and then you immediately do the same about wizards.

Neanderthaland wrote:

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:I'm sorry, I assumed you knew what I meant considering the context of the conversation. I was trying to say that it was unusual for people who practice magic (whether it's real or not, and I tend to believe it's not) to call themselves wizards, and that's clearly what Bluepillar was talking about.

Yeah, but so what? If even one person does it, they have just as much credibility as a million people calling themselves witches. None.

Odreria wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:Yeah, but so what? If even one person does it, they have just as much credibility as a million people calling themselves witches. None.

This is bigotry. You are complicit in genocide unless you address and refer to me by my proper titles as a wizard of the realm of Andalusia Centauri.

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:Yeah, but so what? If even one person does it, they have just as much credibility as a million people calling themselves witches. None.

Do you still not see how that's still in really bad faith? Your initial argument was that somehow, that user was being a hypocrite because somehow they were making a truth claim about wizards.

Neanderthaland wrote:And it's ironic that you go and complain about other people doubting the existence of hexes and witches, and then you immediately do the same about wizards.

Whether magic is real or not is something I don't particularly care about, but if you're going to engage with a topic, at least do so in good faith. Otherwise you're just hogging up space on the board that could be used for interesting discussion to basically throw obfuscated insults around like a monkey throws its own shit.

Andsed wrote:

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:Do you still not see how that's still in really bad faith? Your initial argument was that somehow, that user was being a hypocrite because somehow they were making a truth claim about wizards.

Whether magic is real or not is something I don't particularly care about, but if you're going to engage with a topic, at least do so in good faith. Otherwise you're just hogging up space on the board that could be used for interesting discussion to basically throw obfuscated insults around like a monkey throws its own shit.

Uh no? If your going to claim someone is in bad faith actually address their arguments. Because Neanderthaland was very clearly pointing out that it was hypocritical for Bluepillar to use how niche "wizards" are to discredit their beliefs while complaining about people doing the same to "witches."

Fyrn-Gestreon wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:Yeah, but so what? If even one person does it, they have just as much credibility as a million people calling themselves witches. None.

Do you still not see how that's still in really bad faith? Your initial argument was that somehow, that user was being a hypocrite because somehow they were making a truth claim about wizards.

Neanderthaland wrote:And it's ironic that you go and complain about other people doubting the existence of hexes and witches, and then you immediately do the same about wizards.

Whether magic is real or not is something I don't particularly care about, but if you're going to engage with a topic, at least do so in good faith. Otherwise you're just hogging up space on the board that could be used for interesting discussion to basically throw obfuscated insults around like a monkey throws its own shit.