Senkaku wrote:is kids getting turned into frogs or whatever enough of a problem in society that there needs to be a discussion of its morality lol
in the occult world, there's a group called the Order of Nine Angels. Google them. They tried to start a war. Think some sort of neo nazi demonology cult that focused too hard on the occult interests of certain Nazis. So, yeah, morality in occultism is a discussion that has to happen now, and soon, even if it's more broadly about whether or not it's okay to try to harm a massive demographic.