Israel boycott group declared anti-Semitic

[Nilokeras]

You may want to sit down for this. Did you know that sometimes... countries look the other way and ignore human rights issues in favour of their own political or economic interests. I know, it's a lot. Take your time to process it.

OK. Bad phrasing on my part ("int'l community"), I was not referencing other countries, but rather int'l activists.

So like Amnesty International, which has a long list of hot spot countries of which Israel is only one?

[Pope Saint Peter the Apostle]

OK. Bad phrasing on my part ("int'l community"), I was not referencing other countries, but rather int'l activists.

So like Amnesty International, which has a long list of hot spot countries of which Israel is only one?

Not sure AI is a useful example here, given that they don't support a general boycott of Israel, but rather a targeted settlement boycott, as far as I know.

[Greater Cesnica]

Criticism of Israel is not anti-semitic FFS.

[Odreria]

So like Amnesty International, which has a long list of hot spot countries of which Israel is only one?

Not sure AI is a useful example here, given that they don't support a general boycott of Israel, but rather a targeted settlement boycott, as far as I know.

compromise: targeted carpet nuking

[Greater Cesnica]

Good. The sooner BDS and likewise [other] anti-Jewish organisations are gone, the better.

Ah yes, criticism of Israel is anti-semitic. Gotcha.

I mean, the BDS is antisemitic. This isn't entirely a secret.

Yes, criticism of Israel maintaining an open air prison which they get to bombard with JDAMs on the regular, continually settling occupied territory, whitewashing a recent history of ethnic cleansing, and treating everyone from Muslims, Christians, and non-European Jews crappy is anti-semitic. Gotcha.

[Vassenor]

I mean, the BDS is antisemitic. This isn't entirely a secret.

So what anti-Semitic things do they do?

[VlaRiSsiA]

I mean, the BDS is antisemitic. This isn't entirely a secret.

So does that mean Free HK is sinophobic? Or the dissidents in Saudi Arabia are islamophobic? Or the Belarusian and Russian protests are anti-slavic? I can go on and on. Criticizing a cruel regime does not mean you hate their people.

[Nakena]

I mean, the BDS is antisemitic. This isn't entirely a secret.

So does that mean Free HK is sinophobic? Or the dissidents in Saudi Arabia are islamophobic? Or the Belarusian and Russian protests are anti-slavic? I can go on and on. Criticizing a cruel regime does not mean you hate their people.

BDS does target however the people not the government. Which why I am not fond of it. Also I like my israeli dead sea salt. Haha.

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

wow, not like Chastains attacked jerselum to start hmm a crusade. Do some more research and you will find out how violent chirtsnaity or Judaism was as well.

How dare they attempt to recapture a city captured by muslims. Seriously... people who point to crusades as some sort of monsterous act never seem to realize that they occured after the regions were conquered through a muslim crusade of their own. There were wars long before that even.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Good. Mike Pompeo is the best Secretary of State America has ever had and I'm sad to see him go. Joe Biden cannot be trusted to have Israel's back at all times. Donald Trump must leave as much of a lasting legacy as possible and make it exceedingly difficult for Biden to reverse Washington's Middle East policies.

As for BDS's antisemitism:

Respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN Resolution 194

Since its violent establishment in 1948 through the ethnic cleansing of more than half of the indigenous people of Palestine, Israel has set out to control as much land and uproot as many Palestinians as it can. As a result of this systematic forced displacement, there are now more than 7.25 million Palestinian refugees. They are denied their right to return to their homes simply because they are not Jewish.

If we cut through all the lies, bullshit, and historical revisionism in the quoted section alone, BDS is advocating that Israel, a majority-Jewish state, be flooded with millions of Palestinian "refugees", creating an Arab state next to an Arab state and eliminating the very raison d'etre for Israel's existence. BDS expects Israel to completely open up its borders and abolish its sovereignty and security while absolutely no demands are made of the Palestinians. This is exactly what far-right, Arab ultranationalists and radical Islamists have demanded all these years. This is tantamount to denying Israel's very right to exist as a Jewish state and is therefore nothing less than thinly-veiled antisemitism.

[Vassenor]

wow, not like Chastains attacked jerselum to start hmm a crusade. Do some more research and you will find out how violent chirtsnaity or Judaism was as well.

How dare they attempt to recapture a city captured by muslims. Seriously... people who point to crusades as some sort of monsterous act never seem to realize that they occured after the regions were conquered through a muslim crusade of their own. There were wars long before that even.

And that is a really reductive view of why the Crusades happened. The First Crusade was about trying to strong-arm the Byzantines back into the Catholic fold by bailing them out in a war against the Seljuks.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Tricky business, this.

There's a long enough history that a whole range of valid criticisms of Israel's behaviour are hard to make without obliquely touching upon something that someone can claim looks like an anti-semitic trope that has previously been in circulation.

Israel and individual leaders are as capable of being cruel in politics or manipulative in lobbying as the rest of us, but when they are so it is exceedingly difficult to comment on it in a way that is permitted.

[Odreria]

Tricky business, this.

There's a long enough history that a whole range of valid criticisms of Israel's behaviour are hard to make without obliquely touching upon something that someone can claim looks like an anti-semitic trope that has previously been in circulation.

Israel and individual leaders are as capable of being cruel in politics or manipulative in lobbying as the rest of us, but when they are so it is exceedingly difficult to comment on it in a way that is permitted.

"anti semitic trope" is just liberal code for socialism.

[Insaanistan]

Good. Mike Pompeo is the best Secretary of State America has ever had and I'm sad to see him go. Joe Biden cannot be trusted to have Israel's back at all times. Donald Trump must leave as much of a lasting legacy as possible and make it exceedingly difficult for Biden to reverse Washington's Middle East policies.

As for BDS's antisemitism:

Respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN Resolution 194

Since its violent establishment in 1948 through the ethnic cleansing of more than half of the indigenous people of Palestine, Israel has set out to control as much land and uproot as many Palestinians as it can. As a result of this systematic forced displacement, there are now more than 7.25 million Palestinian refugees. They are denied their right to return to their homes simply because they are not Jewish.

If we cut through all the lies, bullshit, and historical revisionism in the quoted section alone, BDS is advocating that Israel, a majority-Jewish state, be flooded with millions of Palestinian "refugees", creating an Arab state next to an Arab state and eliminating the very raison d'etre for Israel's existence. BDS expects Israel to completely open up its borders and abolish its sovereignty and security while absolutely no demands are made of the Palestinians. This is exactly what far-right, Arab ultranationalists and radical Islamists have demanded all these years. This is tantamount to denying Israel's very right to exist as a Jewish state and is therefore nothing less than thinly-veiled antisemitism.

I was wondering how long before GHK found this and pretended having sympathy for the deaths of innocent Palestinians (including children) at the hands of the IDF and pointing out Israel continuously violates UN resolutions is anti-Semitic.

[VlaRiSsiA]

Good. Mike Pompeo is the best Secretary of State America has ever had and I'm sad to see him go. Joe Biden cannot be trusted to have Israel's back at all times. Donald Trump must leave as much of a lasting legacy as possible and make it exceedingly difficult for Biden to reverse Washington's Middle East policies.

As for BDS's antisemitism:



If we cut through all the lies, bullshit, and historical revisionism in the quoted section alone, BDS is advocating that Israel, a majority-Jewish state, be flooded with millions of Palestinian "refugees", creating an Arab state next to an Arab state and eliminating the very raison d'etre for Israel's existence. BDS expects Israel to completely open up its borders and abolish its sovereignty and security while absolutely no demands are made of the Palestinians. This is exactly what far-right, Arab ultranationalists and radical Islamists have demanded all these years. This is tantamount to denying Israel's very right to exist as a Jewish state and is therefore nothing less than thinly-veiled antisemitism.

I was wondering how long before GHK found this and pretended having sympathy for the deaths of innocent Palestinians (including children) at the hands of the IDF and pointing out Israel continuously violates UN resolutions is anti-Semitic.

I think we all were waiting for the inevitable heavily polarized statement GHK would make

[Greater Cesnica]

Good. Mike Pompeo is the best Secretary of State America has ever had and I'm sad to see him go. Joe Biden cannot be trusted to have Israel's back at all times. Donald Trump must leave as much of a lasting legacy as possible and make it exceedingly difficult for Biden to reverse Washington's Middle East policies.

As for BDS's antisemitism:

Respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN Resolution 194

Since its violent establishment in 1948 through the ethnic cleansing of more than half of the indigenous people of Palestine, Israel has set out to control as much land and uproot as many Palestinians as it can. As a result of this systematic forced displacement, there are now more than 7.25 million Palestinian refugees. They are denied their right to return to their homes simply because they are not Jewish.

If we cut through all the lies, bullshit, and historical revisionism in the quoted section alone, BDS is advocating that Israel, a majority-Jewish state, be flooded with millions of Palestinian "refugees", creating an Arab state next to an Arab state and eliminating the very raison d'etre for Israel's existence. BDS expects Israel to completely open up its borders and abolish its sovereignty and security while absolutely no demands are made of the Palestinians. This is exactly what far-right, Arab ultranationalists and radical Islamists have demanded all these years. This is tantamount to denying Israel's very right to exist as a Jewish state and is therefore nothing less than thinly-veiled antisemitism.

Israel doesn't have a "right" to exist. Zionism is divorced entirely from Orthodox Judaism, which stresses that a Jewish state not be formed until the advent of the Messiah.

[Vassenor]

I was wondering how long before GHK found this and pretended having sympathy for the deaths of innocent Palestinians (including children) at the hands of the IDF and pointing out Israel continuously violates UN resolutions is anti-Semitic.

I think we all were waiting for the inevitable heavily polarized statement GHK would make

And which would be incredibly hypocritical given their views on the Hong Kong situation.

[Greater Cesnica]

I think we all were waiting for the inevitable heavily polarized statement GHK would make

And which would be incredibly hypocritical given their views on the Hong Kong situation.

To be fair, hypocrisy is ripe on the pro-Zionist, pro-Israeli side.

[Kubra]

Good. Mike Pompeo is the best Secretary of State America has ever had and I'm sad to see him go. Joe Biden cannot be trusted to have Israel's back at all times. Donald Trump must leave as much of a lasting legacy as possible and make it exceedingly difficult for Biden to reverse Washington's Middle East policies.

As for BDS's antisemitism:



If we cut through all the lies, bullshit, and historical revisionism in the quoted section alone, BDS is advocating that Israel, a majority-Jewish state, be flooded with millions of Palestinian "refugees", creating an Arab state next to an Arab state and eliminating the very raison d'etre for Israel's existence. BDS expects Israel to completely open up its borders and abolish its sovereignty and security while absolutely no demands are made of the Palestinians. This is exactly what far-right, Arab ultranationalists and radical Islamists have demanded all these years. This is tantamount to denying Israel's very right to exist as a Jewish state and is therefore nothing less than thinly-veiled antisemitism.

Israel doesn't have a "right" to exist. Zionism is divorced entirely from Orthodox Judaism, which stresses that a Jewish state not be formed until the advent of the Messiah.

Israel has about as much right to exist as any other nation, man.
Which, well, could be quite a bit or none at all, depending on ones viewpoint.

[Insaanistan]

Good. Mike Pompeo is the best Secretary of State America has ever had and I'm sad to see him go. Joe Biden cannot be trusted to have Israel's back at all times. Donald Trump must leave as much of a lasting legacy as possible and make it exceedingly difficult for Biden to reverse Washington's Middle East policies.

As for BDS's antisemitism:



If we cut through all the lies, bullshit, and historical revisionism in the quoted section alone, BDS is advocating that Israel, a majority-Jewish state, be flooded with millions of Palestinian "refugees", creating an Arab state next to an Arab state and eliminating the very raison d'etre for Israel's existence. BDS expects Israel to completely open up its borders and abolish its sovereignty and security while absolutely no demands are made of the Palestinians. This is exactly what far-right, Arab ultranationalists and radical Islamists have demanded all these years. This is tantamount to denying Israel's very right to exist as a Jewish state and is therefore nothing less than thinly-veiled antisemitism.

Israel doesn't have a "right" to exist. Zionism is divorced entirely from Orthodox Judaism, which stresses that a Jewish state not be formed until the advent of the Messiah.

I’m also certain the Torah doesn’t say “And thee can treat the people already there as if they were mere pigs’ droppings. Turn them from their homes. Let them not have water. Let their children suffer because a guy in Ashkenazi with facial hair that looks like a wooden plank made you, my chosen people suffer.” Hence why so many rabbis protest against Israel and in support of Palestine.

[Greater Cesnica]

Israel doesn't have a "right" to exist. Zionism is divorced entirely from Orthodox Judaism, which stresses that a Jewish state not be formed until the advent of the Messiah.

Israel has about as much right to exist as any other nation, man.
Which, well, could be quite a bit or none at all, depending on ones viewpoint.

That's what I'm getting it. One can't elevate Israel's "right" to exist above the "right" of all other nations to exist.

[Greater Cesnica]

Israel doesn't have a "right" to exist. Zionism is divorced entirely from Orthodox Judaism, which stresses that a Jewish state not be formed until the advent of the Messiah.

I’m also certain the Torah doesn’t say “And thee can treat the people already there as if they were mere pigs’ droppings. Turn them from their homes. Let them not have water. Let their children suffer because a guy in Ashkenazi with facial hair that looks like a wooden plank made you, my chosen people suffer.” Hence why so many rabbis protest against Israel and in support of Palestine.

The Nerutei Karta comes to mind.

[Witiland]

wow, not like Chastains attacked jerselum to start hmm a crusade. Do some more research and you will find out how violent chirtsnaity or Judaism was as well.

How dare they attempt to recapture a city captured by muslims. Seriously... people who point to crusades as some sort of monsterous act never seem to realize that they occured after the regions were conquered through a muslim crusade of their own. There were wars long before that even.

But Jews, Christians and Muslims lived peacefully until the crusades.

[Odreria]

Good. Mike Pompeo is the best Secretary of State America has ever had and I'm sad to see him go. Joe Biden cannot be trusted to have Israel's back at all times. Donald Trump must leave as much of a lasting legacy as possible and make it exceedingly difficult for Biden to reverse Washington's Middle East policies.

As for BDS's antisemitism:



If we cut through all the lies, bullshit, and historical revisionism in the quoted section alone, BDS is advocating that Israel, a majority-Jewish state, be flooded with millions of Palestinian "refugees", creating an Arab state next to an Arab state and eliminating the very raison d'etre for Israel's existence. BDS expects Israel to completely open up its borders and abolish its sovereignty and security while absolutely no demands are made of the Palestinians. This is exactly what far-right, Arab ultranationalists and radical Islamists have demanded all these years. This is tantamount to denying Israel's very right to exist as a Jewish state and is therefore nothing less than thinly-veiled antisemitism.

Israel doesn't have a "right" to exist. Zionism is divorced entirely from Orthodox Judaism, which stresses that a Jewish state not be formed until the advent of the Messiah.

Watch out, the powers that be have decided that saying that not all Jews have the same opinion is an anti semitic trope.

[Shin-Mutsu]

What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?