NationStates

Greater Cesnica wrote:

Kubra wrote: Israel has about as much right to exist as any other nation, man.
Which, well, could be quite a bit or none at all, depending on ones viewpoint.

That's what I'm getting it. One can't elevate Israel's "right" to exist above the "right" of all other nations to exist.

Oh, of course. I apologise for misinterpreting.

Witiland wrote:

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:How dare they attempt to recapture a city captured by muslims. Seriously... people who point to crusades as some sort of monsterous act never seem to realize that they occured after the regions were conquered through a muslim crusade of their own. There were wars long before that even.

But Jews, Christians and Muslims lived peacefully until the crusades.

They also lived peacefully amongst one another under Ottoman administration of Palestine, especially in Jerusalem; where the populations of each respective religion were roughly equal with one another.

Shin-Mutsu wrote:What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?

Why not Newfoundland or Madagascar?

Shin-Mutsu wrote:What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?

Well, is there a native population there? Do they want their land to be allocated for this end? Again, such a homeland violates the tenets of Orthodox Judaism. And, it wouldn't nearly be as palatable to settle in as the literal Holy Land.

Nakena wrote:

Shin-Mutsu wrote:What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?

Why not Newfoundland or Madagascar?

As a Canadian, I don't think the newfies would appreciate that.

EDIT: Dang, good job on 12,000 posts!

This is ridiculous. An individual or group can choose to boycott Israel for its policies without being anti-Semitic, just as in the case of any other country.

This compleatly is misunderstanding the mission and purpose of Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions, which is to protest Israeli occupation of Palæstinian lands and its treatment of the native Arab population.

Shin-Mutsu wrote:What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?

Much better yes i get the whole, "Oh Israel lived their and conquered the caanaties" however after Rome fell they spread across the world so a think Europe would be better. Ending this conflict might help relations towards Iran and Pakistan.

Nakena wrote:

Shin-Mutsu wrote:What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?

Why not Newfoundland or Madagascar?

Because those aren't places with a history of Jewish people.

Shin-Mutsu wrote:What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?

Nah, Israel is already there and population transfers that aren't voluntary are messy business.
Ideally we'd go back to the west bank being annexed by Jordan and it becoming the refuge and nation for palestinians, but that's dead in the water insofar as there's a shit ton of refugees and no one willing to pay for their transitional accomodation, and of course Israel hella not wanting anyone but them to get the west bank. I mean the total dependence on Israeli infrastructure in the west bank means no one else *but* israel can end up with it.

Witiland wrote:

Shin-Mutsu wrote:What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?

Much better yes i get the whole, "Oh Israel lived their and conquered the caanaties" however after Rome fell they spread across the world so a think Europe would be better. Ending this conflict might help relations towards Iran and Pakistan.

Right, I believe maybe there should be an area of Western/Central set aside where Jews have traditionally prevalent, for example Germany. Germany could give some compensation for people to move there.

Shin-Mutsu wrote:What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?

No. Israel is the Jewish homeland, not Europe.

Albionist Great Britain wrote:

Shin-Mutsu wrote:What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?

No. Israel is the Jewish homeland, not Europe.

So you would reject creating a Jewish nation in Europe?

Deacarsia wrote:This is ridiculous. An individual or group can choose to boycott Israel for its policies without being anti-Semitic, just as in the case of any other country.

This compleatly is misunderstanding the mission and purpose of Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions, which is to protest Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and its treatment of the native Arab population.

Brainwashing and media propaganda over the past 7 or so decades has instilled this instinctive taboo associated with criticism of Israel.

Albionist Great Britain wrote:

Shin-Mutsu wrote:What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?

No. Israel is the Jewish homeland, not Europe.

Are you familiar with Ashkenazis?

Shin-Mutsu wrote:

Albionist Great Britain wrote:
No. Israel is the Jewish homeland, not Europe.

So you would reject creating a Jewish nation in Europe?

the anti semitism... smh

Witiland wrote:

Shin-Mutsu wrote:What does everyone think about creating a second Israeli homeland in Europe for those who want to live there?

Much better yes i get the whole, "Oh Israel lived their and conquered the caanaties" however after Rome fell they spread across the world so a think Europe would be better. Ending this conflict might help relations towards Iran and Pakistan.

Who gives a damn about those countries, especially the Taliban-supporting Pakistanis and occupied Iran?

Shin-Mutsu wrote:

Albionist Great Britain wrote:
No. Israel is the Jewish homeland, not Europe.

So you would reject creating a Jewish nation in Europe?

If we seek to stick to Orthodox Judaism, one would have to reject all attempts at a Jewish nation.

Albionist Great Britain wrote:

Witiland wrote:

Much better yes i get the whole, "Oh Israel lived their and conquered the caanaties" however after Rome fell they spread across the world so a think Europe would be better. Ending this conflict might help relations towards Iran and Pakistan.

Who gives a damn about those countries, especially the Taliban-supporting Pakistanis and occupied Iran?

I find it ironic that you're so apathetic towards those countries, considering your flag.

Shin-Mutsu wrote:

Albionist Great Britain wrote:
No. Israel is the Jewish homeland, not Europe.

So you would reject creating a Jewish nation in Europe?

What gave you that idea?

Yes. Completely, utterly, no compromise.

Albionist Great Britain wrote:

Witiland wrote:

Much better yes i get the whole, "Oh Israel lived their and conquered the caanaties" however after Rome fell they spread across the world so a think Europe would be better. Ending this conflict might help relations towards Iran and Pakistan.

Who gives a damn about those countries, especially the Taliban-supporting Pakistanis and occupied Iran?

Quite a few people, most of all the hundreds of millions living in those countries.

Insaanistan wrote:

Albionist Great Britain wrote:
No. Israel is the Jewish homeland, not Europe.

Are you familiar with Ashkenazis?

Yes, I know what Ashkenazim are. They’re Jews, and Israel is the homeland of the Jews.

Albionist Great Britain wrote:

Witiland wrote:

Much better yes i get the whole, "Oh Israel lived their and conquered the caanaties" however after Rome fell they spread across the world so a think Europe would be better. Ending this conflict might help relations towards Iran and Pakistan.

Who gives a damn about those countries, especially the Taliban-supporting Pakistanis and occupied Iran?

Britain sure did.

Albionist Great Britain wrote:

Witiland wrote:

Much better yes i get the whole, "Oh Israel lived their and conquered the caanaties" however after Rome fell they spread across the world so a think Europe would be better. Ending this conflict might help relations towards Iran and Pakistan.

Who gives a damn about those countries, especially the Taliban-supporting Pakistanis and occupied Iran?

And your thinking is what caused the last war.... we should help everybody not just people are have the same values as us. Anyways its our fault that the middle east is so unstable (I mean America's fault) do your research you will see.

Greater Cesnica wrote:

Albionist Great Britain wrote:
Who gives a damn about those countries, especially the Taliban-supporting Pakistanis and occupied Iran?

I find it ironic that you're so apathetic towards those countries, considering your flag.

I despise Turkdom and support Armenia against Turks.

Shin-Mutsu wrote:

Albionist Great Britain wrote:
Who gives a damn about those countries, especially the Taliban-supporting Pakistanis and occupied Iran?

Quite a few people, most of all the hundreds of millions living in those countries.

And? What of them?

Albionist Great Britain wrote:

Insaanistan wrote:Are you familiar with Ashkenazis?

Yes, I know what Ashkenazim are. They’re Jews, and Israel is the homeland of the Jews.

They’re Jews, who are European. They also make up most of the Jews in Israel, and if I’m not mistaken, the world, too.