Israel boycott group declared anti-Semitic

[Neutraligon]

Oh no, I fully believe in Israel and do not consider any notion of Palestine legitimate.

Well then Israel is not fully legit either and should not be recognized.

Too late for that.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

They're Arabs, not "Palestinians". And they have no "right" to be in Judea & Samaria. Ditto the Golan Heights. The Israelis won the area in a war of national self-defense. The entire region belongs to them and they are free to annex and settle the region to their heart's content and unilaterally determine its final status with or without Palestinian input. Israeli territory. Israeli rules. Don't like it? Leave.

I could say the same thing about Hong Kong and China if I wanted to be particularly vindictive.

Hong Kong got handed over to China fair and square. The Hong Kong protests were crushed by the Chinese authority fair and square. Chinese territory. Chinese Rules. Don't like it? Leave.

Hong Kongers have never attempted to conquer Guangdong and exterminate the people of Shenzhen in a war of attempted genocide. Hong Kongers are not obsessed about "reclaiming" Guangdong or demanding a "right of return" to Shenzhen. They're not perpetrating suicide bombings against Mainlanders in the region. They're not naming streets and universities after terrorists and celebrating their "martyrdom" in the name of a jealous, vindictive god. They're not firing rockets into Shenzhen and Guangzhou or digging terror tunnels beneath the Sham Chun River in order to murder Mainland civilians of all ages. If they were, then you might have a point. Hong Kong would have absolutely no right to exist as a nation-state, China would be absolutely justified in placing the city-state under a land, sea, and naval blockade, and Mainlanders would be well within their rights to settle in Hong Kong en masse because at this point, HK people have squandered whatever goodwill they had left and deserve absolutely nothing but scraps.

None of this is true of Hong Kongers. But all of this is true of the Palestinians.

[Odreria]

No more slavery and Islamic terrorism, what a tragedy.

What slavery persists? What Islamic terrorism persists?

Yeah they got rid of the slavery in Tibet that’s the point.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Oh no, I fully believe in Israel and do not consider any notion of Palestine legitimate.

Well then Israel is not fully legit either and should not be recognized.

This is a childish, infantile response to actual geopolitical issues.

[Greater Cesnica]

Oh no, I fully believe in Israel and do not consider any notion of Palestine legitimate.

In the same breath as you say that people are deserved of their historic homelands you deny a right of a people to their own. You see the problem, no?

Hypocrisy is a given with apologists for the Israeli state.

[Albionist Great Britain]

Of a people the majority of whom migrated in reaction to the Jews returning home.



No, absolutely not. If the Kingdom of Jerusalem existed today, I’d advocate it’s violent overthrowal and restoration of Jewish sovereignty.

Serious question: do you support the ethnic cleansing of Christians and Muslims in the territory that Israel occupies? Do you justify the past ethnic cleansing?

Depends. Were they a security threat? If not, then no.

And which past ethnic cleansing?

[Albionist Great Britain]

Oh no, I fully believe in Israel and do not consider any notion of Palestine legitimate.

In the same breath as you say that people are deserved of their historic homelands you deny a right of a people to their own. You see the problem, no?
That you fully believe in Israel I none have denied, but the true why is something that remains to be seen.

Because there doesn’t exist a Palestine.

[Albionist Great Britain]

Oh no, I fully believe in Israel and do not consider any notion of Palestine legitimate.

Well then Israel is not fully legit either and should not be recognized.

Israel is wholly legitimate as the homeland of the Jews.

[Greater Cesnica]

Serious question: do you support the ethnic cleansing of Christians and Muslims in the territory that Israel occupies? Do you justify the past ethnic cleansing?

Depends. Were they a security threat? If not, then no.

And which past ethnic cleansing?

>ethnic cleansing is good if a population is a security threat


I don't know, the ethnic cleansing that happened from 1948-1949?

[Salus Maior]

What slavery persists? What Islamic terrorism persists?

Yeah they got rid of the slavery in Tibet that’s the point.

Then they filled it with wage slaves. What an improvement.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I could say the same thing about Hong Kong and China if I wanted to be particularly vindictive.

Hong Kong got handed over to China fair and square. The Hong Kong protests were crushed by the Chinese authority fair and square. Chinese territory. Chinese Rules. Don't like it? Leave.

Hong Kongers have never attempted to conquer Guangdong and exterminate the people of Shenzhen in a war of attempted genocide. Hong Kongers are not obsessed about "reclaiming" Guangdong or demanding a "right of return" to Shenzhen. They're not perpetrating suicide bombings against Mainlanders in the region. They're not naming streets and universities after terrorists and celebrating their "martyrdom" in the name of a jealous, vindictive god. They're not firing rockets into Shenzhen and Guangzhou or digging terror tunnels beneath the Sham Chun River in order to murder Mainland civilians of all ages. If they were, then you might have a point. Hong Kong would have absolutely no right to exist as a nation-state, China would be absolutely justified in placing the city-state under a land, sea, and naval blockade, and Mainlanders would be well within their rights to settle in Hong Kong en masse because at this point, HK people have squandered whatever goodwill they had left and deserve absolutely nothing but scraps.

None of this is true of Hong Kongers. But all of this is true of the Palestinians.

Of whom you know about zero. You haven't even been to the region and I doubt you've met many Arabs but when someone calls out your extremely stereotypical and unnuanced statements, you say we're brainwashed or somehow wrong.


I know many Palestinians. They deserve a homeland as much as the jews do, and I frankly don't see why Israel should be recognized but not the west Bank. Two states or no states, not this hypocritical status quo.

[Shin-Mutsu]

How about international administration of Jerusalem, and the re-establishment of the Palestinian state?

Honestly, international administration of Jerusalem is on my list of things that would probably be better than all of this.

Agreed.

[Arvenia]

In the same breath as you say that people are deserved of their historic homelands you deny a right of a people to their own. You see the problem, no?
That you fully believe in Israel I none have denied, but the true why is something that remains to be seen.

Because there doesn’t exist a Palestine.

I propose for a four-state solution, where Israel controls the land it already has, Palestine gets the West Bank, Egypt gets Gaza and Jerusalem becomes an internationally-administered city-state.

[Kungsu]

In the same breath as you say that people are deserved of their historic homelands you deny a right of a people to their own. You see the problem, no?
That you fully believe in Israel I none have denied, but the true why is something that remains to be seen.

Because there doesn’t exist a Palestine.

So if the Nazis managed to actually kill all the Jews, they would be in the right? "There aren't any Jews, so..."

[Kubra]

In the same breath as you say that people are deserved of their historic homelands you deny a right of a people to their own. You see the problem, no?
That you fully believe in Israel I none have denied, but the true why is something that remains to be seen.

Because there doesn’t exist a Palestine.

But there exists an albion, and its historical inheritors. However, you don't much care for them regardless of such.
You see the problem, no?

[Albionist Great Britain]

Depends. Were they a security threat? If not, then no.

And which past ethnic cleansing?

>ethnic cleansing is good if a population is a security threat


I don't know, the ethnic cleansing that happened from 1948-1949?

Of the people who migrated in reaction to the Jews moving home and actively sought to prevent the establishment of a Jewish state? The successful establishment of Israel is a favourable outcome to a bloody situation.

[Odreria]

Yeah they got rid of the slavery in Tibet that’s the point.

Then they filled it with wage slaves. What an improvement.

I didn’t know you were a communist. Based department?

[Arvenia]

Hong Kongers have never attempted to conquer Guangdong and exterminate the people of Shenzhen in a war of attempted genocide. Hong Kongers are not obsessed about "reclaiming" Guangdong or demanding a "right of return" to Shenzhen. They're not perpetrating suicide bombings against Mainlanders in the region. They're not naming streets and universities after terrorists and celebrating their "martyrdom" in the name of a jealous, vindictive god. They're not firing rockets into Shenzhen and Guangzhou or digging terror tunnels beneath the Sham Chun River in order to murder Mainland civilians of all ages. If they were, then you might have a point. Hong Kong would have absolutely no right to exist as a nation-state, China would be absolutely justified in placing the city-state under a land, sea, and naval blockade, and Mainlanders would be well within their rights to settle in Hong Kong en masse because at this point, HK people have squandered whatever goodwill they had left and deserve absolutely nothing but scraps.

None of this is true of Hong Kongers. But all of this is true of the Palestinians.

Of whom you know about zero. You haven't even been to the region and I doubt you've met many Arabs but when someone calls out your extremely stereotypical and unnuanced statements, you say we're brainwashed or somehow wrong.


I know many Palestinians. They deserve a homeland as much as the jews do, and I frankly don't see why Israel should be recognized but not the west Bank. Two states or no states, not this hypocritical status quo.

There is also a Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Russia. Also, Hong Kongers are basically Cantonese.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

In the same breath as you say that people are deserved of their historic homelands you deny a right of a people to their own. You see the problem, no?
That you fully believe in Israel I none have denied, but the true why is something that remains to be seen.

Because there doesn’t exist a Palestine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine

Except there does. I can't see how I could have visited a place that doesn't exist.

[Witiland]

In the same breath as you say that people are deserved of their historic homelands you deny a right of a people to their own. You see the problem, no?
That you fully believe in Israel I none have denied, but the true why is something that remains to be seen.

Because there doesn’t exist a Palestine.

In your humble opinion. Unless you personally gone though something like that or researched and show me that you can be non bias, this conversation is not worthwhile, as you come off as slightly Islamophobic (now I assume your not Islamophobic however what have you said concerns me deeply) and slightly anti Islam and anti Palestine. Your entitled to that....

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

There is also a Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Russia.

Which is populated by almost 100% Russians.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

>ethnic cleansing is good if a population is a security threat


I don't know, the ethnic cleansing that happened from 1948-1949?

Of the people who migrated in reaction to the Jews moving home and actively sought to prevent the establishment of a Jewish state? The successful establishment of Israel is a favourable outcome to a bloody situation.

I wonder if all that alleged migration from other Arab countries offset all the Arabs who weren't allowed to return to their homes in the area that is currently Israel and Palestine.

[Albionist Great Britain]

Because there doesn’t exist a Palestine.

I propose for a four-state solution, where Israel controls the land it already has, Palestine gets the West Bank, Egypt gets Gaza and Jerusalem becomes an internationally-administered city-state.

Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel, and there already exists a ‘Palestine’ called Jordan.

[Greater Cesnica]

>ethnic cleansing is good if a population is a security threat


I don't know, the ethnic cleansing that happened from 1948-1949?

Of the people who migrated in reaction to the Jews moving home and actively sought to prevent the establishment of a Jewish state? The successful establishment of Israel is a favourable outcome to a bloody situation.

You're... literally supporting ethnic cleansing. Wow.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I propose for a four-state solution, where Israel controls the land it already has, Palestine gets the West Bank, Egypt gets Gaza and Jerusalem becomes an internationally-administered city-state.

Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel, and there already exists a ‘Palestine’ called Jordan.

Jordan is the land of the hashemites. Dont make them stateless now too.

I dont understand why we should have to recognize Israel but Israel can't compromise or return the favor on Palestine.