While there really was a bit of that I was talking more about Middle Eastern states.
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by Cordel One » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:32 am
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:33 am
by Cordel One » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:37 am
by Vassenor » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:02 am
by Kiu Ghesik » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:04 am
by Norastan » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:07 am
Witiland wrote:Albionist Great Britain wrote:Good. The sooner BDS and likewise [other] anti-Jewish organisations are gone, the better.
See people forget that Jewish terrorism exists but the reason most people don't know or care is because they did not hit us with a plane into the twin towers. But that does not mean we should not condemn Jewish terrorism. Jewish nationalism (nationalism generally is terrible) is a problem and must be fixed.
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:13 am
by Odreria » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:15 am
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:The BDS movement argues for "suspending Israel's membership in international forums such as UN bodies and FIFA". Do any of its supporters believes that countless countries actively violating international law should also be suspended from the FIFA and UN bodies? As well as boycotted? Should national teams refuse to sport against any athletes representing these countries, or only Israel? If these demands are solely made of the Jewish state, why?
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:16 am
Odreria wrote:Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:The BDS movement argues for "suspending Israel's membership in international forums such as UN bodies and FIFA". Do any of its supporters believes that countless countries actively violating international law should also be suspended from the FIFA and UN bodies? As well as boycotted? Should national teams refuse to sport against any athletes representing these countries, or only Israel? If these demands are solely made of the Jewish state, why?
Wow, a group dedicated to criticizing Israel criticizes Israel a lot. Makes you think.
by Lostlands plain » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:22 am
by Nilokeras » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:28 am
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:The BDS movement argues for "suspending Israel's membership in international forums such as UN bodies and FIFA". Do any of its supporters believes that countless countries actively violating international law should also be suspended from the FIFA and UN bodies? As well as boycotted? Should national teams refuse to sport against any athletes representing these countries, or only Israel?
by Witiland » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:29 am
Norastan wrote:Witiland wrote:
See people forget that Jewish terrorism exists but the reason most people don't know or care is because they did not hit us with a plane into the twin towers. But that does not mean we should not condemn Jewish terrorism. Jewish nationalism (nationalism generally is terrible) is a problem and must be fixed.
No one talks about Jewish terrorism because Islamic terrorism is way more widespread because Islam was created as a more violent religion.
by Kubra » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:29 am
Buddy plenty of people win wars only to lose anywaysLoben III wrote:Witiland wrote:
Let me ask you this, who came in took their land that was palatine's for decades and laid claim to it? Israel! Now everybody is like "oh Christopher Columbus is bad because he claimed land that was not his and killed innocent people" yet these same people say "oh yeah Israel did nothing wrong and Jewish nationalism is ok". I hate Islamic nationalism as well all of it, but right now until Israel admits "hey maybe we did something wrong" I'm on Palestine's side...
War was fought, they lost.
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:31 am
Nilokeras wrote:Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:The BDS movement argues for "suspending Israel's membership in international forums such as UN bodies and FIFA". Do any of its supporters believes that countless countries actively violating international law should also be suspended from the FIFA and UN bodies? As well as boycotted? Should national teams refuse to sport against any athletes representing these countries, or only Israel?
...Yes? Shockingly, human rights campaigners care about human rights. Was this supposed to be some sort of masterful gotcha question?
by Vassenor » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:32 am
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:The BDS movement argues for "suspending Israel's membership in international forums such as UN bodies and FIFA". Do any of its supporters believes that countless countries actively violating international law should also be suspended from the FIFA and UN bodies? As well as boycotted? Should national teams refuse to sport against any athletes representing these countries, or only Israel? If these demands are solely made of the Jewish state, why?
by VlaRiSsiA » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:32 am
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:The BDS movement argues for "suspending Israel's membership in international forums such as UN bodies and FIFA". Do any of its supporters believes that countless countries actively violating international law should also be suspended from the FIFA and UN bodies? As well as boycotted? Should national teams refuse to sport against any athletes representing these countries, or only Israel? If these demands are solely made of the Jewish state, why?
tl;dr - after nuclear war, corrupt oligarchical hellhole emerges. ogre leads revolution, kills oligarchs after civil war, improves quality of life with progressive social policies and industrialization. couple foreign invasions, assassination attempts, personal losses, and rebellions later, ogre goes psychotic and kills anyone he’s sus of. then a fascist midget invades and kills third of the population, ogre manages to defeat him but goes completely bonkers.
now we got a hyper-totalitarian hyper-militaristic industrial hive-mind quasi-slave state that the ogre 70 years ago would be horrified at
by Nilokeras » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:33 am
Witiland wrote:wow, not like Chastains attacked jerselum to start hmm a crusade.
by Cordel One » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:34 am
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:34 am
VlaRiSsiA wrote:Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:The BDS movement argues for "suspending Israel's membership in international forums such as UN bodies and FIFA". Do any of its supporters believes that countless countries actively violating international law should also be suspended from the FIFA and UN bodies? As well as boycotted? Should national teams refuse to sport against any athletes representing these countries, or only Israel? If these demands are solely made of the Jewish state, why?
By that logic, the Free Hong Kong movement should protest all countries stripping autonomous regions in their influence of rights as much as they are protesting the PRC. BDS is focusing on Israel because it is made up of Palestinians facing Israeli war crimes, just like how the Hong Kong protests are facing the CCP's authoritarianism. You can't focus on all human rights violations at once, especially if you are at the receiving end of one country's human rights abuses.
by Nilokeras » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:34 am
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:Nilokeras wrote:
...Yes? Shockingly, human rights campaigners care about human rights. Was this supposed to be some sort of masterful gotcha question?
That is interesting. Although it's understandable that individual movements have focusses on specific countries, it wouldn't explain the current behaviour of the international community as a whole.
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:36 am
Vassenor wrote:Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:The BDS movement argues for "suspending Israel's membership in international forums such as UN bodies and FIFA". Do any of its supporters believes that countless countries actively violating international law should also be suspended from the FIFA and UN bodies? As well as boycotted? Should national teams refuse to sport against any athletes representing these countries, or only Israel? If these demands are solely made of the Jewish state, why?
You mean like happened to South Africa?
by VlaRiSsiA » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:37 am
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:VlaRiSsiA wrote:By that logic, the Free Hong Kong movement should protest all countries stripping autonomous regions in their influence of rights as much as they are protesting the PRC. BDS is focusing on Israel because it is made up of Palestinians facing Israeli war crimes, just like how the Hong Kong protests are facing the CCP's authoritarianism. You can't focus on all human rights violations at once, especially if you are at the receiving end of one country's human rights abuses.
As I noted above, we need to differentiate here between the behaviour of individual movements, who can understandably focus on one issue, and the international community as a whole.
tl;dr - after nuclear war, corrupt oligarchical hellhole emerges. ogre leads revolution, kills oligarchs after civil war, improves quality of life with progressive social policies and industrialization. couple foreign invasions, assassination attempts, personal losses, and rebellions later, ogre goes psychotic and kills anyone he’s sus of. then a fascist midget invades and kills third of the population, ogre manages to defeat him but goes completely bonkers.
now we got a hyper-totalitarian hyper-militaristic industrial hive-mind quasi-slave state that the ogre 70 years ago would be horrified at
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:37 am
Nilokeras wrote:Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:That is interesting. Although it's understandable that individual movements have focusses on specific countries, it wouldn't explain the current behaviour of the international community as a whole.
You may want to sit down for this. Did you know that sometimes... countries look the other way and ignore human rights issues in favour of their own political or economic interests. I know, it's a lot. Take your time to process it.
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:38 am
VlaRiSsiA wrote:Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:As I noted above, we need to differentiate here between the behaviour of individual movements, who can understandably focus on one issue, and the international community as a whole.
Umm, you do realize the Free Hong Kong movement is trying to get international support as well. Many movements advocating freedom often have to resort to international help due to persecution by their home government. Apartheid was ended with the support of the international community ya know.
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