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by Page » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:45 am
by Port Myreal » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:51 am
by The Archregimancy » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:15 am
by Kathol Rift » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 am
by Sanghyeok » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 am
The Archregimancy wrote:History is, by definition, the study of the human past since the development of writing systems.
Anything occurring before the development of writing is prehistory; and therefore, strictly speaking, not encompassed in the question in the thread title. This rules out, inter alia, the neolithic agricultural revolution, which predates the development of either cuneiform or Egyptian hieroglyphs by thousands of years.
Since the development of writing is what allows history to exist in the first place, then the development of writing is the most important event in world history.
I think the OP is trying to ask for opinions on the most important technological or sociohistorical development since the expansion of modern humans out of Africa, regardless of whether or not they predate the development of a historical record; but that's not quite as snappy as a thread title.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by Chan Island » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:21 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Chan Island » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:24 am
Major-Tom wrote:Whoever invented beer.
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Major-Tom » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:25 am
Chan Island wrote:Major-Tom wrote:Whoever invented beer.
That answer is actually a much more serious contender than you'd think. While there is debate in the academic field about it, there is a school of thought that posits that we first had agriculture for the purposes of growing barley for beer. Alcohol provided a safe, easy and secure way of drinking water for early humans- and humans are one of the most alcohol tolerant creatures on the planet.
by Torisakia » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:11 am
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by Agend » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:41 am
by Agend » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:43 am
Page wrote:The dictatorship of Fabius during the Second Punic War had quite an extreme influence on world history. He took up the unpopular position of denying Hannibal battle and instead waged a tedious war of attrition. Had the opinion of the majority that Romans should charge head first into battle prevailed, the Romans would have been slaughtered for a 4th time and they would not have recovered from it. Hannibal would have been able to take Rome.
This means no Roman Empire which probably means no Christianity, or at least that Christianity doesn't spread nearly as much. And without Christianity and without the Roman Empire destroying Jerusalem after the uprising and causing a Jewish diaspora, there would be little influence of Abrahamic religion in Arabia which means no Islam either.
The world would be utterly unrecognizable. Only East Asian nations might end up with the same religion, language, and culture as today but everything else would be entirely different.
by Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:50 am
Torisakia wrote:Hasn't happened yet. The most important event in world history will be when the Earth heats up due to the runaway greenhouse effect and causes all life on it to be extinct, which will happen in about 4 billion years.
So, 4,000,002,020 CE. I think that's an election year too.
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by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:51 am
Scherzinger wrote:the fall of socialism in Europe/The Berlin Wall
by Sanghyeok » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:55 am
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:03 pm
by Sanghyeok » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:04 pm
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:07 pm
Sanghyeok wrote:Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Armenia, Iceland, Portugal and Serbia are all run by democratic socialist parties. Just because it isnt communism doesn't mean it isnt socialism.
They may be run by democratic socialist parties, but I would say (at least Iceland and Portugal) are social democracy. I can't speak on Armenia and Serbia given my limited knowledge.
by Sanghyeok » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:08 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Sanghyeok wrote:
They may be run by democratic socialist parties, but I would say (at least Iceland and Portugal) are social democracy. I can't speak on Armenia and Serbia given my limited knowledge.
Unpopular opinion (or fact, it kinda rides the line between) but the whole idea of social democracy is to transition to a socialist state. It's the opposite of communism which just overthrows capitalism in one fell swoop.
It's like curing heroin addiction. You can quit cold turkey and possibly die, or you can take certain meds that'll help you get off it in a slightly easier manner. Social democracy is like that. And I probably just earned myself a hanging in the town square for saying that.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by La Paz de Los Ricos » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:09 pm
by Exalted Inquellian State » Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:18 pm
Torisakia wrote:Hasn't happened yet. The most important event in world history will be when the Earth heats up due to the runaway greenhouse effect and causes all life on it to be extinct, which will happen in about 4 billion years.
So, 4,000,002,020 CE. I think that's an election year too.
by Exalted Inquellian State » Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:29 pm
Nousa wrote:Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:The Germans taking Moscow would've led to more problems than answers, and the USSR wouldn't just collapse with Moscow.
The Soviets would've fought hard to continue their struggle, and with the overwhelming manpower advantage, it'd only be a matter of when the Soviets would take back Moscow.
Also, I'm pretty sure Stalin had a plan to blow up Moscow to make it unusable to the Germans much like it was to Napoleon.
The collapse of Moscow would've resulted in the collapse of Leningrad, ensuring the fall of the USSR in 1942. From there, the Anglo-Americans would sign a stalemate peace and then you get a Cold War.
by Postauthoritarian America » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:40 pm
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