Should Monarchs Reign or Govern?

[Deus Ignis]

This thread is about how monarchs should act while in power. Now lets begin:
I believe that monarchs should reign, not govern, and point the nation into one general direction, while the lords and elected/appointed commoners work out the smaller details.

So lets debate NS!

[Atheris]

Monarchs shouldn't be given power. In the event they do rule over a country, though, it's always best to limit their power via constitutionalism and parliamentarianism.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

As long as it's not absolute monarchy, allows freedoms and basic rights, alongside protecting the nation from extremism, yes.

[Asardia]

The will of the people always trumps a monarch. We should have elected officials who then appoint their own subordinates to offices, similar to the US political system There's no reason for a family to have permanent power. Anytime you give any person unlimited power for an unlimited time, you see dictatorships and corruption. I believe that elections and term limits at least force some honesty.

[Ethel mermania]

Reign not rule.

[Cetacea]

The will of the people always trumps a monarch. We should have elected officials who then appoint their own subordinates to offices, similar to the US political system There's no reason for a family to have permanent power. Anytime you give any person unlimited power for an unlimited time, you see dictatorships and corruption. I believe that elections and term limits at least force some honesty.

Well the fact that the USA has more Corruption than the UK kinda disproves your statement doesnt it?

The whole debacle of the US elections and threats of the Court determining the outcome is the very reason why an Independent Monarch overseeing Parliament is a better system for head of state than a US style Presidency.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

The will of the people always trumps a monarch. We should have elected officials who then appoint their own subordinates to offices, similar to the US political system There's no reason for a family to have permanent power. Anytime you give any person unlimited power for an unlimited time, you see dictatorships and corruption. I believe that elections and term limits at least force some honesty.

Well the fact that the USA has more Corruption than the UK kinda disproves your statement doesnt it?

The whole debacle of the US elections amd threats of the Court determining the outcome is the very reason why a Independent Monarch overseeing Parliament is a better system for head of state than a US style Presidency.

Well, we know the outcome of the election for certain, so for now America doesn't need a monarch. If we're still in recession by Biden's 1 year anniversary, I'm becoming an American Monarchist.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

The will of the people always trumps a monarch. We should have elected officials who then appoint their own subordinates to offices, similar to the US political system There's no reason for a family to have permanent power. Anytime you give any person unlimited power for an unlimited time, you see dictatorships and corruption. I believe that elections and term limits at least force some honesty.

So the opinion of the average people (of average intelligence) counts more than a family that might all be above average due to education and *cough cough* maybe genetics *cough cough*

[The Blaatschapen]

Monarchs should pop out of their cocoon and fly.

[The Blaatschapen]

Well the fact that the USA has more Corruption than the UK kinda disproves your statement doesnt it?

The whole debacle of the US elections amd threats of the Court determining the outcome is the very reason why a Independent Monarch overseeing Parliament is a better system for head of state than a US style Presidency.

Well, we know the outcome of the election for certain, so for now America doesn't need a monarch. If we're still in recession by Biden's 1 year anniversary, I'm becoming an American Monarchist.

Which dynasty will you root for? Bush? Roosevelt? Adams? Harry&Meghan?

[New haven america]

The will of the people always trumps a monarch. We should have elected officials who then appoint their own subordinates to offices, similar to the US political system There's no reason for a family to have permanent power. Anytime you give any person unlimited power for an unlimited time, you see dictatorships and corruption. I believe that elections and term limits at least force some honesty.

So the opinion of the average people (of average intelligence) counts more than a family that might all be above average due to education and *cough cough* maybe genetics *cough cough*

Most monarchs and nobility in Europe were so inbred that they couldn't be bumped into too hard or go outside of too long or else they'd get massive bruises and sunburns.

And by too hard I mean a light tap.

[Old Tanokiana]

So the opinion of the average people (of average intelligence) counts more than a family that might all be above average due to education and *cough cough* maybe genetics *cough cough*

Bro the Habsburgs were neither of both lmao

A Monarch is like a Tankette, yes we can have it, yes it can still serve its intended function, the problem is: There's already an X for Y. The president is as much of a recognisable figure as say the Queen, The ambassador is as smooth speaking (I guess) as the King's English, it doesn't stop a monarch from existing, let alone govern. It's just that the modern world sees a Monarch as an ancient rock, and therefore should be disposed of. Elective Monarchies anyone?

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

So the opinion of the average people (of average intelligence) counts more than a family that might all be above average due to education and *cough cough* maybe genetics *cough cough*

Most monarchs and nobility in Europe were so inbred that they couldn't be bumped into too hard or go outside of too long or else they'd get massive bruises and sunburns.

nd by too hard I mean a light tap.

I know of haemophilia in the Victorian age was a probably but then that isn’t a problem now (as evidenced by the combat service of the then Prince, Harry amongst other examples). The answer to that is simple, allow your nobles to marry outside of Europe. That will broaden the gene pool.

[New haven america]

Most monarchs and nobility in Europe were so inbred that they couldn't be bumped into too hard or go outside of too long or else they'd get massive bruises and sunburns.

nd by too hard I mean a light tap.

1. I know of haemophilia in the Victorian age was a probably but then that isn’t a problem now (as evidenced by the combat service of the then Prince, Harry amongst other examples). 2. The answer to that is simple, allow your nobles to marry outside of Europe. That will broaden the gene pool.

1. That's because they're not inbreeding anymore and marrying "Commoners" who ironically are more genetically stable than the so called rulers chosen by God.
2. Yeah, because anytime a British noble married someone from outside of the country, that was received increadibly well by the public and the family.

Also, it wasn't just hemophilia, it was things like 2 ft long chins and eyes that could pop out randomly.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

So the opinion of the average people (of average intelligence) counts more than a family that might all be above average due to education and *cough cough* maybe genetics *cough cough*

Bro the Habsburgs were neither of both lmao

A Monarch is like a Tankette, yes we can have it, yes it can still serve its intended function, the problem is: There's already an X for Y. The president is as much of a recognisable figure as say the Queen, The ambassador is as smooth speaking (I guess) as the King's English, it doesn't stop a monarch from existing, let alone govern. It's just that the modern world sees a Monarch as an ancient rock, and therefore should be disposed of. Elective Monarchies anyone?

I actually agree with elective monarchies. What gives one of the monarch’s children a better right to govern just because they were born earlier?

[The Blaatschapen]

Bro the Habsburgs were neither of both lmao

A Monarch is like a Tankette, yes we can have it, yes it can still serve its intended function, the problem is: There's already an X for Y. The president is as much of a recognisable figure as say the Queen, The ambassador is as smooth speaking (I guess) as the King's English, it doesn't stop a monarch from existing, let alone govern. It's just that the modern world sees a Monarch as an ancient rock, and therefore should be disposed of. Elective Monarchies anyone?

I actually agree with elective monarchies. What gives one of the monarch’s children a better right to govern just because they were born earlier?

What gives a monarch the right to govern in the first place

[Old Tyrannia]

I would like my queen to be able to exercise executive power, rather than be relegated to the role of a figurehead. I do think the monarch's power should be restricted by the law and by the existence of the elected House of Commons, however. A situation like that of the German Empire or modern Kuwait, with an executive but not autocratic monarch, would suit me.

[Greed and Death]

Both it by god ordained order.

[Sannyamathland]

Monarchs should be dragged onto the streets,along with the Royal Family...and should be publicly hanged to death.
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION !!!!

[Pasong Tirad]

They should be ousted.

[New Visayan Islands]

Monarchs should be dragged onto the streets,along with the Royal Family...and should be publicly hanged to death.
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION !!!!

*** Warned for trolling. ***

[The Holy Therns]

Monarchs should resign. Then make lovely careers as motivational speakers on the topic of how messed up you get being treated as inherently a leader by virtue of who your dad is.

[Suriyanakhon]

I'm of the belief that monarchs ought to rule since monarchy is a reflection of the divine order and that Buddhism can't be whole without a king who embodies the Dhamma.

[Picairn]

While being a symbol of unity is good and all, monarchs are practically useless in today's era. Frankly, all monarchs in the world (constitutional or absolute) should be replaced with elected leaders.

[Celritannia]

I support the concept of an Elected Constitutional Monarchy that should reign (with a review each decade) and have reserve powers used through an independent Constitutional Commission.