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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:25 pm

If Trump does a coup, my support for him ends and my support for Queen Elizabeth II begins, in secret.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:25 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I am but some of the talk coming from Republicans is downright scary.


Oh, I know it is. I don’t like it either, but I think this is just that some of them are sore losers. In the coming weeks, I think they’ll all realize reality is what it is and they’ll move on to the business of the state.

I certainly hope so. The longer they keep this up the more in damages their standing. This talk will be used against them in future elections.

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Postby No State Here » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:25 pm

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No State Here wrote:A coup would be Trump getting thrown out of office, but instead of letting Biden in, the generals take control of the White House and Congress and enforce military rule

Our officers have better leadership than elected officials, I wouldn’t be opposed to this

Of course you wouldn’t, "Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana"
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No State Here wrote:A coup would be Trump getting thrown out of office, but instead of letting Biden in, the generals take control of the White House and Congress and enforce military rule

Our officers have better leadership than elected officials, I wouldn’t be opposed to this

What if it's a junta and they start fighting?
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Postby Jedi Council » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:25 pm

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Jedi Council wrote:I think that's a sentiment shared by alot of people.

I have found it ironic that the Left hated Hillary so much, when she was probably more progressive than Biden, and has a much more clear eyed view about what the GOP has become.

Not saying you're one of those people, just thinking aloud


Hindsight is a bitch, in other words.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:26 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Oh, I know it is. I don’t like it either, but I think this is just that some of them are sore losers. In the coming weeks, I think they’ll all realize reality is what it is and they’ll move on to the business of the state.

I certainly hope so. The longer they keep this up the more in damages their standing. This talk will be used against them in future elections.


No doubt. And well deserved too.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:26 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:No I’m saying it’s going to happen before then. There was talk back in July and August about using a military coup to oust Trump if he doesn’t accept the results. He clearly hasn’t.

I’d bet they are waiting until December 14th, when the EC votes. If Trump doesn’t accept the results by then it’s over for him and his government


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Yes. According to what was talked about in July the military would only hold acting power until Biden could be sworn in
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Postby Jedi Council » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:26 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:If Trump does a coup, my support for him ends and my support for Queen Elizabeth II begins, in secret.

Wonderful that a coup is the line we draw in the sand.
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:26 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:If Trump does a coup, my support for him ends and my support for Queen Elizabeth II begins, in secret.


Well at least you're half reasonable. I don't think the Queen wants her fingerprints on that particular trainwreck though.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:27 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
No State Here wrote:A coup would be Trump getting thrown out of office, but instead of letting Biden in, the generals take control of the White House and Congress and enforce military rule

Our officers have better leadership than elected officials, I wouldn’t be opposed to this

Well as long as they don’t let any damn Lieutenants control anything
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Will Biden assume power as scheduled in January or...?

Yes. According to what was talked about in July the military would only hold acting power until Biden could be sworn in


Iffy to say they least but I hope that’s what happens come January. If it came to that. I’d hate to see you guys go military junta gov.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:27 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:If Trump does a coup, my support for him ends and my support for Queen Elizabeth II begins, in secret.

Wonderful that a coup is the line we draw in the sand.

That's not the only instance where my support would end for him. Thanks, the words you put in my mouth sure do taste delicious.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:27 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I certainly hope so. The longer they keep this up the more in damages their standing. This talk will be used against them in future elections.


No doubt. And well deserved too.

Its certainly going to be used in Georgia. Ossoff is already using it against Perdue.

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Postby Kanadorika » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:27 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
No State Here wrote:A coup would be Trump getting thrown out of office, but instead of letting Biden in, the generals take control of the White House and Congress and enforce military rule

Our officers have better leadership than elected officials, I wouldn’t be opposed to this

It wouldn't be too bad if Mattis somehow got into power and ordered that all children in the country be given free books.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:28 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Wonderful that a coup is the line we draw in the sand.

That's not the only instance where my support would end for him. Thanks, the words you put in my mouth sure do taste delicious.


He's going off your words, really. He actively supports a coup, so, like, I dunno why you're holding out hope that he's just "a little pissed but will walk away" lmao.

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Postby Albrenia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:29 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Wonderful that a coup is the line we draw in the sand.

That's not the only instance where my support would end for him. Thanks, the words you put in my mouth sure do taste delicious.


If you're still supporting him now, you've rather gone beyond what's reasonable anyway.

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Postby Kowani » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:29 pm

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:29 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:No. If the US went into a civil war Canada would collapse due to the massive wave of refugees and the economic effects of a US civil war.

If one happens Mexico and Canada will be going down with us

Given that it would also trigger a total meltdown of the dollar and the world economy, it probably wouldn't just be them either. But I think the Canadians would be able to hang on for longer than you or others here are giving them credit for.

If we use the same amount of refugees that came from Syria fleeing the USA in such an event we are looking at some 50 million refugees flooding into Canada. Canada only has a population of 33 million.

They will be overwhelmed by the mass of refugees alone
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:29 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:If Trump does a coup, my support for him ends and my support for Queen Elizabeth II begins, in secret.


Well at least you're half reasonable. I don't think the Queen wants her fingerprints on that particular trainwreck though.

The coup will prove we have instability, and that a monarchy is necessary. Of course, I don't think we would need semi-constitutional monarchy, just a constitutional one. The presidency would be replaced by a Prime Minister and the role of VP would be abolished. The constitution would give the queen the power to put forward laws, but they have to be signed by the PM to be valid, and command armies, but any action has to be signed by the minister of war.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:30 pm


That makes them cowards for not saying it publicly. If upsets their base too bad. its the right thing to do.

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:30 pm

Kanadorika wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Our officers have better leadership than elected officials, I wouldn’t be opposed to this

It wouldn't be too bad if Mattis somehow got into power and ordered that all children in the country be given free books.

Almost every high ranking general in the military is a respectable person, you can’t say the same for elected officials
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:30 pm


There's been a secret group of them this whole time who think Trump is a dangerous idiot but don't say anything publicly. It does the American people approximately zero good, since them not saying anything publicly is functionally the same as going along with what Trump wants.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:31 pm

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That makes them cowards for not saying it publicly. If upsets their base too bad. its the right thing to do.


It’s politics, in the end. Shitty ass but politics.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:31 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That makes them cowards for not saying it publicly. If upsets their base too bad. its the right thing to do.


It’s politics, in the end. Shitty ass but politics.

Its not politics its cowardice.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It’s politics, in the end. Shitty ass but politics.

Its not politics its cowardice.


Politics are full of cowardice too. It’s a human endeavor.
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