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Postby Kanadorika » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
So it’s a given come Inauguration Day we’ll see Trump thrown out the WH by military personnel?

Yes. His term ends. Republicans arent going to somehow throw the election the house unless they want to never win another election again and face civil unrest that would make the Civil Rights protests in the 1960s look like nothing.


A lot of Trumpists are under the impression that they won't actually ever win an election again. That's the worrying part, even if their pessimism on the future of the GOP is incorrect.
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Postby No State Here » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:16 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Esalia wrote:
I would love to see video of that.


Apparently the Proud Boys are staging a coup. Leaked posts. If anyone has sauce, please this is your moment.

I saw it on FB but can’t attest to veracity.

Lmao the Proud Boys can’t even organize a rally right, let alone a coup

All of the Antifa vs. Proud Boys fights in Portland are entertaining to watch, it’s hilarious to see two groups of thin, white men who think they’re far stronger than they really are go at it
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:17 pm

No State Here wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Apparently the Proud Boys are staging a coup. Leaked posts. If anyone has sauce, please this is your moment.

I saw it on FB but can’t attest to veracity.

Lmao the Proud Boys can’t even organize a rally right, let alone a coup

All of the Antifa vs. Proud Boys fights in Portland are entertaining to watch, it’s hilarious to see two groups of thin, white men who think they’re far stronger than they really are


Here’s a HuffPo article on it, but again, I can’t attest veracity: https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost ... 928683/amp
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Postby Jedi Council » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:17 pm

Major-Tom wrote:I should've voted Hillary.

I think that's a sentiment shared by alot of people.

I have found it ironic that the Left hated Hillary so much, when she was probably more progressive than Biden, and has a much more clear eyed view about what the GOP has become.

Not saying you're one of those people, just thinking aloud
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Postby Diarcesia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Who cares. At that point everyone will be powerless against them.

Millions of people will not accept the outcome. The 1960s will look calm.

They're begging for Tiananmen Square National Mall.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:18 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Millions of people will not accept the outcome. The 1960s will look calm.

They're begging for Tiananmen Square National Mall.

If they somehow throw it to the house and reelect Trump it could happen but I think the military would refuse that order.
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:19 pm

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Gravlen wrote:No. NATO would not join a civil war in the US.


You're discounting the role that our 5,500 mile border with Canada would play in NATO's decision to join an American civil war

No, that is included in the assessment.
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Postby No State Here » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:19 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
No State Here wrote:Lmao the Proud Boys can’t even organize a rally right, let alone a coup

All of the Antifa vs. Proud Boys fights in Portland are entertaining to watch, it’s hilarious to see two groups of thin, white men who think they’re far stronger than they really are


Here’s a HuffPo article on it, but again, I can’t attest veracity: https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost ... 928683/amp

Huffington post is a bad source, but I’m not denying this is real, I can believe the Proud Boys planning something like that, it’ll be hilarious when they get crushed by 20 machine gun wielding GIs
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:20 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:They're begging for Tiananmen Square National Mall.

If they somehow throw it to the house and reelect Trump it could happen.


You do have a strong system of checks and balances precisely to ensure this doesn’t happen. It can probably hold. I understand your fear but the system is holding.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:20 pm

No State Here wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Here’s a HuffPo article on it, but again, I can’t attest veracity: https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost ... 928683/amp

Huffington post is a bad source, but I’m not denying this is real, I can believe the Proud Boys planning something like that, it’ll be hilarious when they get crushed by 20 machine gun wielding GIs


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Postby Diarcesia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:20 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
San Lumen wrote:If they somehow throw it to the house and reelect Trump it could happen.


You do have a strong system of checks and balances precisely to ensure this doesn’t happen. It can probably hold. I understand your fear but the system is holding.

On a serious note, this.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:20 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:No im saying the military is going to overthrow Trump because he’s planning on staying in office long after he should. The peaceful transition of power is over

That's not really a coup though, is it? That's just Trump getting forced out after his term expires.

No I’m saying it’s going to happen before then. There was talk back in July and August about using a military coup to oust Trump if he doesn’t accept the results. He clearly hasn’t.

I’d bet they are waiting until December 14th, when the EC votes. If Trump doesn’t accept the results by then it’s over for him and his government
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:21 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
San Lumen wrote:If they somehow throw it to the house and reelect Trump it could happen.


You do have a strong system of checks and balances precisely to ensure this doesn’t happen. It can probably hold. I understand your fear but the system is holding.


True. Not a single one of Trump's lawsuits has been upheld. Its been dismissed.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You do have a strong system of checks and balances precisely to ensure this doesn’t happen. It can probably hold. I understand your fear but the system is holding.


True. Not a single one of Trump's lawsuits has been upheld. Its been dismissed.


So far, yes. Try to stay calm. I think your system will hold.
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Postby No State Here » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:22 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No im saying the military is going to overthrow Trump because he’s planning on staying in office long after he should. The peaceful transition of power is over

That's not really a coup though, is it? That's just Trump getting forced out after his term expires.

A coup would be Trump getting thrown out of office, but instead of letting Biden in, the generals take control of the White House and Congress and enforce military rule
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:22 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
True. Not a single one of Trump's lawsuits has been upheld. Its been dismissed.


So far, yes. Try to stay calm. I think your system will hold.

I am but some of the talk coming from Republicans is downright scary.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:23 pm

Senkaku wrote:
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You're discounting the role that our 5,500 mile border with Canada would play in NATO's decision to join an American civil war

The Canadians would do their best to stay out of it, whether they think that means accepting refugees or sealing the border is the better approach. I doubt domestic American groups would attack the Canadian military either, at least unless and until a conflict in the US was mostly resolved and there were people they wanted to get their hands on living in Canada.

No. If the US went into a civil war Canada would collapse due to the massive wave of refugees and the economic effects of a US civil war.

If one happens Mexico and Canada will be going down with us
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:23 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Cordel One wrote:That's not really a coup though, is it? That's just Trump getting forced out after his term expires.

No I’m saying it’s going to happen before then. There was talk back in July and August about using a military coup to oust Trump if he doesn’t accept the results. He clearly hasn’t.

I’d bet they are waiting until December 14th, when the EC votes. If Trump doesn’t accept the results by then it’s over for him and his government


Will Biden assume power as scheduled in January or...?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:23 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No I’m saying it’s going to happen before then. There was talk back in July and August about using a military coup to oust Trump if he doesn’t accept the results. He clearly hasn’t.

I’d bet they are waiting until December 14th, when the EC votes. If Trump doesn’t accept the results by then it’s over for him and his government


Will Biden assume power as scheduled in January or...?

Yes. Trumps term ends at noon on January 20th.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:23 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Prepare for a military coup yall. Trump is attempting to remain in office past January 20th. He’s announced that all agencies should prepare for his February budget

The one thing worse than a second Trump term is an American Pinochet

It would be more of an American Cincinnatus
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:24 pm

No State Here wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Here’s a HuffPo article on it, but again, I can’t attest veracity: https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost ... 928683/amp

Huffington post is a bad source, but I’m not denying this is real, I can believe the Proud Boys planning something like that, it’ll be hilarious when they get crushed by 20 machine gun wielding GIs


Proud Boys aren't going to overthrow jack shit. If it's up to them to overthrow the system, then they are shit out of luck.

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:24 pm

No State Here wrote:
Cordel One wrote:That's not really a coup though, is it? That's just Trump getting forced out after his term expires.

A coup would be Trump getting thrown out of office, but instead of letting Biden in, the generals take control of the White House and Congress and enforce military rule

Our officers have better leadership than elected officials, I wouldn’t be opposed to this
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:24 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:The Canadians would do their best to stay out of it, whether they think that means accepting refugees or sealing the border is the better approach. I doubt domestic American groups would attack the Canadian military either, at least unless and until a conflict in the US was mostly resolved and there were people they wanted to get their hands on living in Canada.

No. If the US went into a civil war Canada would collapse due to the massive wave of refugees and the economic effects of a US civil war.

If one happens Mexico and Canada will be going down with us

Given that it would also trigger a total meltdown of the dollar and the world economy, it probably wouldn't just be them either. But I think the Canadians would be able to hang on for longer than you or others here are giving them credit for.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:24 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
So far, yes. Try to stay calm. I think your system will hold.

I am but some of the talk coming from Republicans is downright scary.


Oh, I know it is. I don’t like it either, but I think this is just that some of them are sore losers. In the coming weeks, I think they’ll all realize reality is what it is and they’ll move on to the business of the state.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:24 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:I should've voted Hillary.

I think that's a sentiment shared by alot of people.

I have found it ironic that the Left hated Hillary so much, when she was probably more progressive than Biden, and has a much more clear eyed view about what the GOP has become.

Not saying you're one of those people, just thinking aloud


Hindsight is a bitch, in other words.

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