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Kanadorika
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Postby Kanadorika » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:09 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No im saying the military is going to overthrow Trump because he’s planning on staying in office long after he should. The peaceful transition of power is over


So it’s a given come Inauguration Day we’ll see Trump thrown out the WH by military personnel?

Not even that. Your friendly neighborhood US Park Ranger will kick Trump out of the White House. The ultimate humiliation is when Trump gets manhandled by Ranger Smith.
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Postby Esalia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:10 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Tanks rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue would be a sight to see


I’d make pop corn to watch MP throwing Trump, and anyone who resists like him, out the WH like rubbish.


I would love to see video of that.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:10 pm

Kanadorika wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
So it’s a given come Inauguration Day we’ll see Trump thrown out the WH by military personnel?

Not even that. Your friendly neighborhood US Park Ranger will kick Trump out of the White House. The ultimate humiliation is when Trump gets manhandled by Ranger Smith.


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Postby Senkaku » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:11 pm

RiderSyl wrote:
Gravlen wrote:No. NATO would not join a civil war in the US.


You're discounting the role that our 5,500 mile border with Canada would play in NATO's decision to join an American civil war

The Canadians would do their best to stay out of it, whether they think that means accepting refugees or sealing the border is the better approach. I doubt domestic American groups would attack the Canadian military either, at least unless and until a conflict in the US was mostly resolved and there were people they wanted to get their hands on living in Canada.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:11 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No im saying the military is going to overthrow Trump because he’s planning on staying in office long after he should. The peaceful transition of power is over


So it’s a given come Inauguration Day we’ll see Trump thrown out the WH by military personnel?

Yes. His term ends. Republicans arent going to somehow throw the election the house unless they want to never win another election again and face civil unrest that would make the Civil Rights protests in the 1960s look like nothing.

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Postby Jedi Council » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:11 pm

Esalia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I don’t think this iteration ever cared. Really. But it’s interesting to see a rabid Graham confirm what we already knew.


I don't think they've really cared either. Just before, they'd try to hide it.

Now? There's literally no evidence of fraud at all and a bunch of Republicans are jumping on the "Biden stole the election" train, including some really high-ranking ones. I don't think you can get much more anti-democratic than rejecting fair election results on the basis of unsubstantiated bullshit.


They have an off ramp; they can conceivably claim after the results were certified that they were just waiting to the votes to be confirmed.

It's a shitty excuse but it's better than nothing.

If you see Mitch and his gang still saying what they are saying now after certification, then you have a major, major problem
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:11 pm

Are we all fucked beacuse Trump and his cultists on /pol/ cant accept they lost or is Jan 20th just going to go by peacefully?
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Postby The Giant Space Wyrm » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:12 pm

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The Giant Space Wyrm wrote:Peaceful Transition of Power is so... 4 years ago.

It's time we enacted WWE rules.


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Postby No State Here » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:12 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Prepare for a military coup yall. Trump is attempting to remain in office past January 20th. He’s announced that all agencies should prepare for his February budget

The one thing worse than a second Trump term is an American Pinochet
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:12 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
So it’s a given come Inauguration Day we’ll see Trump thrown out the WH by military personnel?

Yes. His term ends. Republicans arent going to somehow throw the election the house unless they want to never win another election again and face civil unrest that would make the Civil Rights protests in the 1960s look like nothing.

I'm not convinced. Their tolerance for risk seems quite high, if the past decade is any indication, and they don't seem to have many qualms about using force against their enemies.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:12 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
Esalia wrote:
I don't think they've really cared either. Just before, they'd try to hide it.

Now? There's literally no evidence of fraud at all and a bunch of Republicans are jumping on the "Biden stole the election" train, including some really high-ranking ones. I don't think you can get much more anti-democratic than rejecting fair election results on the basis of unsubstantiated bullshit.


They have an off ramp; they can conceivably claim after the results were certified that they were just waiting to the votes to be confirmed.

It's a shitty excuse but it's better than nothing.

If you see Mitch and his gang still saying what they are saying now after certification, then you have a major, major problem


Trump is trying to prevent the certification. I can't seem them doing that but nothing is certain at this point.

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:13 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Are we all fucked beacuse Trump and his cultists on /pol/ cant accept they lost or is Jan 20th just going to go by peacefully?

I guess we'll find out day of. Joint chiefs have to give the nuclear codes to someone.
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Postby No State Here » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:13 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Are we all fucked beacuse Trump and his cultists on /pol/ cant accept they lost or is Jan 20th just going to go by peacefully?

He’ll get over it, private reports say he’s planning a reluctant concession once all the lawsuits inevitably fail
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:13 pm

Senkaku wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yes. His term ends. Republicans arent going to somehow throw the election the house unless they want to never win another election again and face civil unrest that would make the Civil Rights protests in the 1960s look like nothing.

I'm not convinced. Their tolerance for risk seems quite high, if the past decade is any indication, and they don't seem to have many qualms about using force against their enemies.


If they do that this country will tear itself apart.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:13 pm

Esalia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I’d make pop corn to watch MP throwing Trump, and anyone who resists like him, out the WH like rubbish.


I would love to see video of that.


Apparently the Proud Boys are staging a coup. Leaked posts. If anyone has sauce, please this is your moment.

I saw it on FB but can’t attest to veracity.
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:13 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Are we all fucked beacuse Trump and his cultists on /pol/ cant accept they lost or is Jan 20th just going to go by peacefully?


Let's hope they prove themselves all talk and no action. I'm sure most of them are just keyboard warriors - it's the few nutjobs that I imagine the Secret Service will have to deal with.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:14 pm

No State Here wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Are we all fucked beacuse Trump and his cultists on /pol/ cant accept they lost or is Jan 20th just going to go by peacefully?

He’ll get over it, private reports say he’s planning a reluctant concession once all the lawsuits inevitably fail

I hope that's true.

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Postby Diarcesia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I'm not convinced. Their tolerance for risk seems quite high, if the past decade is any indication, and they don't seem to have many qualms about using force against their enemies.


If they do that this country will tear itself apart.

Who cares. At that point everyone will be powerless against them.

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Esalia
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Postby Esalia » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:14 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
Esalia wrote:
I don't think they've really cared either. Just before, they'd try to hide it.

Now? There's literally no evidence of fraud at all and a bunch of Republicans are jumping on the "Biden stole the election" train, including some really high-ranking ones. I don't think you can get much more anti-democratic than rejecting fair election results on the basis of unsubstantiated bullshit.


They have an off ramp; they can conceivably claim after the results were certified that they were just waiting to the votes to be confirmed.

It's a shitty excuse but it's better than nothing.

If you see Mitch and his gang still saying what they are saying now after certification, then you have a major, major problem


Honestly, shit like this is kinda making me think that stuff like AOC's list is a pretty good idea. You should not be able to walk away from attempting to reject democracy scot-free.
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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I'm not convinced. Their tolerance for risk seems quite high, if the past decade is any indication, and they don't seem to have many qualms about using force against their enemies.


If they do that this country will tear itself apart.

Yes. That is not, in itself, an argument for it not being likely for them to try it anyways.
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Postby Kathol Rift » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:14 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Giant Space Wyrm wrote:Peaceful Transition of Power is so... 4 years ago.

It's time we enacted WWE rules.


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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:14 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
If they do that this country will tear itself apart.

Who cares. At that point everyone will be powerless against them.

Millions of people will not accept the outcome. The 1960s will look calm.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:15 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Esalia wrote:
I would love to see video of that.


Apparently the Proud Boys are staging a coup. Leaked posts. If anyone has sauce, please this is your moment.

I saw it on FB but can’t attest to veracity.

That's not a good source.

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Postby Cordel One » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:15 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Esalia wrote:
I would love to see video of that.


Apparently the Proud Boys are staging a coup. Leaked posts. If anyone has sauce, please this is your moment.

I saw it on FB but can’t attest to veracity.

I doubt it, bit if so...

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:15 pm

I should've voted Hillary.

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