2020 US General Election Thread XIII: Nocturne

[Esalia]

They're almost self-aware. Almost.

Clear intent.

“If Republicans don't challenge and change the US election system, there will never be another Republican president elected again.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

Welcome to today's episode of "The Republicans have stopped caring about democracy or even looking like they care about democracy"! Today, we have a Republican openly admitting that without changing the system so it's rigged in their favour, the Republicans will never win again!

Somebody tell Jeff the name of his show is way too long. The viewers will fall asleep by the end of it.

[Major-Tom]

That's not what I'm asking, I'm asking if there is a process in which the Presidential results can be nullified and ensure a second Trump term. I'm not asking if they'll do it, rather if there is any recourse to do so.

No unless congress refused to certify the result of certain states and threw it too the house because no one had a majority. Trump would win that election and it would leave to massive civil unrest and protests the likes of which this country has never seen.

I'm quite confident it won't happen, as I'm sure most of us are. If it did, I'd riot lmao.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Ok so lets say that Trump and the GOP are so god damm stupid that they some how coup on Jan 20th.

Wouldn't NATO just come in and support the Biden loyalists till they win?

No. NATO would not join a civil war in the US.

They have an obligation to defend there fellow treaty signers. The actual Democratic winner of the election would be the one NATO supports right?

[San Lumen]

No unless congress refused to certify the result of certain states and threw it too the house because no one had a majority. Trump would win that election and it would leave to massive civil unrest and protests the likes of which this country has never seen.

I'm quite confident it won't happen, as I'm sure most of us are. If it did, I'd riot lmao.

It won’t. There are merely trying to appease their rapid base.

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No. NATO would not join a civil war in the US.

They have an obligation to defend there fellow treaty signers. The actual Democratic winner of the election would be the one NATO supports right?

You're speculating about who would follow the rules in a scenario when all the rules have gone out the window.

[Senkaku]

Clear intent.

“If Republicans don't challenge and change the US election system, there will never be another Republican president elected again.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

Welcome to today's episode of "The Republicans have stopped caring about democracy or even looking like they care about democracy"! Today, we have a Republican openly admitting that without changing the system so it's rigged in their favour, the Republicans will never win again!

Somebody tell Jeff the name of his show is way too long. The viewers will fall asleep by the end of it.

Rigged even further in their favor, you mean.

[Senkaku]

No. NATO would not join a civil war in the US.

They have an obligation to defend there fellow treaty signers. The actual Democratic winner of the election would be the one NATO supports right?

If I were a NATO member, I would be very hesitant about picking sides in an American civil war. Best situation for the Europeans is to hunker down and wait and see how it all shakes out.

[Thermodolia]

Prepare for a military coup yall. Trump is attempting to remain in office past January 20th. He’s announced that all agencies should prepare for his February budget

[Jedi Council]

They have an obligation to defend there fellow treaty signers. The actual Democratic winner of the election would be the one NATO supports right?

If I were a NATO member, I would be very hesitant about picking sides in an American civil war. Best situation for the Europeans is to hunker down and wait and see how it all shakes out.

Bloody Europeans have an ocean to protect them, your friends up north would be a bit more concerned if the US devolved into Civil War pt.2

[Thermodolia]

If I were a NATO member, I would be very hesitant about picking sides in an American civil war. Best situation for the Europeans is to hunker down and wait and see how it all shakes out.

Bloody Europeans have an ocean to protect them, your friends up north would be a bit more concerned if the US devolved into Civil War pt.2

They’d be dragged into it

[Gravlen]

No. NATO would not join a civil war in the US.

They have an obligation to defend there fellow treaty signers. The actual Democratic winner of the election would be the one NATO supports right?

No. The treaty was established to settle international disputes, not domestic ones (art. 1). The NATO treaty won't be activated unless there's "an armed attack" against the US in that context (art. 5). As such, there is no obligation to intervene in domestic affairs - rather, there is an obligation to stay out of them.

[Major-Tom]

Prepare for a military coup yall. Trump is attempting to remain in office past January 20th. He’s announced that all agencies should prepare for his February budget

If there were some sort of coup, which is wildly unlikely because the GOP is losing lawsuit after lawsuit, it wouldn't come in the form of a military coup. Rather, it would likely be because the DOJ magically convinced every Republican state Judge, legislator etc etc to not certify the results for Joe Biden in states Biden won.

[RiderSyl]

Ok so lets say that Trump and the GOP are so god damm stupid that they some how coup on Jan 20th.

Wouldn't NATO just come in and support the Biden loyalists till they win?

No. NATO would not join a civil war in the US.

You're discounting the role that our 5,500 mile border with Canada would play in NATO's decision to join an American civil war

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They have an obligation to defend there fellow treaty signers. The actual Democratic winner of the election would be the one NATO supports right?

If I were a NATO member, I would be very hesitant about picking sides in an American civil war. Best situation for the Europeans is to hunker down and wait and see how it all shakes out.

At this point we're already deep in unknown territory. From Trump's declaration of his run to his attempts to cling to power today, norms and expectations have been shattered every day. No one knows what might happen anymore.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Clear intent.

“If Republicans don't challenge and change the US election system, there will never be another Republican president elected again.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

Welcome to today's episode of "The Republicans have stopped caring about democracy or even looking like they care about democracy"! Today, we have a Republican openly admitting that without changing the system so it's rigged in their favour, the Republicans will never win again!

Somebody tell Jeff the name of his show is way too long. The viewers will fall asleep by the end of it.

I don’t think this iteration ever cared. Really. But it’s interesting to see a rabid Graham confirm what we already knew.

[Zurkerx]

Prepare for a military coup yall. Trump is attempting to remain in office past January 20th. He’s announced that all agencies should prepare for his February budget

Linking source to that too of course: https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-polic ... -election/

Likely it won't matter given when the 20th comes, he won't be President though his refusal to leave White House grounds would likely result him being removed by the Secret Service- or Par Service, or whoever removes him, but I don't see the military intervening unless Trump has some allies that protect him.

[Thermodolia]

Prepare for a military coup yall. Trump is attempting to remain in office past January 20th. He’s announced that all agencies should prepare for his February budget

If there were some sort of coup, which is wildly unlikely because the GOP is losing lawsuit after lawsuit, it wouldn't come in the form of a military coup. Rather, it would likely be because the DOJ magically convinced every Republican state Judge, legislator etc etc to not certify the results for Joe Biden in states Biden won.

No im saying the military is going to overthrow Trump because he’s planning on staying in office long after he should. The peaceful transition of power is over

[The Giant Space Wyrm]

Peaceful Transition of Power is so... 4 years ago.

It's time we enacted WWE rules.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

If there were some sort of coup, which is wildly unlikely because the GOP is losing lawsuit after lawsuit, it wouldn't come in the form of a military coup. Rather, it would likely be because the DOJ magically convinced every Republican state Judge, legislator etc etc to not certify the results for Joe Biden in states Biden won.

No im saying the military is going to overthrow Trump because he’s planning on staying in office long after he should. The peaceful transition of power is over

So it’s a given come Inauguration Day we’ll see Trump thrown out the WH by military personnel?

[Cordel One]

Prepare for a military coup yall. Trump is attempting to remain in office past January 20th. He’s announced that all agencies should prepare for his February budget

I think the Secret Service is just gonna drag him out but the state will collapse someday

[Jedi Council]

No im saying the military is going to overthrow Trump because he’s planning on staying in office long after he should. The peaceful transition of power is over

So it’s a given come Inauguration Day we’ll see Trump thrown out the WH by military personnel?

Tanks rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue would be a sight to see

[Vassenor]

Peaceful Transition of Power is so... 4 years ago.

It's time we enacted WWE rules.

"It's Bernie Sanders with a steel chair!"

[Cordel One]

If there were some sort of coup, which is wildly unlikely because the GOP is losing lawsuit after lawsuit, it wouldn't come in the form of a military coup. Rather, it would likely be because the DOJ magically convinced every Republican state Judge, legislator etc etc to not certify the results for Joe Biden in states Biden won.

No im saying the military is going to overthrow Trump because he’s planning on staying in office long after he should. The peaceful transition of power is over

That's not really a coup though, is it? That's just Trump getting forced out after his term expires.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

So it’s a given come Inauguration Day we’ll see Trump thrown out the WH by military personnel?

Tanks rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue would be a sight to see

I’d make pop corn to watch MP throwing Trump, and anyone who resists like him, out the WH like rubbish.

[Esalia]

Welcome to today's episode of "The Republicans have stopped caring about democracy or even looking like they care about democracy"! Today, we have a Republican openly admitting that without changing the system so it's rigged in their favour, the Republicans will never win again!

Somebody tell Jeff the name of his show is way too long. The viewers will fall asleep by the end of it.

I don’t think this iteration ever cared. Really. But it’s interesting to see a rabid Graham confirm what we already knew.

I don't think they've really cared either. Just before, they'd try to hide it.

Now? There's literally no evidence of fraud at all and a bunch of Republicans are jumping on the "Biden stole the election" train, including some really high-ranking ones. I don't think you can get much more anti-democratic than rejecting fair election results on the basis of unsubstantiated bullshit.