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Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:24 pm

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I wouldn't be surprised if McConnell just refused to have any hearings on cabinet picks, leaving the Biden Admin crippled from the start of it's term.


I...don't even know the political ramifications of that. One side of me feels like the GOP would be slaughtered for trying to do that, but the rational side of me knows it would allow them to paint the Dems as "weak." Thus, allowing them to win big in 2022. *sighs*

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Id like to think they would be crushed for that but in this country I doubt it. People believe lie after lie. I wouldnt even put it past Republicans to refuse to even allow a budget vote causing a months long government shutdown.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:24 pm

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Republicans would never confirm them.

The republicans majority is only going to be 1. You only need one republican to vote for the nominees and the VP breaks the tie
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:25 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Republicans would never confirm them.

The republicans majority is only going to be 1. You only need one republican to vote for the nominees and the VP breaks the tie


are you that sure Warnock will win? McConnell could also prevent a vote like he did with Garland.
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:26 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Republicans would never confirm them.

The republicans majority is only going to be 1. You only need one republican to vote for the nominees and the VP breaks the tie


And that's assuming nothing changes in the runoff election.
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Postby Whitemore » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:26 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The republicans majority is only going to be 1. You only need one republican to vote for the nominees and the VP breaks the tie


are you that sure Warnock will win? McConnell could also prevent a vote like he did with Garland.


Warnock has a very good chance of winning, he already has a 8 point lead right now but combine that with the 6 other Democrats who ran for Senate he'd be over 51% of the vote.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:27 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The republicans majority is only going to be 1. You only need one republican to vote for the nominees and the VP breaks the tie


And that's assuming nothing changes in the runoff election.

Hopefully Democrats get both. A tied Senate would mean McConnell can't block everything.

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Postby Andsed » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Also it's a small thing but Biden's insistence on the need for a hard border to not be put up in Ireland is a great start to his foreign policy imo. I desperately hope his admin will try to continue dialogue with the DPRK as well because the era of sanctions and all that other shit has clearly failed.

I would have to agree here. That along with the talks of a student loan forgiveness plan and Bidens talk of putting together a Covid response team to create an actual Covid response does give me some hope for the beginning of his presidency. Its definitely already looking better than Trumps nonsense imo.
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Postby Forsher » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:29 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Republicans would never confirm them.

The republicans majority is only going to be 1. You only need one republican to vote for the nominees and the VP breaks the tie


What happens if a member of the Senate is nominated? Do they get to vote to approve their own nomination?
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:30 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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And that's assuming nothing changes in the runoff election.

Hopefully Democrats get both. A tied Senate would mean McConnell can't block everything.


I guess it comes down to whether Georgians think partisan power distribution or a functional federal government are more important.
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Postby Jedi Council » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:33 pm

Whitemore wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
are you that sure Warnock will win? McConnell could also prevent a vote like he did with Garland.


Warnock has a very good chance of winning, he already has a 8 point lead right now but combine that with the 6 other Democrats who ran for Senate he'd be over 51% of the vote.

Thats not true; 538 did the math, if every vote that went blue went to Warnock, he would have only had about 48%
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:34 pm

Whitemore wrote:
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are you that sure Warnock will win? McConnell could also prevent a vote like he did with Garland.


Warnock has a very good chance of winning, he already has a 8 point lead right now but combine that with the 6 other Democrats who ran for Senate he'd be over 51% of the vote.

Forgive me if I have zero faith in polls whatsoever anymore.

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Postby Whitemore » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:36 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
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Warnock has a very good chance of winning, he already has a 8 point lead right now but combine that with the 6 other Democrats who ran for Senate he'd be over 51% of the vote.

Thats not true; 538 did the math, if every vote that went blue went to Warnock, he would have only had about 48%


Forgive me for not being able to keep up with 538, I simply added up all of the averages each Democrat Candidate got on RCP and came to 51% which I still think is true. Could you give me the link to this article?
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Postby Whitemore » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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Warnock has a very good chance of winning, he already has a 8 point lead right now but combine that with the 6 other Democrats who ran for Senate he'd be over 51% of the vote.

Forgive me if I have zero faith in polls whatsoever anymore.


That's understandable, I believe State Polling is more accurate over National Polling.
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Postby Jedi Council » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:37 pm

Whitemore wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Thats not true; 538 did the math, if every vote that went blue went to Warnock, he would have only had about 48%


Forgive me for not being able to keep up with 538, I simply added up all of the averages each Democrat Candidate got on RCP and came to 51% which I still think is true. Could you give me the link to this article?

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:37 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XI8xNy ... e=youtu.be

Keith Olbermann lays out a great editorial for why Trump's election fraud claims will go absolutely nowhere.

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Postby Whitemore » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:37 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
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Forgive me for not being able to keep up with 538, I simply added up all of the averages each Democrat Candidate got on RCP and came to 51% which I still think is true. Could you give me the link to this article?

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Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:38 pm

So these 'investigations' that Barr is authorising, think anything will come of them?

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Postby Whitemore » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:38 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XI8xNyH5sQ&feature=youtu.be

Keith Olbermann lays out a great editorial for why Trump's election fraud claims will go absolutely nowhere.


Even if they did, the amount of votes Trump includes in each lawsuit still wouldn't change the outcome of the election.
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Postby Aclion » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:38 pm

San Lumen wrote:]
and Republicans will spend the next four years blocking everything claiming Biden's presidency is illegitimate.

I wish they would. You guys deserve a taste of your own medicine
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:39 pm

Aclion wrote:
San Lumen wrote:]
and Republicans will spend the next four years blocking everything claiming Biden's presidency is illegitimate.

I wish they would. You guys deserve a taste of your own medicine


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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:39 pm

Aclion wrote:
San Lumen wrote:]
and Republicans will spend the next four years blocking everything claiming Biden's presidency is illegitimate.

I wish they would. You guys deserve a taste of your own medicine


Still sore about McCain are we?
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Postby Forsher » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:39 pm

Aclion wrote:
San Lumen wrote:]
and Republicans will spend the next four years blocking everything claiming Biden's presidency is illegitimate.

I wish they would. You guys deserve a taste of your own medicine


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Postby Whitemore » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:40 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Aclion wrote:I wish they would. You guys deserve a taste of your own medicine


Still sore about McCain are we?


McCain is laughing in his grave right now at Trump I bet.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:40 pm

Whitemore wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XI8xNyH5sQ&feature=youtu.be

Keith Olbermann lays out a great editorial for why Trump's election fraud claims will go absolutely nowhere.


Even if they did, the amount of votes Trump includes in each lawsuit still wouldn't change the outcome of the election.

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Aclion wrote:
San Lumen wrote:]
and Republicans will spend the next four years blocking everything claiming Biden's presidency is illegitimate.

I wish they would. You guys deserve a taste of your own medicine


yeah lets have completely non functional government for four years. Just shut down the government until 2024.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:40 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:barr allows bullshit to continue

Can't wait to see this Benedict Arnold get kicked to the curb.


I'm still just a bit worryed about this. Should I be?

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