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Postby Ranoria » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:46 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ranoria wrote:No way they’ll take it. At that point if for some reason there was evidence (which we all know there isn’t) of election fraud, they would have to totally toss out any trust the public has in them.

Besides that, other than cases between the states, the Supreme Court doesn’t review evidence. That’s the purview of lower courts. If they had new evidence, scotus would remand to a lower court for further proceedings on the new evidence.

Cool. Even I think trump needs to concede at this point. We haven’t had any violence that I’m aware of from the right but that might not too far off with what was going on at the Michigan Secretary of State’s house. And I don’t think anybody wants that. That’s not totally on Donald if it happens, but he certainly has some responsibility due to fighting the election results.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:48 pm

Ranoria wrote:
Galloism wrote:Besides that, other than cases between the states, the Supreme Court doesn’t review evidence. That’s the purview of lower courts. If they had new evidence, scotus would remand to a lower court for further proceedings on the new evidence.

Cool. Even I think trump needs to concede at this point. We haven’t had any violence that I’m aware of from the right but that might not too far off with what was going on at the Michigan Secretary of State’s house. And I don’t think anybody wants that. That’s not totally on Donald if it happens, but he certainly has some responsibility due to fighting the election results.


GA State Sec said it: someone’s going to get hurt or killed if Trump continues to attack the process.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:48 pm



that case isn't presenting oral arguments, it's posturing.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:49 pm



Tell Cruz. It seems he doesn’t know.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:50 pm

Ranoria wrote:
Galloism wrote:Besides that, other than cases between the states, the Supreme Court doesn’t review evidence. That’s the purview of lower courts. If they had new evidence, scotus would remand to a lower court for further proceedings on the new evidence.

Cool. Even I think trump needs to concede at this point. We haven’t had any violence that I’m aware of from the right but that might not too far off with what was going on at the Michigan Secretary of State’s house. And I don’t think anybody wants that. That’s not totally on Donald if it happens, but he certainly has some responsibility due to fighting the election results.

There was. They just missed.
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Postby Ranoria » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:50 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Ranoria wrote:Cool. Even I think trump needs to concede at this point. We haven’t had any violence that I’m aware of from the right but that might not too far off with what was going on at the Michigan Secretary of State’s house. And I don’t think anybody wants that. That’s not totally on Donald if it happens, but he certainly has some responsibility due to fighting the election results.


GA State Sec said it: someone’s going to get hurt or killed if Trump continues to attack the process.

I’m optimistic that’s not the case but it’s certainly a possibility, and not an entirely unlikely one. We’ve had enough rioting this year, we don’t need any more.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:51 pm

Ranoria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
GA State Sec said it: someone’s going to get hurt or killed if Trump continues to attack the process.

I’m optimistic that’s not the case but it’s certainly a possibility, and not an entirely unlikely one. We’ve had enough rioting this year, we don’t need any more.


Sure, we don’t need any more crap but I wouldn’t be surprised if this rhetoric employed by Trump and his enablers ends up costing some people their lives.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:55 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Kowani wrote:
that case isn't presenting oral arguments, it's posturing.


Tell Cruz. It seems he doesn’t know.

There are lots of things Cruz doesn't know.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:57 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Tell Cruz. It seems he doesn’t know.

There are lots of things Cruz doesn't know.


Trust me, I think many of us know that very well already.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:05 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:People are mad that Biden isn’t picking enough minorities.


Well, it's more Democrats than anything. Regardless, retired Gen. Lloyd Austin is a good pick and one I was hoping he would make.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/07/politics ... ium=social

That said, he, like Mattis, would require a waiver of the National Security Act of 1947, which requires a seven-year waiting period before retired military personnel can assume the role of secretary of defense. Let's see if Senator Kirsten Gillibrand opposes this waiver.

Why would she oppose it?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:59 pm

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:28 pm

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... g-election

Trump personally asked Pa. GOP House Speaker for help changing election results. Trump called Speaker Bryan Cutler (R), urging him to intervene and take some action to "fix" state law that prevents lawmakers from intervening and replacing electors selected by the voters to cast the state's electoral votes. This is blatant election tampering.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/529165-trump-personally-asked-penn-gop-house-speaker-for-help-changing-election

Trump personally asked Pa. GOP House Speaker for help changing election results

Give it up man. She’s gone.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:31 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/529165-trump-personally-asked-penn-gop-house-speaker-for-help-changing-election

Trump personally asked Pa. GOP House Speaker for help changing election results

Give it up man. She’s gone.


Hes not going to to. His ego won't allow it. In one weeks time the electoral college votes and that will be end of it.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:34 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/529165-trump-personally-asked-penn-gop-house-speaker-for-help-changing-election

Trump personally asked Pa. GOP House Speaker for help changing election results. Trump called Speaker Bryan Cutler (R), urging him to intervene and take some action to "fix" state law that prevents lawmakers from intervening and replacing electors selected by the voters to cast the state's electoral votes. This is blatant election tampering.

This comes on the heel of Trump's allies in Arizona dismissing their own lawsuit.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:35 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Galloism wrote:Give it up man. She’s gone.


Hes not going to to. His ego won't allow it. In one weeks time the electoral college votes and that will be end of it.

No it isn’t.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:35 pm

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/529165-trump-personally-asked-penn-gop-house-speaker-for-help-changing-election

Trump personally asked Pa. GOP House Speaker for help changing election results. Trump called Speaker Bryan Cutler (R), urging him to intervene and take some action to "fix" state law that prevents lawmakers from intervening and replacing electors selected by the voters to cast the state's electoral votes. This is blatant election tampering.

This comes on the heel of Trump's allies in Arizona dismissing their own lawsuit.

how do you dismiss your own lawsuit?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:36 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kowani wrote:This comes on the heel of Trump's allies in Arizona dismissing their own lawsuit.

how do you dismiss your own lawsuit?

That just means they withdrew it.
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:40 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:


That gave me a good laugh.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:50 pm

And the latest Republican scapegoat is Georgia's Lt. Governor
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:51 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Hes not going to to. His ego won't allow it. In one weeks time the electoral college votes and that will be end of it.

No it isn’t.


Just make him pay for the lawsuits.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:51 pm


Does the Lt. Governor even have any power besides being next in line to being governor?
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Heh. It must drive Trump nuts to see his posts getting flagged.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:58 pm



I wonder if every statewide official in Georgia will face a primary challenge from a hardcore Trump supporter and if they lost he will tell his base not to vote for them.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:01 pm

Galloism wrote:

Does the Lt. Governor even have any power besides being next in line to being governor?

"The Lieutenant Governor's formal duties are limited by the Georgia State Constitution to being President of the Senate and the successor of the Governor whenever the governor dies, resigns or is removed from office via impeachment."

he can stand in senate meetings and bang a hammer

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Heh. It must drive Trump nuts to see his posts getting flagged.

oh, you betcha
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