2020 US General Election Thread XIII: Nocturne

[-Ra-]

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This is a claim that someone made, made by John Bolton of all people. It is hardly enough evidence to suggest that Trump actually approved of these policies. Not to mention the fact that the White House has been rigorous in browbeating China for what they're doing and imposed sanctions.

[Thermodolia]

Really? I’m surprised. I for sure thought you’d have fired your gun at them

sure, out numbered, out gunned and surrounded. Capital idea, Therm.

Hey you don’t get to Valhalla otherwise

[Kowani]

Citation added.

This is a claim that someone made, made by John Bolton of all people. It is hardly enough evidence to suggest that Trump actually approved of these policies. Not to mention the fact that the White House has been rigorous in browbeating China for what they're doing and imposed sanctions.

my sig is proven correct once again

[Esalia]

The hyper-capitalist PRC, a bastion of socialism indeed.

nOt ReAl CoMmUnIsM!!

I mean, it literally isn't.

I dunno about you, but I wouldn't call a country with the second-highest number of billionaires "communist". My experience with Communism might be limited, but I wouldn't call "extremely high production of wealth to rival even capitalist countries" communist. AlTeRnAtInG cApItAlS isn't much of a rebuttal.

Unless Communism is just capitalism with some added hammers and sickles, which brings the opposition to Communism into question.

All things considered, China abandoned Communism once Mao croaked (and then it saw one of the largest economic booms in world history -- thanks capitalism!). My fight isn't really socialism v. capitalism (though China still maintains many socialistic characteristics), it's more liberalism vs. authoritarianism. In the end, that's what it's all about anyway, since socialism is just authoritarianism with red paint.

I can agree that China's authoritarianism is a threat and it needs to be dealt with.

[Thermodolia]

LegalEagle explained why that means very very little

Basically it's a way of saying "also, we hate you" at the end.

If only they would also go ahead and ban them from filing that would be great

[Vassenor]

This is a claim that someone made, made by John Bolton of all people. It is hardly enough evidence to suggest that Trump actually approved of these policies. Not to mention the fact that the White House has been rigorous in browbeating China for what they're doing and imposed sanctions.

my sig is proven correct once again

Well yeah. Anything to preserve the fantasy that Trump hasn't spent the last four years kissing Xi's ass and fantasizing about being just like him.

[Odreria]

my sig is proven correct once again

Well yeah. Anything to preserve the fantasy that Trump hasn't spent the last four years kissing Xi's ass and fantasizing about being just like him.

tbf any decent president would simp for Xi Jinping

[Necroghastia]

Well yeah. Anything to preserve the fantasy that Trump hasn't spent the last four years kissing Xi's ass and fantasizing about being just like him.

tbf any decent president would simp for Xi Jinping

...Why?

[Vassenor]

Well yeah. Anything to preserve the fantasy that Trump hasn't spent the last four years kissing Xi's ass and fantasizing about being just like him.

tbf any decent president would simp for Xi Jinping

Wait when did praising China become a good thing after all?

[Esalia]

tbf any decent president would simp for Xi Jinping

Wait when did praising China become a good thing after all?

When it became incredibly profitable to suck up to China.

[Kowani]

tbf any decent president would simp for Xi Jinping

Wait when did praising China become a good thing after all?

he's a tankie, ignore him

[Vassenor]

Wait when did praising China become a good thing after all?

he's a tankie, ignore him

Still waiting for an explanation from them about how the Dems are anti-American anyway.

[Valrifell]

he's a tankie, ignore him

Still waiting for an explanation from them about how the Dems are anti-American anyway.

I'm going to ruin the illusion a little bit but a decent chunk of what Odreria posts isn't serious.

[Vassenor]

Still waiting for an explanation from them about how the Dems are anti-American anyway.

I'm going to ruin the illusion a little bit but a decent chunk of what Odreria posts isn't serious.

...get my fainting couch.

[Odreria]

he's a tankie, ignore him

Still waiting for an explanation from them about how the Dems are anti-American anyway.

Democratic party is anti american because it screeches at ordinary citizens that we are responsible for all systemic injustice and racism while denying us healthcare with the other hand. Also the party hates freedom and tries to take it away at every opportunity.

[Cannot think of a name]

sounds about right. I expect them to keep filing suits until Congress votes to certify.

More than likely. I’m assuming they’re suckers for humiliation or it’s just Trump’s narcissism needing attention. I think that once the EC votes next week we should all collectively starve Trump of attention. He no longer matters.

He has to keep the circus going to keep the money sponge working. That $400 million debt looming isn’t going to pay itself, and if he can bilk it out of the supporters he’s been bilking for the last five years, well that’s totally in character, isn’t it?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Although Donald Trump is widely hated by a broad swath of the population, I am at least thankful (and I think you should be too) that his tough on China rhetoric is going to become a mainstay of American politics. Communist China's rising political and economic influence poses an existential threat to democracy and individual liberty. The Chinese government and the businesses that operate for it are unscrupulous, thievish, and bent on achieving nothing short of world domination. Make no mistake, there is a cold war rising, and I'm glad that the Americans have finally awoken to this fact. People here in the UK really haven't.

Kissinger would be proud.

So “tough” on China that he withdrew the US further into geopolitical isolation and thereby handing China more power.

[Diarcesia]

Although Donald Trump is widely hated by a broad swath of the population, I am at least thankful (and I think you should be too) that his tough on China rhetoric is going to become a mainstay of American politics. Communist China's rising political and economic influence poses an existential threat to democracy and individual liberty. The Chinese government and the businesses that operate for it are unscrupulous, thievish, and bent on achieving nothing short of world domination. Make no mistake, there is a cold war rising, and I'm glad that the Americans have finally awoken to this fact. People here in the UK really haven't.

Kissinger would be proud.

So “tough” on China that he withdrew the US further into geopolitical isolation and thereby handing China more power.

You see, China made Trump do this.

[Thermodolia]

Biden will not appoint a woman to SECDEF like many thought he would. Instead he’s appointing Gen Lloyd Austin, who will be the first black man to lead the DOD.

Personally I would have picked William McRaven but Lloyd Austin really isn’t a bad pick at all

[San Lumen]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/07/politics ... index.html

Biden picks retired general Lloyd Austin to be Secretary of Defense. He was previously commander of US central command. If confirmed he would be the first Black man to hold the position.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

I would say Biden is just trying to play identity politics, and he probably is, but Austin is genuinely a great pick

[San Lumen]

I would say Biden is just trying to play identity politics, and he probably is, but Austin is genuinely a great pick

How is it identity politics? Austin seems like a fantastic pick.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

More than likely. I’m assuming they’re suckers for humiliation or it’s just Trump’s narcissism needing attention. I think that once the EC votes next week we should all collectively starve Trump of attention. He no longer matters.

He has to keep the circus going to keep the money sponge working. That $400 million debt looming isn’t going to pay itself, and if he can bilk it out of the supporters he’s been bilking for the last five years, well that’s totally in character, isn’t it?

Absolutely.

But it would be great if the courts actually followed the lawsuits’ dismissals “with prejudice” with some actual teeth. It’s vexatious.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

I would say Biden is just trying to play identity politics, and he probably is, but Austin is genuinely a great pick

How is it identity politics? Austin seems like a fantastic pick.

His skin color is probably part of the reason he was picked, but that’s fine in this case because he is a great pick

[Thermodolia]

I would say Biden is just trying to play identity politics, and he probably is, but Austin is genuinely a great pick

I’d rather Austin than Michele Flournoy.